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searching for parents of jose maria lisola/lizola as noted in family search records.. he is married to maria rita auhumada or aumada. child maria antonia who married victor velos is my 5th great grandparents. maria rita ahumadas parents were phelipe aumada and michaela de la veas. would like to know where they are from and anything about them as the records are vague in family search. thanks

Published by R.A.Ricci – Mon, 2018-12-10 20:35 | Permalink

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1). Lázaro Moreno de Canas and Elvira Sanchez. ( alive in early 1530’s)

2). Diego Moreno De Canas and Ysabel De Velasco

3). Elvira Moreno Belasco and Francisco Martin

4). Mariana De San Agustin Moreno y Martin and Juan Gil Martinez

5). Constanza Martínez y Moreno and Alonzo Llerena Agundez

6). Constanza Llerena Y Martinez and Juan De Avalos

7). Petrona de Avalos and Sebastian De Veas

8). Eugenio Joseph De Baes and Juana María De Cecena

9). María Michaela De la Cruz Baes and Joseph Phelipe Antonio de Jesus Ahumada

10). María Rita (Antta.?) Ahumada y Baes and José María Lisaola (Lisola, Lizola)

María Rita (Antta.?) Ahumada y Baes has a sister named María Nicolasa Ahumada y Vaes who married Joseph Rafael Lizaola who is a brother to José María Lizaola so it is another case of brothers marrying sisters.

Rick A. Ricci

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Hi Rick. These are my ancestors as well. But I got stuck with Elvira Moreno, wife of Francisco Martin "el Viejo". I got info on them from the books "Ameca, Protofundacion Mexicana" and "La Gran Propiedad en Cocula de Avalos". In the first book, it mentions Diego Moreno as Elvira's father, but does not mention the mother. How did you find this connection? I see there is a baptism record on familysearch for an Elvira Moreno in Puebla, daughther of Diego Moreno Canas and Ysabel de Belasco on 24 aug 1586. But I don't think this is our Elvira, because her husband Francisco Martin died, according to the second book I mentioned, between 1581 and 1606. Also, on the same book, it mentions that Elvira Moreno, wife of Francisco Martin, bought a piece of land for 250 pesos in gold on September 4 1587. Definitely, she is not the same Elvira born in Puebla in 1586.

On another note, do you know the parents of Juan Gil, husband of Mariana de San Agustin? I only have his name and nothing else. In fact

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Hi Rick. These are my ancestors as well. But I got stuck with Elvira Moreno, wife of Francisco Martin "el Viejo". I got info on them from the books "Ameca, Protofundacion Mexicana" and "La Gran Propiedad en Cocula de Avalos". In the first book, it mentions Diego Moreno as Elvira's father, but does not mention the mother. How did you find this connection? I see there is a baptism record on familysearch for an Elvira Moreno in Puebla, daughther of Diego Moreno Canas and Ysabel de Belasco on 24 aug 1586. But I don't think this is our Elvira, because her husband Francisco Martin died, according to the second book I mentioned, between 1581 and 1606. Also, on the same book, it mentions that Elvira Moreno, wife of Francisco Martin, bought a piece of land for 250 pesos in gold on September 4 1587. Definitely, she is not the same Elvira born in Puebla in 1586.

On another note, do you know the parents of Juan Gil, husband of Mariana de San Agustin? I only have his name and nothing else. In fact

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Published by R.A.Ricci – Mon, 2018-12-10 20:34 | Permalink

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I believe that José María Lisola is the son of José María Albino Lisaola Ruiz and Francisca Cipriana Bernal.

José María Albino Lisaola is the son of Joseph Lizaola and María Teresa Ruiz

Francisca Cipriana Bernal is the daughter of Joseph De Ahumada y Bernal and María Isabel Lopez.

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María Rita de Ahumada y Veas (Beas) is the daughter of Jose Phelipe Antonio De Jesus Ahumada and María Michaela De la Cruz De Beas

Jose Phelipe Antonio De Jesus Ahumada is the son of Miguel De Ahumada and Josefa Jimenez

María Michaela De la Cruz Beas is the daughter of Joseph Eugenio De Beas and Juana María De Cecena.

Joseph Eugenio de Baes is the son of Sebastian De Veas and Petrona de Avalos.

There were numerou

Rick A. Ricci

Published by R.A.Ricci – Sun, 2018-12-09 23:44 | Permalink

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Here is their marriage record:

Phelipe Antonio Aumada
Spouse's Name Michaela De La Crus Beas
Event Date 13 Feb 1760
Event Place San Miguel,Cocula,Jalisco,Mexico
Citing this Record
"México matrimonios, 1570-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JC6B-LLJ : 10 February 2018), Phelipe Antonio Aumada and Michaela De La Crus Beas, 13 Feb 1760; citing San Miguel,Cocula,Jalisco,Mexico, reference ; FHL microfilm 232,885.

Rick A. Ricci

Published by R.A.Ricci – Mon, 2018-12-10 19:35 | Permalink

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Here are a few records that you can study to find out more information:

Phelipe Ahumada
mentioned in the record of Maria Antta. Ahumada Veas
Name Phelipe Ahumada
gender Male
Wife Michaela Veas
Daughter Maria Antta. Ahumada Veas
Other information in the record of Maria Antta. Ahumada Veas
from Mexico Baptisms
Name Maria Antta. Ahumada Veas
Gender Female
Christening Date 15 Nov 1775
Christening Place SAN MIGUEL,COCULA,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father's Name Phelipe Ahumada
Mother's Name Michaela Veas
Citing this Record
"México bautismos, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N1TL-589 : 10 February 2018), Phelipe Ahumada in entry for Maria Antta. Ahumada Veas, 15 Nov 1775; citing SAN MIGUEL,COCULA,JALISCO,MEXICO, reference ; FHL microfilm 232,865.

Ma. Nicolasa Haumada
Gender Female
Christening Date 26 Sep 1779
Christening Place San Martín Hidalgo, Jalisco, Mexico
Father's Name Phelipe Haumada
Mother's Name Michaela Veas
Citing this Record
"México bautismos

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