Bobadilla

Fernando Dias' parents are:
FERNANDO DIAS and ANTTTONIA MORILLO

Juana De Escobedo's parents are:
JN. DE CARDENAS and MICHAELA DE ESCOBEDO  

Perhaps she should have been listed as a Cardenas...

- Angie

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MA. LEONARDA DE BOBADILLA
  Female
Parents:
  Father:  ANTTNO. DE BOBADILLA
  Mother:  MA. DE AVILA
Marriages:
  Spouse:  FERNANDO DIAS
  Marriage:  20 JAN 1721   San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico
Messages:
 Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The 
source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage 
date.
Source Information: 
 Batch No.:  Dates:  Source Call No.:
 M604651  1720 - 1751  0443781

ANTTO. DE BOBADILLA  
  Male
Parents: 
  Father:  ANTTO. DE BOBADILLA
  Mother:  MA. DE AVILA
Marriages: 
  Spouse:  JUANA DE ESCOBEDO
  Marriage:  16 FEB 1726   San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico 
Messages: 
 Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The 
source records are usually arranged chronologically

Castaneda was: Raigosa/Raygoza

cool cool cool, I'm a Castaneda and would very very much be interested
in who Rozalia's parents are. Per chance might they be: Luis Castaneda
and Melchora Miramontes? If we find out this question it might mean
we're primos. Unfortunately I don't own this film and will have
consider ordering it.



thanks Angie,



joseph



aajay1073 wrote:

Victor,

I think I might have some information for you.

I found this marriage record:
JOSSEPH DIONICIO RAYGOZA
  Male
Marriages: 
  Spouse:  ROZALIA CASTANEDA
  Marriage:  05 MAR 1764   Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas, 
Mexico 
Messages: 
 Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The 
source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage 
date.  
Source Information: 
 Batch No.:  Dates:  Source Call No.:  Type:
 M607141  1754 - 1769  0443969   Film

But there also seems to be a Joseph Antonio Raigosa married to a 
Rosalia Castaneda.  I am not sure if this is the same couple or two 
different couples.

Bobadilla

Now we're cooking with gas. . .if you [sorry I got lost and forgot who
the original Poster was. . .was it Mickey?] get to the films before I do
I'd be interested in finding out who Fernando Dias' parents are. . .I'm
a Dias but I have a feeling that this Dias is not one of mine but who
said this kind of research is about feelings. Confirmation is king!
thanks Angie.


aajay1073 wrote:

MA. LEONARDA DE BOBADILLA
 Female
Parents:
 Father:  ANTTNO. DE BOBADILLA
 Mother:  MA. DE AVILA
Marriages:
 Spouse:  FERNANDO DIAS
 Marriage:  20 JAN 1721   San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico
Messages:

Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The
source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage
date.
Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.:

M604651  1720 - 1751  0443781

ANTTO. DE BOBADILLA
Male
Parents:
Father: ANTTO. DE BOBADILLA

 Mother:  MA. DE AVILA

Marriages:
Spouse: JUANA DE ESCOBEDO
Marriage: 16 FEB 1726 San Luis

Raigosa/Raygoza

Angie,

Thank you very much for your input.

I do have a Maria Alvina Raygoza as my 4th great grandmother.  My records indicate that she was the daughter of Josseph Raygoza and Rozalia Castaneda. But now I just have two of her siblings: Maria Antonia and José Pablo.

After reviewing each record in the information you sent me I'll let you know my conclusions.

Thanks again!

Victor

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "aajay1073"  wrote:
> 
> Victor,
> 
> I think I might have some information for you.
> 
> I found this marriage record:
> JOSSEPH DIONICIO RAYGOZA





April 15, 2005

Mickey,

All are batch numbers.  The names are exactly as they appear so you shouldn't have any problems locating them.

Hope this is the one you're looking for!

Victor.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, MMG8938@a... wrote:
> Victor:
> 
> Is J602664 the microfilm number?  Or Batch?
> 
> I have been looking for this name fro many years.....I trip to Monclova this 
> weekend was to find something to help me jump to Jalisco.  I do know he was 
> born in Guadalajara...and that is all...I have no second surname....so...many 
> this is it...
> 
> Also M603184....film or batch?  I guess I will check for both.
> 
> Thank you, and thank you for this group...the only one that has been a help 
> to me.  
> 
> Mickey




Bobadilla

Here is some other records you might be interested in, siblings of 
Pablo:

NICOLAS DE BOBADILLA
  Male
Parents:
  Father:  ANTTNO. DE BOBADILLA
  Mother:  MA. DE AVILA
Marriages: 
  Spouse:  GETRUDIS LOPES
  Marriage:  26 JUN 1720   San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico 
Messages: 
 Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The 
source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage 
date.
Source Information: 
 Batch No.:  Dates:  Source Call No.:
 M604651  1720 - 1751  0443781  

MA. LEONARDA DE BOBADILLA
  Female
Parents:
  Father:  ANTTNO. DE BOBADILLA
  Mother:  MA. DE AVILA
Marriages:
  Spouse:  FERNANDO DIAS
  Marriage:  20 JAN 1721   San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico
Messages:
 Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The 
source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage 
date.
Source Information: 
 Batch No.:  Dates:  Source Call No.:
 M604651  1720 - 1751  0443781

ANTTO. DE BOBADILLA  
  Male
Parents:

Raigosa/Raygoza

Victor,

I think I might have some information for you.

I found this marriage record:
JOSSEPH DIONICIO RAYGOZA
  Male
Marriages: 
  Spouse:  ROZALIA CASTANEDA
  Marriage:  05 MAR 1764   Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas, 
Mexico 
Messages: 
 Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The 
source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage 
date.  
Source Information: 
 Batch No.:  Dates:  Source Call No.:  Type:
 M607141  1754 - 1769  0443969   Film

But there also seems to be a Joseph Antonio Raigosa married to a 
Rosalia Castaneda.  I am not sure if this is the same couple or two 
different couples.  Here is a list of children:

MARIA ANTONIA RAYGOZA CASTANEDA
Gender: Female Christening: 30 JAN 1765 Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, 
Zacatecas, Mexico
Marriage: 24 Oct 1781 Totatiche, Jalisco, Mexico

MARIA ALVINA RAYGOZA CASTANEDA
Gender: Female Christening: 27 DEC 1766 Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, 
Zacatecas, Mexico

JOSSEPH PABLO RAYGOZA

Coyote

I have a copy of a microfilmed birth record of one
of my ancestresses in Jerez, Zacatecas, where she is listed as a mestiza. 
In Mitra Sacrada, by Luz Montejano Hilton, there's a marriage/consanguinity
record of my ancestress' parents and their ancestors where they are clearly
noted as espagnol.  Lastly, her son's birth record lists him as
espanol.  I think whichever priest wrote the record was sleeping on
the job.:)  Marge:) 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 10:40
AM
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Coyote

Hello:

In reference to being, Español,
mulato/a, coyote, etc.  I have an ancestor who is in different documents
all of the above....go figure that one out!  This was in
Coahuila!!

Mickey


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New file uploaded to ranchos

A little bit of history....
These two states are not only next to each other,
Aguascalientes was once part of Zacatecas! 
Approximately in 1845, the President, or dictator, of
Mexico, Santa Ana, punished Zacatecas for being to
independent by taking Aguascalientes away from them.  

There was a liberal movement in Zacatecas against
Santa Ana led by Francisco Garcia Salinas, an ancestor
from Jerez, that antagonized Santa Ana. So he punished
them by taking away Aguascalientes from them and
making it a state. 

Poor Mexico, this was just one of the many disasters
that would happen to Mexico and its people for the
next 160 years.

Alberto Duarte Prieto.
--- MGM8938@... wrote:

> Dear Angie:
> 
> Whoever you are...wow...wow..wow!!!
> 
> Thank you so much.  Short note, I accidently found
> all these ancestors in 
> Salt Lake City.  When I put in the state I put Aguas
> instead of Zac...which is 
> what I was always told that the Alvares came
> from....well...as we know Zac and 
> Aguas are

Coyote

Hello:



In reference to being, Español, mulato/a, coyote, etc.  I have an ancestor who is in different documents all of the above....go figure that one out!  This was in Coahuila!!



Mickey

April 15, 2005

Victor:



Is J602664 the microfilm number?  Or Batch?



I have been looking for this name fro many years.....I trip to Monclova this weekend was to find something to help me jump to Jalisco.  I do know he was born in Guadalajara...and that is all...I have no second surname....so...many this is it...



Also M603184....film or batch?  I guess I will check for both.



Thank you, and thank you for this group...the only one that has been a help to me. 



Mickey

New file uploaded to ranchos

Dear Angie:



Whoever you are...wow...wow..wow!!!



Thank you so much.  Short note, I accidently found all these ancestors in Salt Lake City.  When I put in the state I put Aguas instead of Zac...which is what I was always told that the Alvares came from....well...as we know Zac and Aguas are close....on the map...this is how I found so many generations.....very good.



I am so excited......



Mickey

Fwd: Somos Primos February 2005 lq

In a message dated 2/1/2005 10:54:02 PM Pacific Standard Time, MIMILOZANO writes:

SOMOS PRIMOS     February 2005
http://www.somosprimos.com/sp2005/spfeb05/spfeb05.htm

Hi all . . 

I know you will all be touched by the beautiful illustration created by Eddie Martinez in support of the 2005 Hispanic American Series at the National Archives in D.C.,
Latino Blood, American Heart.  We are trying to find funds for publishing posters for distribution to schools and libraries.  If you have any suggestions, please email  me, or call 714-894-8161.

As usual there is a great variety of articles.  One of my favorite in this issue is under Texas, called Head of the Class.  It was first published in the L.A. Times in January 2002. I saved it because I just loved the story. It made me proud.  Head of the Class is about then 24-year old Victor Cornejo who with knowledge of his culture and marketing intuitiveness revived the El Paso Stetson hats company in El Paso. (Texas)

Some other articles touching

New files uploaded to ranchos

Hello All,

This is to notify you of a couple of files that I just uploaded to
the Files Section.

Surnames: Villagrana, Martel, Pinedo, Colunga, Del Real, Serrano,
Arana, Rosales, Marquez, Lopez, Sandoval, Sanches Castellanos,
Hurtado, Morillo, Perez, Tovar, Raygoza, Balbuena, Alvarado ...

Places: Monte Escobedo, Villa Guerrero, Totatiche, Tlaltenango,
Colotlán, El Terrerito, El Salitre, El Salto...

Your comments (and help) are most welcome!

Victor






April 15, 2005

Hello Mickey,

Just in case you have missed this IGI record related to your Ballesteros search:

NAME				LAST NAME	BATCH
JOSE CALLETANO DE JESUS 	VALLESTEROS	J602664 

The other two are hard to miss, but here they are anyway.
CAYETANO 			BALLESTEROS	M603184 
CAYETANO 			BALLESTEROS	M602558 

Victor

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, MMG8938@a... wrote:
> Joseph:
> 
> Does the info that I sent suffice?  Do you need more?
> Am I a member?
> 
> Mickey





New file uploaded to ranchos

Mickey,

Your Bobadilla names sounded familar so I did a quick search and 
found Pablo Senior's marriage to Juana Carlos:

PABLO ANTO. DE BOBADILLA
Male
Parents: 
  Father:  ANTO. DE BOBADILLA
  Mother:  MARIA DE ABILA
Marriages: 
  Spouse:  JUANA CARLOS
  Marriage:  16 FEB 1722   San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico
Parents: 
  Father:  SALVADOR CARLOS 
Messages: 
 Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The 
source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage 
date.
Source Information: 
 Batch No.:  Dates:  Source Call No.:  Type:
 M604651  1720 - 1751  0443781   Film

Here is a list of possible children to Pablo and Juana Carlos:
MA. JOSEFA BOBADILLA CARLOS
Gender: Female Christening: 09 JAN 1724 San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, 
Mexico 

MA. MEREGILDA BOBADILLA CARLOS
Gender: Female Christening: 20 NOV 1730 San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, 
Mexico

ATHOMAS DE AQUINO COBADILLA CARLOS
Gender: Male Christening: 22 MAR 1734 Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman,

New file uploaded to ranchos


Hello,

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Regards,

makas_nc 
 







April 15, 2005

You were a member from the day you started getting messages that had
the [ranchos] in the subject line.



I will use that as your genealogy if that is what you want me to do.
I'm not going to say this is enough or not enough you all decide that.
If you look in the "files" area of the group you will see the format
and "amount" of genealogy that most of the members have submitted. I'll
submit what you have as is. You add to it when you decide the time is
right.



joseph





MMG8938@... wrote:


face="arial,helvetica">
face="Arial" lang="0">Joseph:



Does the info that I sent suffice?  Do you need more?

Am I a member?



Mickey

Looking for book "Una seccion de los Alba de los Altos de Jalis...

In a message dated 1/29/2005 12:18:56 PM Pacific Standard Time, alva_ken@... writes:

I'm looking for a book from Miguel Alba titled "Una seccion de los
Alba de los Altos de Jalisco" it was supposed to have been published
in Mexico,D.F. in 1981. If anyone has any suggestions how I might
find it, I would appreciate it.

I think I have heard of that book.  Or then again, I may have not.  Sounds rather interesting.  I'll look into it.



My paternal grandparents are from Encarnacion de Diaz,Jalisco. Some
of the surnames involved are:
Alba,Gonzalez,Villasenor,Verdin,Romo,Moreno,Lomelin,Ortega,Guerra,Mart
in,Estrada,Bocanegra,Sotomayor,Arenas,Retamosa.

These names sound like very typical Aguascalientes and northern Los Altos.  These names are very prevalent in Aguascalientes, Teocaltiche, Encarnacion, Lagos de Moreno, Nochistlan (somewhat), and Ojuelos and Pinos to a lesser extent.  I have Alba, Romo, Moreno, Lomelin, Martin (Martin del Campo), Estrada, and Retamosa (which was originally Macias

Allow me to introduce myself...

Hi Marge,

As you may have noticed in my introduction post, I also have ancestors in Zacatecas, namely in Monte Escobedo and Rancho el Limón.  I'll soon have a file ready for uploading.  When I do I'll let you know so you can browse thru it.

Thanks!

Victor

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "marge vallazza"  wrote:
> Victor, I have Morillo and Tovar ancestors and family connections from Zacatecas.  Marge V:)
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Rosalinda M. Ruiz 
>   To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 6:14 PM
>   Subject: RE: [ranchos] Allow me to introduce myself...
> 
> 
>   Hi Victor!
> 
>   Welcome to the ranchos group.  I just wanted to mention that I have families from Totatiche and the surrounding areas.  The last names are Sandoval, Urena, Haro, Del Real, Gonzalez, Rojas, Covarrubias/Cobarrubias, Diaz Romero, Rodriguez, and many, many others.   Do you have a file with your family trees yet?  We may have a connection.  I'm

Allow me to introduce myself...

Hi Rosalinda,

Thanks for the welcoming message; I really appreciate it.  

I'm glad to know that you also have families from Totatiche and the surrounding towns.  It is very likely that we may have an ancestor in common, even if it isn't in the immediate generations that preceded us.  To start with, in my genealogical findings in the IGI from the parish records I already have some of the surnames that you list: for example, Sandoval and Del Real, but I'm sure there may still others that I don't know.

I'm currently in the process of transcribing a list of ancestors from my maternal great grandparents, which are the ones from our area of interest.  I just came back from out of town as I was busy attending some work, that's why I haven't done it.  I'll let you know soon when I upload my files.

Kind Regards

Victor

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Rosalinda M. Ruiz"  wrote:
> Hi Victor!
> 
> Welcome to the ranchos group.  I just wanted to mention that I have families

FYI: Misc Colotlan Hacienda Info

Gloria,

In reference to the information and question below regarding the Felguerez and Colotlan, I 
make a few comments. One, you can obtain an idea of the land owned by the Felguerez 
family by reviewing the article that I put in the photo section and labeled Valparaiso. 
Paragraph three of Cerro de Gallegos.jpg gives you an estimate of the size of the land 
ownership. In the 1800's ownership of land generally meant ownership of very large tracts 
of land. Secondly, the names of some of the ranchos owned by Felguerez family in 
Valparaiso (I think) were: El Astillero, El Tejujan, Las Cruzes. They also owned a silver 
mine, Santa Elena. In Colotlan, they owned La Trinidad and the silver mine called Bolanos. 
Thirdly, these properties were all lost in the Mexican Revolution to my knowledge. 
Fourthly, one of the Felguerez returned to Valparaiso in the 1920's, only to be murdered. 
Lastly, one of the great artists/painter/sculptors of Mexico today is from Valparaiso and 
part of the

Los Alba de los Altos de Jalisco

Ken,
 
I agree with you, this group provides much valuable information and very rich dialogue. I believe that many in this group are true geneaologists and historians.
 
But by far, our leader, Joseph Puentes has the greatest influence on this group. Joseph keeps our feet to the fire and doesn't lose sight of this groups mission, to reach back into our ancestry, to share verified information with other group members and to be a source of knowledge, inspiration and pride in whatever, wherever and whoever we descend from.
 
Thanks Joseph and all the other Ranchos group members who contribute so much to this group. I won't mention any other names because so many of you have so much to offer whether it be DNA, LDS, regional, historical, language, culinary, music, geography, legends, cultural, religion, tradition and so on. We are lucky to belong to such a rich group of Mexico/Americanos. Que viva la Raza!
 
Alicia
 
 
Joseph Puentes wrote:

where are you Ken? Are you anywhere