GENEALOGIAS DE NOCHISTLAN ANTIGUO REINO DE LA NUEVA GALICIA...esta disponible en Borderlands Bookstore, San Antonio, Texas. El sitio de web de la tienda es www.borderlandsbooks.com. El numero de telefono es 210-647-7535.
Hi Jose and those on this post...
Please note I've returned to the genealogy front. I still have Jose's book and am available for lookups should you need information.
Please note my new email address...after many more life changes ;-)....
Connie (Consuelo) Dominguez
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Does anyone have this book that would be willing to copy some sections, will pay copy costs?
I need sections 43, 67, and 75.
The book is longer available for sale.
Thanks
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LDS Church in Utah has a copy, last year I emailed them through their website and they sent me a link to the pages I requested(Duran Family). The link woks for a limited time so save a copy in PDF form to your computer.
Good Luck
Ruben
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Sorry, I just saw this posting. I have this book and I can scan and send you the pages you need if you don't already have them. You can send me your email address to allieavelar@gmail.com and I will scan and send them.
Alicia,
San Jose, Calif
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To rick rodriguez
I suppose that you want the book to trace your rodriguez de hijar line. My pending book has his information plus more on this line. I Also have more info on the maternal lines like the bracamonte line that is connected to it. The maternAl lines actually have many many interesting stories. I want to add as many of these interesting, supposedly true, stories. I am triple checking the accuracy of all the stories.
His book is a great book that I loved reading.
If you don't get a copy of this book don't worry since I will provide you a rough draft of my book next year
rick
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Just to update any others interested - I contacted Borderlands Bookstore
after reading the message from José. I received a response from
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Thanks to everyone for replying to my message. I've done some research on my
Rodriguez line and I wanted to verify my work with someone else's. If my
research is correct, I descend from the following:
Rodrigo Frias de Albornoz y Lovado
Hernando de Frías
Juan Rodriguez de Frías
Bernabe Rodriguez de Frías y Amaya
Nicolas Rodriguez de Frías y de Íñiguez
Bernabe Rodriguez de Frías y de Hijar
Nicolas Rodriguez de Frías y de Torres
Miguel Geronimo Rodriguez de Frías y de Valdivia
Secundino Nepomuceno Rodriguez Vazquez
Jose Jesus Rodriguez Alvarez
Jose de los Reyes Rodriguez Martin
Genaro Rodriguez Hernandez
Francisco Rodriguez Hernandez
Jose Marcos Rodriguez Valdivia (my grandfather)
(I apologize, I didn't get your name) please let me know if
you have any discrepancies in your notes. I have more info all the way back
to the late 1100's, don't know if this is on your future book, it most
likely is. Let me know if you're interested in including this and more info
that I have in your book, I
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Mi linea de Rodríguez es como sigue:
Jorge Luis Ramírez Gómez.
Mis padres.
Mis abuelos.
Francisco Domínguez Ibarra.
José Domínguez Rodríguez.
Luisa Rodríguez Ochoa.
José Hermenegildo Rodríguez Estrada.
José Rafael Rodríguez Orozco.
José Francisco Rodríguez Cornejo.
Fabián Rodríguez Valdivia.
Nicolás Rodríguez de Frías.
Bernabé Rodríguez de Frías.
Nicolás Rodríguez de Frías.
Bernabé Rodríguez de Frías.
Juan Rodríguez de Frías.
Hernando de Frías.
Rodrigo de Frías.
Saludos.
Jorge Luis Ramírez Gómez.
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La biblioteca que uso tiene mas de seis meses cerrado. ya tengo la fecha del matrimonio de jose rafael rodriguez con luisa estrada pero tuviera que manejar lejos para ver la acta.
me podrias dar por favor la informacion sobre los padres y abuelos de luisa estrada. yo desciendo de un hermano de luisa rodriguez ochoa, evaristo rodriguez ochoa, mi tatarabuelo. el era abuelo materno de mi abuela Lucila De la torre Rodriguez. Evaristo tuvo tres matrimonios. Una hermana de evaristo se caso con un pedro dominguez. Mi abuela tuvo medios hermanas que tuvieron contacto con los primos dominguez rodriguez y conocen una rama que se vino a estados unidos. hace dos anos que una tia me dio esta informacion. una semana despues ella murio. no se si estos son tus mismos dominguez rodriguez.
te lo agradezco mucho. Gracias
R.A.Ricci
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No se a quien va dirigido el mensaje pero yo tengo esa información, así que decidí enviárte lo que tengo. María Luisa Estrada es hija de José Rafael Estrada y María Dolores Gómez, y casó con José Rafael Rodríguez Orozco, hijo de José Francisco Rodríguez y Ana Basilia Orozco.
Saludos.
Jorge Luis Ramírez Gómez.
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Me puedes mandar los esposos por favor para comparar lo que yo tengo. Yo tengo a luisa con dos nombres y me gustaria aclarar si es la misma persona. Gracias ricardo
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Mi linea de Rodríguez es como sigue:
Jorge Luis Ramírez Gómez.
Mis padres.
Mis abuelos.
Francisco Domínguez Ibarra.
José Domínguez Rodríguez.
Luisa Rodríguez Ochoa.
José Hermenegildo Rodríguez Estrada.
José Rafael Rodríguez Orozco.
José Francisco Rodríguez Cornejo.
Fabián Rodríguez Valdivia.
Nicolás Rodríguez de Frías.
Bernabé Rodríguez de Frías.
Nicolás Rodríguez de Frías.
Bernabé Rodríguez de Frías.
Juan Rodríguez de Frías.
Hernando de Frías.
Rodrigo de Frías.
Saludos.
Jorge Luis Ramírez Gómez.
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Yo tengo a jose evaristo dominguez. Es jose Evaristo el mismo hombre que jose?
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Mi linea de Rodríguez es como sigue:
Jorge Luis Ramírez Gómez.
Mis padres.
Mis abuelos.
Francisco Domínguez Ibarra.
José Domínguez Rodríguez.
Luisa Rodríguez Ochoa.
José Hermenegildo Rodríguez Estrada.
José Rafael Rodríguez Orozco.
José Francisco Rodríguez Cornejo.
Fabián Rodríguez Valdivia.
Nicolás Rodríguez de Frías.
Bernabé Rodríguez de Frías.
Nicolás Rodríguez de Frías.
Bernabé Rodríguez de Frías.
Juan Rodríguez de Frías.
Hernando de Frías.
Rodrigo de Frías.
Saludos.
Jorge Luis Ramírez Gómez.
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Yo desciendo del hermano de luisa rodriguez ochoa.
Ricardo
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Yo tengo a jose evaristo dominguez. Es jose Evaristo el mismo hombre que jose?
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Mi linea de Rodríguez es como sigue:
Jorge Luis Ramírez Gómez.
Mis padres.
Mis abuelos.
Francisco Domínguez Ibarra.
José Domínguez Rodríguez.
Luisa Rodríguez Ochoa.
José Hermenegildo Rodríguez Estrada.
José Rafael Rodríguez Orozco.
José Francisco Rodríguez Cornejo.
Fabián Rodríguez Valdivia.
Nicolás Rodríguez de Frías.
Bernabé Rodríguez de Frías.
Nicolás Rodríguez de Frías.
Bernabé
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No es el mismo José, el José del que yo hablo no encuentro su acta de bautizmo que debió ser en 1877 aprox.. El José Evaristo Domínguez Rodríguez que mencionas es primo hermano de mi ancestro.
Saludos.
Jorge Luis Ramírez Gómez.
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Just to update any others interested - I contacted Borderlands Bookstore
after reading the message from José. I received a response from George
Farias that he carried the book about 10 years ago but it is out of print
and no longer available from him.
Guess we'll just have to keep looking.....
Susan Cadena
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Ricardo:
GENEALOGIAS DE NOCHISTLAN ANTIGUO REINO DE LA NUEVA GALICIA...esta
disponible en Borderlands Bookstore, San Antonio, Texas. El sitio de web de
la tienda es www.borderlandsbooks.com. El
numero de telefono es 210-647-7535.
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I wish I could help but my copy is in three pieces - from overuse. Spectacular resource. Try large libraries. Some may have it available as a reference source:
"Genealogia de Nochistlan, Antiguo Reino de la Nueva Galicia en el Siglo XVII segun sus Archivos Parroquiales."
Author is Jose Luis Vazquez y Rodriguez de Frias. This was privately printed in 2001, with more than 400 pages, and thousands of surnames in the index, and "data from Jalostitlan, Lagos de Moreno, Aguascalientes, Guadalajara, Teocaltiche, Tepatitlan, San Luis Potosi, Michoacan and more."
Genealogía de Nochistlán Antiguo Reino de la Nueva Galicia
en el Siglo XVII según sus Archivos Parroquiales by
José Luis Vázquez y Rodríguez de Frías
100 Chapters, 500 pages, 6500+ name Index, 40 trees, 50 signatures, baptisms, confirmations, marriages, wills, dispensations, statistics, deaths, padrinos, testigos, dates, half of book in paleography of the original documents, 5 years of research, a MUST for the genealogist who
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Hi Johnny/All,
I'm glad to see the great amounts of work Jose put into his book are truly appreciated. I worked with him for several years and knew him well...and he would have loved that his book was useful to so many.
I do have the book...and my part of the research I did for him. If you need a lookup (I know it's not the same as having the book), I would be happy to provide the info.
Please note my new email address.....I've been out of touch for a few years due to many life changes.
Thanks again!
Connie Dominguez
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I wish I could help but my copy is in three pieces - from overuse. Spectacular resource. Try large libraries. Some may have it available as a reference source:
"Genealogia de Nochistlan, Antiguo Reino de la Nueva Galicia en el Siglo XVII segun sus Archivos Parroquiales."
Author is Jose Luis Vazquez y Rodriguez de
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My old friend, Connie! How are you doing?
I've been working on two Calvillo families and two Jalos families. The only problem is that some Calvillo families back up into Tabasco where we don't have any marriage records before 1774. I know that many of the Tabasco (or Santa Maria Mecatabasco) families had origins in La Ciudad de Aguascalientes, but it's hard to prove the links without the marriages.
Any suggestions? Is it possible perhaps that marriages for Mecatabasco from 1747 to 1774 took place in Rincon de Ramos/San Jose de Gracia or in La Ciudad?
I agree that Jose's book is a masterpiece. I've assisted several people in tracing their Nochistlan and Aguascalientes roots and it is invaluable.
John Schmal
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Hello John
I too have many ancestors from Calvillo that seem to fall into that Villa del Refugio void as well...not just my Calvillo line but others like Loera and Villalobos. I have not ventured any further but think that maybe Tlatenango would be a place to look, only because the records go further back....and it's a wild guess anyway. I've looked at the surrounding areas and came up with nothing. I have looked at the marriage information documents for Rincon and Asientos and did not find any of my Mecatabasco people there....in fact I don't think I saw any at all.
I am hoping the Pilot site has the Jalisco and Zacatecas records soon....(wishful thinking), that way I can work on my ancestors that seem to have landed on earth from outer space.
By the way welcome back Connie....Dave told me he has spoken with you recently.
Rose
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Good to hear from you, Rose. Maybe we should show each other what we've got and see if we've traced some of the same lines?? I am almost positivie some of the Mecatabasco lines such as Villalobos, Loera and Velasco came from La Ciudad, but making the connection is tough, as you have seen too.? You may be right that Tlatenango may be the point of original from some, but I think more of them may have been in Cieneguilla or La Ciudad.
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When I get home, I will send you one of my files to show you what I've been tracing. Many of the lines go into the Ciudad, but you will see that many of them are dead-ends and I'd love to resolve those dead-ends, and maybe Connie can offer some of her expert advice on the topic too.
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John
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Hello John?
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I too have many ancestors from Calvillo that
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Good to hear from you, Rose. Maybe we should show each other what we've got and see if we've traced some of the same lines?? I am almost positivie some of the Mecatabasco lines such as Villalobos, Loera and Velasco came from La Ciudad, but making the connection is tough, as you have seen too.? You may be right that Tlatenango may be the point of original from some, but I think more of them may have been in Cieneguilla or La Ciudad.
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When I get home, I will send you one of my files to show you what I've been tracing. Many of the lines go into the Ciudad, but you will see that many of them are dead-ends and I'd love to resolve those dead-ends, and maybe Connie can offer some of her expert advice on the topic too.
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John
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Hello John?
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I too have many ancestors from Calvillo that
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Hi Rose and Johnny, want to compare lines and records?
I have many ancestors who were baptized in Tabasco, Zac.
Most were not even born there but came from other places.
My Velascos came from Calvillo and Aguascalientes, Ags.
My other lines came from Huanusco, Jalpa, Zac. Others in
Teocaltiche, Jalisco. During this time (the records start 1754?
This was the main parishi n the area.) Calvillo didnt have a church
until 1772 which is San Jose. Not sure about Tlatanegno, Juchipila
if they came to Tabasco during this time or even Plateado. There pretty
scattered around. I have altenos from Jalisco goingto Calvillo and
Mecatabasco to get baptized. Nt sure why? Have you checked Teocaltiche?
-Daniel
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Daniel
Yup, I have looked at Teocaltiche and Nochistlan. I have gone as far back as I can go from the earliest Mecatabasco/Villa del Refugio film as I can go. I have looked at every Aguascalientes film and done it 3-4 times in the past 18 years. There are many families in the early Calvillo records that came from Mecatabasco and Teocaltiche.....one family from Teocaltiche is the Saucedo's....I only know this because my research partner Dave Valdez has studied that area extensively. By the way Daniel I sent you an email if your interested in speaking with him. He's a good friend of Nicolas de Anda Sanchez.
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Hi Rose!
What can you tell me about the Saucedos of Calvillo who came from Teocaltiche?
Heres a quick note of my ancestors marriage
En 25 sep 1774 en Valle de Huejucar de Calvillo......Jose Maria de Jesus(gonzalez) de Ruvalcaba, espanol...originario de Teocaltiche en el ArroyoSeco...vecino en la Mesa Granda de esta feligresia hijo lexitimo dedon Nicolas (Gonzalez) de Ruvalcaba y Juana Maria de Saucedooriginarios de Teocaltiche....con Maria Barbara Ramirez, espanola.....hija lexitima de don Bernardo Ramirez y Anastasia de Medina....
I have found other Saucedo families in Mesa Grande, Calvillo and all state they have roots in Teocaltiche, so I figured they were allrelated, plus they were all espanol. One I remember off the top ofmy head is Juan Zacarias de Saucedo who married Margarita Ruiz.
Do you or Dave Valdez have a transcription of people or espanolesin the area of Mecatabasco or Calvillo?
Could you give me his email, im interested in communicating with him.
-Daniel Mendez de
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HOla Rose Hardy, yo estoy investigando la línea Salamanca Salcedo. Pero no encuentro información más atrás de 28 Julio 1764 que nace la primera hija
Maria Ysavel Salamanca Salsedo (que se tiene registrada) de Jph Manl De Salamanca y Bernarda Salsedo. ¡Si tiene más información que pudieranc compartir se los agradecería mucho!
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Wow I have some Saucedos who were espanol. In Calvillo and oten traveled to Tabasco.
Maybe related? -Daniel
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> My old friend, Connie! How are you doing?
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> I've been working on two Calvillo families and two Jalos families. The
> only problem is that some Calvillo families back up into Tabasco where we
> don't have any marriage records before 1774. I know that many of the
> Tabasco (or Santa Maria Mecatabasco) families had origins in La Ciudad de
> Aguascalientes, but
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You said many Tabasco families had origins in Aguascalientes? I know this this
is true for Calvillo, almost all of my calvillo lines came from Ciudad Aguascalientes.
Others came from Jalisco. Do you know why this sudden migration to Tabasco?
-Daniel
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