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Estimado Armando:

Nunca he dudado que Salvador era hijo de Catarina Macías Valadés. Es verdad no sé porque menciona la madre en la confirmación de 1648 como Juana Valadés pero seguro es otro Salvador quizás un pariente.

Como mencionó don Javier que dijo el hijo. Todas las ocasiones y fuentes numerosos lo compruebe.

Estas familias Macías Valadés y Villalobos trae mucho interés a cuanto su genealogía y con quienes se víncularon. Mi libro ya viene y mi plan es traer los registros del siglo XVII a la luz para todos disfrutarlo en sus estudios.

Daniel Méndez Camino

I agree with Francisco Raigosa and then a blank Miramontes, then Diego de Miramontes, but not the Francisco Poier. I think the "g" from Iglesia is coming down through the last letter making it only look like an "r" and I am not sure it is a "p" at the beginning. It would be nice to see how the scribe wrote his capital "P"s. Also, I am not sure of the "i" as the dot may be just part of the abbreviation symbol above it. It is definitely an abbreviated name, possibly he has two first names. Could it be "An" and the loop from the "n" is running backward into the "A", but then I cannot tell what the last two are possible an "e" for the second to the last. Any other guesses, Ane? This would be similar to the "An" in Ana Diaz, only the scribe was squishing things in at the end of the line of writing, so he was heavier on the pen.

mmmm, q interesante, asi q no era de sayula sino español.....

por las fechas cuadra, dice q llego a zapotlan por ahi de 1784 y se caso 5
años despues....

o sea q si fuera este tendria 19 cuando llego a zapotlan y 24 cuando se
caso... si tiene logica

Mil gracias Lety, gusto en saludarte de nuevo

El 15/04/2011 12:44, leticia reynoso escribió:

> igual y son homónimos pero por las fechas yo vería el acta donde aparecen
> los muñoz Guereno que mandé antes .. saludos Paty Lety R

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> About this collection

> Name:

> Pedro Antonio Vergara Sanchez

> Gender:

> Male

> Baptism/Christening Date:

> 10 Mar 1765

> Baptism/Christening Place:

> NUESTRA SENORA DE LA CONCEPCION,ROBLEDO,ALBACETE,SPAIN

> Birth Date:

> 22 Feb 1765

> Birthplace:

> Death Date:

> Name Note:

> Race:

> Father's Name:

> Juan Vergara

> Father's Birthplace:

>

Antonio Vergara
Mexico Marriages, 1570-1950

birth:

christening:

baptism:

death:

burial:

residence:

parents:

spouse:
Catarina Sanchez

child:
Maria Francisca Vergara

marriage:

record title:
Mexico Marriages, 1570-1950

groom's name:
Nicolas Sanchez

bride's name:
Maria Francisca Vergara

marriage date:
17 Apr 1786

marriage place:
Teocuitatlán De Corona, Jalisco, Mexico

bride's father's name:
Antonio Vergara

bride's mother's name:
Catarina Sanchez

indexing project (batch) number:
M60389-7

system origin:
Mexico-EASy

source film number:
283027

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About this collection

Name:
Juan Antonio Vergara Sanchez

Gender:
Male

Baptism/Christening Date:
16 Oct 1768

Baptism/Christening Place:
NUESTRA SENORA DE LA CONCEPCION,ROBLEDO,ALBACETE,SPAIN

Birth Date:
22 Sep 1768

Birthplace:

Death Date:

Name Note:

Race:

Father's Name:
Juan Vergara

Father's Birthplace:

Father's Age:

Mother's Name:
Cathalina

Well since the grandparents aren't usually listed in the baptism records
before 1800 I'm not sure this will help but maybe the padrinos will
offer a clue. but the marriage record should definitely (not 100% sure)
offer some help:

XBAL. DE ABALOS Pedigree
Spouse: JUSTA SEGUNDA DELGADO
08 JAN 1771 San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico
M604652 1752 - 1790 0443782

and related to this you might find more info on this film if an Marriage
Investigation was conducted: Información matrimonial 1758-1778 - FHL
INTL Film [ 443711 ]

===================================

ANNA JOSEFA LONGINA ABALOS DELGADO Pedigree
23 MAR 1786 San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico
Father: CHRISTOBAL DE ABALOS Family
Mother: JUSTA SEGUNDA DELGADO
C602864 1768 - 1790 0443674

=====================================

JOSE FLORENTINO ABALOS DELGADO Pedigree
24 OCT 1790 San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico
Father

have a look at the files area for misc information in the reference
sections. There is a few photocopies specific to Jalisco, Zacatecas y/o
Aguascalientes padrones from Lyman Platt's excellent book:

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/15262

joseph

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Joseph Puentes
NoMeat@h2opodcast.com
http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html (Vegan Environmental Solutions Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.com (Environmental Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)

zacatecano020@hotmail.com wrote:
> When I was scrolling through archives at the LDS History Center years
> ago, I came across a Census of ever rancho in our pueblo of Jalisco
> during the year 1810. It listed all the names of every person living
> in each rancho. I made copies, but now I don't have the

Are you referring to Xalisco, Nayarit? If so, I have the 1689 census/padron.

Sergio Gutierrez

When you do come across it, perhaps you could add it to our reference
files? It sounds like a valuable resource.

Raquel Ruiz
Massachusetts

They are called Padron. Generated by the Parish.

Sergio Gutierrez

Wow Maureen,

I looks like we're after the same families. We must come from the same side of the tracks.

Estimada Lety:

Encontré algunos hijos de Lorenzo Rojas y Dolores Ramírez en family search.

Maria Juana b. 26 May 1885 Sagrario, Zacateceas

José Cleofas b. 16 Oct 1882 Sagrario, Zacatecas

Adelaida b. 07 Jan 1876 San Sebastián, San Luis Potosí, SLP

Maximiana de Jesús b. 13 Jun 1874 San Miguelito, San Luis Potosí, SLP, México

Pedro b. 29 Apr 1889 Sagrario, Zacatecas

Los de San Luis Potosí todavía no estoy muy seguro pero si encontré un registro de matrimonio.

11 May 1871 en San Miguelito, San Luis Potosí, SLP
Film: 709866

Lo que tendías que hacer es ordenar ese registro y ver los bautismos de los hijos y compruebe si los abuelos (padres) son los mismos. Es la única manera de comprobar si esta familia era de San Luis Potosí, no es imposible ya que está cerca de Zacatecas.

A cuanto lo de Ávalos Aguilar:

Encontré dos bautismos tendrías que revisar los originales ojalá tendrá los nombres de los abuelos.

Felipa Ávalos b. 20 Jan 1868 La Purificación, Fresnillo

Sotera

Jalostotitlan, Lagos de Moreno and San Juan de los Lagos are missing from the 1930 Census. Does anyone have an idea why they are missing?

Saludos.

Sergio Gutierrez

Also, a place to find lists of burials in various Arizona (and other states') cemeteries is

http://freesurnamesearch.com

Other informative AZ sites are: http://www.asu.edu.lib/archives

http://arizonan.com

http://azgenforum

http://azgenweb

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA

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> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> From: windmillbb@aol.com
> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 13:14:48 -0400
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Arizona Web Site for Birth & Death Certificates
>
>
>
>
> Would you please add the following web site to the list of Links - Genealogy References and Resources: http://genealogy.az.gov (its free)
>
> I am originally from Arizona and have used this site for several years and have uncovered lots of info in the death and birth certificates. Many of our ancestors who settled in

Lisa,

You are correct in your assumptions, when you look at the marriage information it says:

Francisco Xavier de Covarrubias, español, originario y vecino del Rancho de San Francisco de las Lajas de esta feligresia hijo legitimo de Augustin de Covarrubias y de Maria Peres difunta, viudo de Eugenia Gertrudis de Saldaña....segundas nupcias con Maria Ysabel de Avila, española.......

I don't recall de film but I think it is the same that you are looking into but the book is running on the opposite way, it means that the last record on the film will be feb 1770 but if you go back you will find march, april and so on.

Regards

Enrique Luviano

No, I don't believe so. By the way, as far as I know, the state of Texas will not release a Texas Death Certificate if the death occurred less than 25 years ago. The only exception is to immediate family members. If the death occurred more than 25 years ago, you can request a copy through the state: http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/vs/reqproc/deathcert.shtm for a fee. However, familysearch.org is the only free site that I know that has TX death certificates, but only for deaths up to 1976.

Rosalinda

Is it possible to index from the area we are researching, or is it random?

If you still need people, I would also like to participate in the indexing project. If it's at all possible I would like to index in the states of Jalisco or Zacatecas. Just let me know how to get started.

Jose Carlos de Leon

If you still need people, I would also like to participate in the indexing project. If it's at all possible I would like to index in the state of Jalisco. Just let me know how to get started.
Anita

Count on me joseph, for Zacatecas records.

Anna Arellano Smith

________________________________
From: Joseph Puentes
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thu, April 7, 2011 1:29:01 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Gracias/Thanks Indexing Project at 50%

Thanks to the 15 people that committed to joining the indexing project. I was
looking for 5% and got 2.5% is it possible that there are another 15 people out
there that would care to join in the indexing project? Be patient with me I'll
be asking for just a few more emails and then settle for what we have. I would
like 15 more people to join us in committing 30 minutes per week to this
indexing project for the states of Jalisco, Zacatecas y Aguascalientes.

Gracias a los 15 personas que van a entrar al proyecto. Estube buscando 5% pero
recibi 2.5%, es posible que hay otros 15 personas que tambien pueden entrar a
este proyecto? Tengan paciencia conmigo porque voy a pedir con unos pocos mas
correos para voluntarios. Quicera

Joseph, please add my name to the list of volunteers - any state. It's a privilege to join you.

Gloria Delgado

Count me in, I can help with the indexing. Thanks,

Jose Reynoso

Me too. If you have not recruited 30 members yet, I can help.
Saludos,
-Claudia

Count me in for Jalisco. Sagrada Mitra or Archivos de la Real Audiencia.

Sergio Gutierrez

Count me in. I await your instructions.

Raquel Ruiz
Massauchesetts

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org

Joseph,
Thank you for your reassurance, and please add me to the volunteer indexing project.  Since Villa Garcia, Zacatecas is missing from the church records, I'd love to work on that if possible.  Thanks again for all you do.   Alice Blake 

--- On Thu, 4/7/11, Joseph Puentes wrote:

From: Joseph Puentes
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Gracias/Thanks Indexing Project at 50%
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Thursday, April 7, 2011, 8:29 PM

Thanks to the 15 people that committed to joining the indexing project. I was looking for 5% and got 2.5% is it possible that there are another 15 people out there that would care to join in the indexing project? Be patient with me I'll be asking for just a few more emails and then settle for what we have. I would like 15 more people to join us in committing 30 minutes per week to this indexing project for the states of Jalisco, Zacatecas y Aguascalientes.

Gracias a los 15 personas que van a entrar al proyecto. Estube buscando 5% pero

Would be happy to help, especially with Aguascalientes. C.J. Adams-Ramos

Joseph, I would like to participate with the indexing. Please sign me on!
Gerry Marentes
Plano, Tx

Gracias Sergio por el aporte. Es de gran ayuda.

Saludos.
Jorge Luis Ramírez Gómez.

Sergio, thanks for sharing your images with us. That is precisely what this group is about! I noticed that one giving gesture begets another giving gesture. Let's hope that other members of Nuestros Ranchos see your example and also share what they have.

It's been my experience that giving info freely, ALWAYS comes back threefold! And we all benefit from that. You are a great example of this.

Saludos, y gracias.

-Claudia

 
Yolanda

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From: "fandemma@gmail.com"
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2011 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Padres de Pedro Macías Valadez

¿Hay alguien que tiene comunicación directo con el Arq Rodolfo H. Hernández Chavez, cronista de Encarnación de Díaz? Existe ese error en su página que el esposo de Luisa de Villegas fue hijo de Felipe Macias Valadez y Vazquez de Retamosa y de María Tavera. http://www.historiasyrecuerdosdeencarnaciondediaz.com/insurgencia.html#… Eso es imposible y vuelvo a explicar porque para que esté en este mismo mensaje. Pedro Macías Valadez y Luisa de Villegas tuvieron sus hijos entre 1615 y 1625. Felipe Macías Valadez y María de Tavera casaron en 1618 y tuvieron su hijo Pedro en 1619. Sería bueno que corrigiera ese error.

Veo que aparte de Gaspar y Felipe su sitio tiene a los que según Jaime Holcombe son hijos de Nicolás Macías Valadez y Leonor de Retamosa como hijos de Alonso

Gracias Armando,

Lei el correo de Steven sobre los Martin del Campo. Steve dice que el esposo de Maria Lopez de la Cruz fue Lazaro, tambien conocido como Bartolme y que nacio alrededor de 1602. En el libro de Mario Gomez Mata, Santa Maria de los Lagos, aparece un Bartolome Martin que casa con Catalina de Espinosa en 6 de Marzo de 1590. No abra un error con la informacion de Steven. Sera posible que el esposo de Maria de la Cruz sea hijo de Bartolome quien casa en 1591 en Lagos de Moreno?

Correo de Steve:
"The progenitor and patriarch of this distinguished family of hidalgos was a gentleman by the name of don Lázaro Martín del Campo (also known as Bartolomé de San Lázaro Martín del Campo). Don Lázaro, born around 1602, was a native of Revilla de Campos, province of Palencia, Castilla y León, España."

Un saludo
Sergio Gutierrez

Hola Armando,

Dices que ya tienes comprobado los padres de Maria Lopez de la Cruz, esposa de Lazaro Martin del Campo. He visto dos versiones de quienes fueron ellos pero no se cual es la verdadera. Tambien me interesa quienes fueron los padres de Lazaro. Huvo un Bartolome Martin en Lagos de Moreno pero no se si este fue su padre.

Gracias de antemano.

Sergio Gutierrez Martin

Ronald,
Ignore those racial identifications. We know from christenings and marriage documents that they are incorrect. I have never seen the padron, and I am not sure if these were errors introduced in the original document, or when the padron was transcribed. Maybe Rose Hardy can illuminate on that.

Jaime Alvarado

Estimado don Armando:

No conozco bien el tema de Pedro, pero le doy estos datos sueltos.

Su Pedro Macías Valadés tal vez corresponda al bautizado en Aguascalientes el 11 de julio de 1619, dueño de la Estancia de los Saltos, hijo de un Macías Valadés y Retamosa y de Maria de Tavera y Torres. Le pido de favor revise el bautizo de Pedro con cuidado, pues no apunté bien el nombre del padre en mis libretas, pero puede consultarlo en Family Search, que le permite ahora leer la partida microfilmada del original.

Su defunción es de Aguascalientes, del 22 de septiembre de 1649. Fue esposo de doña Luisa de Villegas. Tal vez, se hallan vinculados a los siguientes posibles hijos o hermanos, bautizados en Aguascalientes en las siguientes fechas:

- Catalina, hacia 1614. Fue casada hacia 1633 con don Tomás de Villalobos y Pérez de Nava, hijo de don Cristóbal y de doña María.

- Juana, bautizada el 30 de enero de 1617

- Beatriz, el 2 de enero de 1619, quien casó en Aguascalientes el 22 de

Is María Ignacia Rodríguez de Velasco y Osorio Barba (1778-1851) better known as "La Guera Rodríguez,

(-Google automatic traslation-) la Güera Rodriguez

Miguel Beltran

Hope you got me down somewhere? I didn't see my name anywhere. Thank you.
Esther Jordan Lopez

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> Con placer Joseph. Just guide us
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