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Below is a transcription and translation of your document. I'm not sure
about the names Rufa and Urcina; the other names are easy to read. Rufa is
probably short for Rufina, a common name, but I never heard the name Urcina.
I don't think it says Reina.

Bautismos de Jalpa en tiempo que no había padre.
En la parroquia de esta Villa en Once de Julio de mil ochocientos sesenta y
cuatro. Yo el Presbítero D. Vicente Y. Gonzalez, Cura encargado de esta
feligresía, Bautise Solemnemente a José Ma. de cuatro dias, nacido en la
Villita, hijo legítimo de Lucas González y Rufa Durán. (Abuelos) Paternos
Jose María Gonzalez, y Julia Casillas. (Abuelos) Maternos Teodoro Durán y
Urcina (?) Figueroa. Padrinos Claro Gonzalez, y Apolonia Durán; a quienes
adventí su obligación y parentesco espiritual, y lo firmé.

Baptisms from Jalpa during a time when there wasn't a priest.
In the parochial church of this town on 11 July 1864. I, Vicente Y.
Gonzalez, Priest in charge of this Parish, solemny baptised

I would say that the names are Claro and Urcina.

Here's what I see:

En la Parroquia de esta Villa en Once de Julio de mil ochocien-tos sesenta y cuatro
Yo el Presto D. Vicente Y. Gonzalez, cura encargo de esta feliga Bautise solemnemte a Jose Ma de cuatro dias nacido en la Villita, hijo lego de Lucas Gonzalez y Rufa Duran, paternos Jose Ma Gonzalez y Julia Ca-sillas maternos Teodoro Duran y Urcina Figueroa padrinos Claro Gonzalez y Apolonia Duran a quienes adverti__ obligacion parentesco espiritual y lo firme.

I hope this helps.

Rosalinda

what about Ojuelos Jalisco? I thought this was one we were going to fight for?

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Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Family Search Labs Updated

The Mexican section of Labs has been updated, now it includes the church records
of Hidalgo, Tamaulipas, and thank good ness some years are fixed for Aguascalientes,
also the entire registro Civil for Aguascalientes is also added! and the MExican Census of
1930 is at 62%.

Daniel

I know Im happy for the registro civil of Aguascalientes :)

Acerca de Pablo Romo, (padre de Manuela Romo Perez, esposo de Paula Perez, suegro de Salvador Romo):

Bautizado 20 enero 1828 en la Chona, hijo de Ignacio Romo Aranda y su esposa Ana Maria Senobia Martin del Campo y Perez; abuelos paternos de Joseph Salvador Romo de Vivar y Gallardo, y de Maria del Carmen Aranda y Moreno; abuelos maternos: Ignacio Martin del Campo y Antonia Perez, Bisabuelos paterno paterno:Cristobal Justo Romo de Vivar y Lomelin y Nicolasa de los Santos Gallardo y Sanchez de Porras;bisabuelos paterno materno: Joseph de Aranda y Luisa Moreno Guerra.

Miguel Beltran

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Name
Jose Maria Belen Games Tobon

Gender
Male

Christening date
28 Jan 1869

Christening place
TEPANCO DE LOPEZ, PUEBLA, MEXICO

Father name
Dolores Games

Mother name
Mara Quirina Tobon

Batch number
C61562-7

Record group
Mexico-VR

Film number
641129

Reference number
2:24SX7T2
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Name
Maria Pascuala Virginia Games Tobon

Gender
Female

Christening date
19 May 1871

Christening place
TEPANCO DE LOPEZ, PUEBLA, MEXICO

Father name
Dolores Games

Mother name
Quirina Tobon

Batch number
C61562-7

Record group
Mexico-VR

Film number
641129

Reference number
2:24SXR0M
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Name
Juan Gamez Tobón

Gender
Male

Christening date
27 Dec 1879

Christening place
San Juan Bautista, Ixcaquixtla, Puebla, Mexico

Birth place
San Juan, Ixcaquixtla, Puebla, Mexico

Father

Any word when Jalisco will be available.

Sergio Gutierrez

Send them to me id like to help
Daniel

> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: maria.cortes@trin.net
> Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 08:22:52 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Cortez Alvarado
>
> I need help from someone.
>
> I have two marriage records that I really need help translating. If someone could help me I would really appriciate it.
>
> Thanks
>
> Those are
>
>
> Pomposo Ortiz and Andres Tinajero marriage recods they are in my folder which is:
>
> "Cortes Alvarado--Ojuelso Jalisco, Matansas, Ocampo Gto. San Felipe"
>

With the IGI information you will be able to order films. There, in the FHC (Family History Center), they will give you a form to fill up and the time for it to arrive, then you will be able to view it in the same FHC, good luck.

Regards, Leticia Leon

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Enviado: lunes, 14 de junio, 2010 16:22:00
Asunto: [Nuestros Ranchos] Please help me understand IGI process

I am pretty unfamiliar with the IGI process. I have searched the films and have gotten a lot of information. My question is do I need to write to the churches to get copies of the original or if I go to a library with the IGI information will I be able to order films that have a copy of the original documents or will the library have more information available?

Thanks in advance for an explanation.

Hi Maria:

I have used "Legacy" for many years and found it very easy to use and very
practical. I 've heard people refer to it as the Cadillac of family trees
software. The best part of it is that it is FREE. Just go to Legacy.com
and download it from there. They have a more sophisticated version but
there is a charge for it.

When I first started doing my family search I used the Mormon's Church
software, but after using Legacy I never looked back and be using it ever
since.

Try it, I think you'll like it.

John Gonzalez
Wildomar, CA.

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Good morning, Maria,

There are several computer software programs on the market for collecting,
formatting, and generating reports pertaining to family history. The one
that I use is Family Tree Maker. I have used it for 3 years; and have been
satisfied. Also, I have an Ancestry.com subscription that interfaces with
FTM. I hope this helps you in your buying decision. Good luck.

Best wishes,

Paul Gomez
Rancho Cucamonga, CA

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Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Cortez Alvarado

Can anyone advice me of a good software to use to creat my family tree?

I´m using PAF (Personal ancestral file)

It´s good and free

Can get here:http://www.familysearch.org/eng/paf/

Miguel Beltran

Based on research, I notice western Guanajuato has a hugepopulation who are related to the altenos of Jalisco, rapidimmigration and intermarriage like families of and of the Paredesfamilies, Romero de Chavez, etc married in to Jalisco andAguascalientes even to Michoacan. Southern half of Zacatecas includingPinos ti the east,all of Aguascalientes North and southern easternJalisco and western Michoacan and western Guanajuato have sameimmigration patterns, altenos went to all these places and they soonbecame the majority by intermarrying the local "elite". Ive alwayswondered whether the altenos knew or planned the wholerelations stuff when they were marrying their kids off to the pointwhere people in 4 states can be so closely related. I have many linesgoing back to Guanajuato, specifically San Felipe.
Daniel

> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: longsjourney@yahoo.com
> Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 05:28:50 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] location of San Felipe in

This is San Miguel de Los Alba, San Miguelito, San Miguel de Huaracha lately or simply San Miguel, I live in Encarnacion de Diaz and know the place in person, which is no longer even a shadow of what once was.

http://mexico.pueblosamerica.com/i/san-miguel-168/

Miguel Beltran

I have some info on the Romo line which I have not yet posted. I have been away in mourning (I lost my brother) & just barely getting a chance to read these posts!

Daniel:

¿Puedes compartir por favor, quienes son los padres de Ramona Jimenez y de Juan Nepomuceno Romo?

Miguel Beltran

Recibe tu acta matrimonial que me pediste de tu Romo/Jimenez hace mucho tiempo.
Dice los padres de ambos casados.

Daniel

Just posted a pedigree tree of my 3x great abuelita Timotea PEDROZA ROMO. Please let me know if anyone has a connection or suspected connection. Thanks

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/filemanager/active?fid=2902

Wait? If you have the marriage record you know the names of Juan right? I found these Juan's. -Daniel Camino

JUAN NEPOMO. ROMO
Pedigree

Male

Event(s):

Birth:

Christening:

02 JUN 1815
La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico

Death:

Burial:

Messages:

Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Source Information:

Batch No.:
Dates:
Source Call No.:
Type:
Printout Call No.:
Type:

C602697
1814 - 1826
1155174
Film
NONE

IGI Individual Record
FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0

Mexico

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JUAN NEPOMUSENO ROMO ROMERO
Pedigree

Male

Event(s):

Birth:

Christening:

19 MAY 1840
La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico

Death:

Burial:

There used to be one....The address was
www.ancestros.com. I have tried to access it recently
with no luck. I now reach a webpage with a number of
links related to ancestry-but not specifically Mexican
genealogy. I'm guessing they either changed the link,
or discontinued it altogether.

-Esther

--- mormonboy74 wrote:

>
> Is there a Mexican Ancestry.com?

You can follow the filming on their official website blog:

http://www.cristiadafilm.com/blog/

Andy Garcia...General Enrique Gorostieta Velarde
Eva Longoria Parker...Gorostieta's wife
Oscar Isaac...Victoriano Ramirez "El Catorce"
Santiago Cabrera...Father Jose Reyes Vega
Catalina Sandino Moreno...Adriana
Eduardo Verastegui...Anacleto Gonzalez Flores
Adrian Alonso...Lalo

Check out the rest of the cast and crew at:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1566501/

There are several articles about this film. Here is another article:

http://www.milenio.com/node/462362

Esther Reynoso Valencia
facebook.com/esther.r.valencia

I took a quick look in Family Search, and there is the following:

Norberto de la Cerna married Maria Ramona Cerbantes, 25 Feb 1824 (not 1834!), San Jose, Calvillo, AGS Her parents are given as Jose Antonio Cerbantes and Maria Teodora Contreras. His parents are given as Gabriel de la Cerna and Catarina Frausto.

I found no children of Norberto de la Cerna up to 1855 baptized in Calvillo.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

Tania Could you give us a little bit of more information who was the mother of Daniel.. or wife of Jose D. Roman..? Lety R

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No se los padres de Josepha de Lozano pero de Sebastian si los
se. Ellos eran Alvarez de Luna, pero cuando Sebastian caso su
segunda vez se quito Alvarez, no se porque. Pues aqui esta:
Sebastian Alvarez de Luna, espanol hijo lexitimo de Marcos Alvarez
Tostado y MAria de Luna. Marcos Alvarez Tostado hijo de Juan
Alvarez Viera y Beatriz Ruiz Tostado. Juan hijo de Capt.
Lorenzo Alvarez Agustina de Viera. BEatriz hija de Lorenzo Ruiz
Tostado y Elena Martinez. Volver a MAria de Luna, hija de Antonio
de Luna y Antonia de Tejeda, vecinos de Aguascalientes, todos
espanoles.

Daniel MEndez de Camino

Hi there everyone ,

Is there anyone out there that knows if the last names Luna and de la Cruz were names that were made up soley in Mexico or did they also have those last names in Spain ?

Thanks,

Welester G. Alvarado

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