Message board

The bulletin board would be in lieu of this one.  If we wanted ad 
revenue at least, we would have to get a fair amount of traffic on 
the board and I don't think that the database alone would generate 
that.

Plus most bulletin board software allows more flexibility as far as 
what sort of notifications you get (i.e. limited to certain topics) 
and to view messages on the same basis, to show only unread messages, 
etc.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "aajay1073"  wrote:
> I don't think we would need another bulletin board...that is...if 
> there was another bulletin board I wouldn't be able to keep up with 
> both of them...
> 
> Angie
> 
> --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Arturo Ramos"  
> wrote:
> > I volunteer to set up the site with the interactive family tree 
> > software I have on my site currently and to include a bulletin 
> board 
> > system that we can use similar to this list.
> > 
> > We would need to either get small donations to

Message board

I don't think we would need another bulletin board...that is...if 
there was another bulletin board I wouldn't be able to keep up with 
both of them...

Angie

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Arturo Ramos"  
wrote:
> I volunteer to set up the site with the interactive family tree 
> software I have on my site currently and to include a bulletin 
board 
> system that we can use similar to this list.
> 
> We would need to either get small donations to cover a cost of 
about 
> $150 a year for hosting or try to make that money back through 
> advertising on the site... We can get Google ads on the site and as 
> long as people click through on the ads enough, we will probably be 
> able to make back the cost (depending on how many users there are 
and 
> how often people go on the site).
> 
> My cost estimate is for a hosting package that would give us 3GB of 
> storage.  People could upload files in addition to their GEDCOMs.  
> All of the family information would

Member's Profiles

I volunteer to set up the site with the interactive family tree 
software I have on my site currently and to include a bulletin board 
system that we can use similar to this list.

We would need to either get small donations to cover a cost of about 
$150 a year for hosting or try to make that money back through 
advertising on the site... We can get Google ads on the site and as 
long as people click through on the ads enough, we will probably be 
able to make back the cost (depending on how many users there are and 
how often people go on the site).

My cost estimate is for a hosting package that would give us 3GB of 
storage.  People could upload files in addition to their GEDCOMs.  
All of the family information would be searchable by name, place, 
etc. and could be searchable on a tree-specific basis or the entire 
database could be searched at once.  Of course these functions would 
only be available for registered members.  How many are there?

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com

Special request for data from Jalostotitlan

Hi Steven,
    I believe that I might have some info regarding
the second couple.  As you probably predicted, I have also been researching
Santo Toribio, Santa Ana, and wondered whether or when I would find a link being
that my Romos, and Gonzales (both of Santo Toribio's surnames) came from Santa
Ana?   
    Can I get more information regarding
Atanacio Munoz & Vicenta Ramirez.  I have many Munoz, Perez &
Franco.  Of those highlighted, who are their offspring?  Do you have
this information?  How do they link to Santo Toribio?
Irma



From: Pacorro73@...
[mailto:Pacorro73@...]
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 3:46
PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Special
request for data from Jalostotitlan

Hello Ranchos,
 
I am currently researching the ancestry of one of many alteño saints, Santo
Toribio Romo, who was born on 16 April 1900, in Santa Ana, Jalostotitlan. 
His parents were Patricio Romo and Juana Gonzalez, who were married in Jalos on
3 June 1885.
 
I have run

New member - Grano Family

Arturo--
 
May I invite myself to this party?  I too am descended from Rita Margarita Grano and Pedro Pablo Gonzalez.  Angie is my cousin as well.  Rita is my great-great-great-great-great-grandmother.  I actually relate to her a total of five different ways.  I'll send you my email address so we can correspond.  I have found another cousin, courtesy of the Ranchos group!  Thanks, primo Joseph!
 
Rosalinda
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 7/12/2005 8:49:46 AM
Subject: [ranchos] Re: New member - Grano Family

Angie:

We are most definitely related.  Joseph Cayetano Grano's daughter
Rita Margarita married Pedro Gonzalez.  I am their eighth generation
descendant via my father's paternal line.  I will definitely take a
look at your file.  I have Covarrubias and Jara interwoven throughout
my genealogy so I am sure there is a connection there as well.

Do you know how I would go about getting copies of the books you
mention?  We can

Berumes was: Help in Jerez Zacatecas

Kitty--
 
The most formal name is Berumen de Vera, eventually shortened to Berume, Berumes, and Berumen, all in reference to the same family.  I've also seen Verumes.  I have hit a brick wall with this couple, as I cannot find any marriage records for Bernardo and Maria Marsela.
 
Rosalinda
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 7/13/2005 4:00:02 PM
Subject: [ranchos] Help in Jerez Zacatecas

Linda, 
I couldn't help notice the name of Leonardo de la Torre Berumen from Jerez.  Rich and I are researching Berumes (s instead of n) from Jeres, Zac. 
 
Bernardo BERUMES and Maria Marsela ORTIS
One of the children Joseph Francisco Xavier BERUMES was born 18 Dec 1757 in Jeres, Zac.   
followed by two children  Joseph Melchor BERUMES de Vera b. 7 Jan 1765 and Lorenzo de la Trinidad BERUMES b. 5 Aug 1760 both born in Tepetongo, Zac.
Another son, our ancestor,  Santiago BERUMES m. Maria Josefa SALAZAR, but we don't have birthdate or birthplace for

Member's Profiles

20mb + 20mb + 30mb



yes yes yes, if about 5-10 people would take and open up a site like
yours then I could reopen the main files area for everyone to use as
they please. Actually we could completely clear out the genealogies and
put them all in the links area of the group if everyone just made a
website for themselves.



joseph







arturoramos2 wrote:



Joseph:

How much storage space are you using now with all of the Ranchos 
groups and briefcase combined?  How many members are there?  Is 
anybody storing anything more sophisticated than their GEDCOM data 
that they are then transmitting in various formats (Word, PDF, etc.)

Check out my family website (I will send you the link in an email) 
and see if you think this might be a possible alternative, where 
people could upload their GEDCOM files (minus living individuals) and 
we can simply restrict access completely to members.  In addition, we 
could use the bulletin board there in lieu of this group and people 
can sign up for

Special request for data from Jalostotitlan

 
Thanks to all who are able to help me out.  I wanted to make sure I was VERY specific about which records I needed.  What I should have done was provide the specific microfilm I was referring to. 
 
The records I need are only from Jalostotitlan, NOT in San Miguel el Alto.  I have also done research in both towns, but more in San Miguel el Alto, so I already have a lot of San Miguel el Alto.  The records I need are not in San Miguel el Alto, they are in Jalos. 
 
So, does anybody out there have this microfilm:
 
Jalostotitlan, Jalisco--Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1806-1815 -  FHL INTL Film [ 0279264 ]

 
This one has the key information for one of Santo Toribio Romo's ancestral lines.  Once I complete his pedigree, I'll research his life and integrate his genealogy into an interesting article.  And of course I'll make sure to share it on Ranchos. 
 
Sincerely,
Steven H.

 
-----Original Message-----
From: John Gonzalez 1gnzlz@...>
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 21

Special request for data from Jalostotitlan

The only information that I have is what I
have read in some of the Jalos Web sites.  You probably already have
it, I know it isn't much, but I hope it will help:

Padre Toribio had two brothers and a sister:
Roman, Francisco, and Maria

Francisco had daughter named Margarita Romo
Enriquez.

Padre Toribio has a niece, Doña Juanita
Romo.  She owns one of the stores  that caters to the visitors to the
shrine.

 

John Gonzalez

Wildomar, CA.

 

 



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--- In
href="mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com">ranchos@yahoogroups.com
,
href="mailto:Pacorro73@a">Pacorro73@a
... wrote:
> Hello
Ranchos,
> 
> I am currently researching the ancestry of one
of many alteño...

 

 

Member's Profiles

Arturo,
 
Go to Groups>Ranchos>Members>and find your name within the members and click on your call name or handle for the yahoo groups. It will open up your profiles page. In the upper tabs find edit profile>, click on edit profile and find each item such as name, gender, age, hobbies, cool links etc. It's up to each member as to how much or little information you want to provide.
 
I went as far as putting photos in yahoo photos to be viewed by the group and I also created a free home page on yahoo geocities.com. It was surprisingly easy to do, I didn't have _javascript_ and I downloaded that program and was able to create a very simple page.
 
Check it out and see what you think. Maybe someone in the group can have better ideas on creating the homepage.
 
Good Luck...........Alicia

arturoramos2 wrote:

Alicia:

I can't seem to figure out where the profiles section is.  Can you be
a little more explicit as to how to go about changing this?

Joseph:

How much storage space

Special request for data from Jalostotitlan

Hello Steven,

Unfortunately, I don't have any of the films you need.  My 
Jalostotitlan ancestry dates much farther back.  Good luck on your 
research and please share your findings with the Ranchos group.

Maria

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Pacorro73@a... wrote:
> Hello Ranchos,
>  
> I am currently researching the ancestry of one of many alteño 
saints, Santo Toribio Romo, who was born on 16 April 1900, in Santa 
Ana, Jalostotitlan.  His parents were Patricio Romo and Juana 
Gonzalez, who were married in Jalos on 3 June 1885.
>  
> I have run into a few dead ends in two of Santo Toribio's ancestral 
lines.  It's not that the records are not available, I just don't 
have them in my indefinite collection of films at my local family 
history center. 
>  
> My hope is that my Ranchos cousins from Los Altos can help me out.  
So this goes out to Irma Gomez Lucero, Maria E. Sanchez de Cortez, 
Felipe Hermosillo, John Gonzalez, Maria Elena Gutierrez-Uhlenburg, 
and new member, Connie

Member's Profiles

Alicia:

I can't seem to figure out where the profiles section is.  Can you be 
a little more explicit as to how to go about changing this?

Joseph:

How much storage space are you using now with all of the Ranchos 
groups and briefcase combined?  How many members are there?  Is 
anybody storing anything more sophisticated than their GEDCOM data 
that they are then transmitting in various formats (Word, PDF, etc.)

Check out my family website (I will send you the link in an email) 
and see if you think this might be a possible alternative, where 
people could upload their GEDCOM files (minus living individuals) and 
we can simply restrict access completely to members.  In addition, we 
could use the bulletin board there in lieu of this group and people 
can sign up for more specific areas of interest to receive email 
notification, i.e. by specific geography or topic of posting, etc.

We could probably host a site like this for $10-$20 a month if the 
database is not too big.



--- In

Fwd: Matrimonios, Religiosos, Civiles, Jerez, identidad e historia, de Jerez Zacatec

If unable to log on, please try the below website.


http://jerezzacatecas.galeon.com/archivo/paternidad/matrimonios.htm

--- Alberto Duarte  wrote:

> FYI:
> For those members researching family names from
> Jerez,
> Zacatecas, this website has marriage records going
> back to the early 1700s.
> 
> Alberto Duarte
> Santa Maria, California
> 
> Note: forwarded message attached.
> 
> 
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> protection around 
> http://mail.yahoo.com > Subject: Matrimonios,
Religiosos, Civiles, Jerez,
> identidad e historia, de Jerez Zacatec
> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:37:14 -0700
> From: "Duarte, Albert" 
> To: 
> 
>  
>  
> ________________________________
> 
> Alojamiento ofrecido por el Grupo HispaVista
> HispaVista
> http://www.hispavista.com> 
> Partidas  de Matrimonio, Año: 1731
>
http://jerezzacatecas.galeon.com/archivo/paternidad/1731

Fwd: Matrimonios, Religiosos, Civiles, Jerez, identidad e historia, de Jerez Zacatec

FYI:
For those members researching family names from Jerez,
Zacatecas, this website has marriage records going
back to the early 1700s.

Alberto Duarte
Santa Maria, California

Note: forwarded message attached.


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
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Alojamiento ofrecido por el Grupo HispaVista HispaVista
http://www.hispavista.com> 
Partidas  de Matrimonio, Año: 1731
http://jerezzacatecas.galeon.com/archivo/paternidad/1731-13751.htm> 	
Partidas  de Matrimonio, Año: 1732
http://jerezzacatecas.galeon.com/archivo/paternidad/1731-1375.htm> 	
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2nd DRAFT

Joseph:

I have fixed some spelling errors (mostly missing accents) and changed
 the wording somewhat to take out Anglicisms, etc. and use more
conventional Spanish idioms and vocabulary:

Gracias por su interés en hacerse miembro del grupo Ranchos
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos/).  El grupo Ranchos es un
pequeño pero dedicado grupo de investigadores serios.  Lo siguiente es
una descripción del grupo:
"Este grupo es para personas que activamente buscan sus raíces
mexicanas.  El objetivo de este grupo cibernético es para poner en
contacto genealogistas serios que tienen raíces en Jalisco, Zacatecas,
y Aguascalientes, y así facilitar las investigaciones genealógicas de
los miembros.  La intención, pero nunca la regla, es permanecer
enfocados en los ranchos de Jalisco, Zacatecas y Aguascalientes.
Nuestra definición de "rancho" es la siguiente: "un agrupamiento de
habitantes al nivel más pequeño, que corresponde a una comunidad o
vecindario".  Si usted es un investigador serio, o

Special request for data from Jalostotitlan

color=#0000ff size=2>Good advice.  I found some of my wayward relatives in
San Miguel...

color=#0000ff size=2>Irma





From: jjetmech01@...
[mailto:jjetmech01@...]
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 6:22
AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos]
Special request for data from Jalostotitlan


FAMILY="SANSSERIF" PTSIZE="10">Have you tried records for San Miguel el
Alto?

Info


face=Arial>We
had problems with our server.  It's fixed now (I think) and my email is the
one below again.


class=923092614-18072005>My apologies.


class=923092614-18072005>

class=923092614-18072005>

size=2>Irma





From: lrapido [mailto:]
Sent: Sunday,
July 17, 2005 12:41 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject:
[ranchos] Info


Message for Irma Gomez Lucero:

I sent you an Email to:
igomezlucero@... but it was returned.

Do you have a different Email
address where I can contact you?

John Gonzalez

1gnzlz@...



Member's Profiles

Alicia you have found the magic solution to my frustration. . .a way
for everyone to be in complete control. Either building your own
website with your genealogical data on it or putting it online at one
of the many locations where you can submit your data.



thanks,



joseph



ps: oh, and yes . . .it is a good idea to fill in your profile. Go and
see mine if you want an example of what is meant. You have have to take
a few minutes and fill in some data. {I guess the only problem is that
that profile goes with you to every group in the Yahoo system and for
their email as well}.





Alicia Carrillo wrote:

Joseph,
 
I have recently been perusing the members' profiles and noticed
that there are many people who have blank profiles. The profiles
section allows us to post some favorite links, a little about each of
us, one photograph and a favorite quote, it even entices you to create
a free web page via yahoo/geocities.com. Even I the clumsy non-techy
person was able to create a

Member's Profiles

Joseph,
 
I have recently been perusing the members' profiles and noticed that there are many people who have blank profiles. The profiles section allows us to post some favorite links, a little about each of us, one photograph and a favorite quote, it even entices you to create a free web page via yahoo/geocities.com. Even I the clumsy non-techy person was able to create a very simple page. I would encourage others to do the same and while I like the who's who I think we should also take the time to fill out the member profiles.
 
I am slowly but surely advancing in my research and would be willing to put a link to my homepage with some of my geneaological data once I submit it. I realize that it would be public and not private but I would not be putting any data for living family members.
 
 
Alicia
 


Joseph Puentes wrote:



Pacorro73@... wrote:


  I look forward to checking out any of your submissions to the files section of Ranchos, if Joseph allows it.

I do! In fact I

Joseph's Soapbox: was-Introduction





Pacorro73@... wrote:


  I look forward to checking out any of your submissions to the
files section of Ranchos, if Joseph allows it.

I do! In fact I allow every member (that's the requirement for members
only). . .I allow each and every member to go to the files and links
areas of the group and look into (thoroughly study is more like it) the
individual folders and links to personal webpages of each other in
search of more family connections.



I do. . .in fact I'm a firm believer that the words "I do" are too
tame. When my wife and I got married in 1995 the justice of the peace
said "do you Joseph take Figen to be your lawfully wedded wife?" my
reply was not "I do", but rather "Absolutely without a doubt."



Yes the files and links are open and will continue to be open to all
members of the group without restriction. The only restriction is in
the modification of the files that are in currently submitted. The
reason there is a restriction is because I am doing all

Special request for data from Jalostotitlan

Hello Ranchos,
 
I am currently researching the ancestry of one of many alteño saints, Santo Toribio Romo, who was born on 16 April 1900, in Santa Ana, Jalostotitlan.  His parents were Patricio Romo and Juana Gonzalez, who were married in Jalos on 3 June 1885.
 
I have run into a few dead ends in two of Santo Toribio's ancestral lines.  It's not that the records are not available, I just don't have them in my indefinite collection of films at my local family history center. 
 
My hope is that my Ranchos cousins from Los Altos can help me out.  So this goes out to Irma Gomez Lucero, Maria E. Sanchez de Cortez, Felipe Hermosillo, John Gonzalez, Maria Elena Gutierrez-Uhlenburg, and new member, Connie Dominguez.
 
Can anyone out there please search their microfilms and get the following records for me please.
 
My first request is for the baptism records of Atanacio Muñoz and Vicenta Ramirez.  I have not yet identified their parents, and there is no mention of their marriage record in the

Introduction

Hi Connie,
 
Welcome to Ranchos prima.  This is your cousin Steven F. Hernandez.  I trust your genealogical research is continuing at a healthy pace.  Have you been doing any work in Aguascalientes with our Muñoz de Nava, Ruiz de Esparza, Romo de Vivar, and other ancestors and descendant family?  I look forward to checking out any of your submissions to the files section of Ranchos, if Joseph allows it.  I'm sure your Ranchos cousins will appreciate it, such as Irma Gomez Lucero, Maria E. Sanchez de Cortez, Felipe Hermosillo, John Gonzalez, Maria Elena Gutierrez-Uhlenburg, and a few other alteños on Ranchos. We are all related to one another, and to you Connie.
 
As a side note, you should consider turning in something to the next SHHAR Genealogical Journal, Vol. 6.  I am currently in the process of editing the journal and accepting articles and submissions.  Maybe something on your research in Aguascalientes, Jalisco, or Zacatecas.  But, if you have any northern Mexico research, I

Gonzales, Gtz, Perez, Franco, etc.,

Hi Irma:

 

Possibly the reason you didn't find  a
connection to a  my "Cornejo"  might be becuase my grandmother wasn't
from Jalos, she was from San Juan de Los Lagos.

I just found that out last friday, talking to my
cousin who lives in Yucaipa.

 

John Gonzalez

Wildomar, CA



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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From:
href="mailto:gomezluceroi@...">Irma GomezLucero


Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:08
AM

Subject: RE: [ranchos] Gonzales, Gtz,
Perez, Franco, etc.,



color=#0000ff size=2>Hi John,

   


color=#0000ff size=2>Of the Jalos surnames you mentioned, the only surname I
don't have is Cornejo, but I know two Jalos families with that surname who
live in a nearby town in Northern Calif.  Two brothers of which one 
married a Gonzales and the other married a Gutierrez of
course.    I am distantly related to the wives. 
 :)