Estimado Joseph Puentes:
Te envío mi investigación genealógica. Se trata de un resúmen, pues tengo
más información de las principales líneas que se integran en las diversas
generaciones. No me he limitado a las cuestiones puramente familiares, sino
que he recuperado el contexto de sus vidas en ranchos, estancias y
haciendas. Actualmente investigo los apellidos Romo de Vivar; González de
Hermosillo; Díaz de León; Muñóz de la Barba y Beltrán de la Cueva, que
sonfamilias puramente españolas. Sin embargo, en la línea Ojeda-Palomino y
Candelas-Palacios, encontré diversos ancestros en calidades de castas:
"moriscos", "mulatos", "saltapatrás" y "lobos", todos siendo esclavos hasta
1821, en la servidumbre de la hacienda de "Trancoso", Zacatecas pero
procedentes, ¡que interesante!, de ancestros en el Africa Occidental.
Saludos
P.D. Te pido una disculpa por la demora, pues ha sido por razones de
trabajo.
_________________________________________________________________
Prodigy/MSN. Más Útil Cada Día http://www.prodigy.msn.com
Thank you Felipe for bringing up a good point, not all our ancestors came from illustrious conquestadors, many of our ancestors were carrying their names because they were owned by them or they worked on their properties and had their names taken away and replaced with Spanish or Portuguese surnames making our finding their Indeginous roots almost impossible. I find in the records it wasn't unusual for our non-Spanish ancestors to use more than one surname during their lifetime. The one good thing is the search makes our knowledge of Mexican history more thorough than I ever knew I would gain in the search for my ancestral roots. Not a single piece of information is wasted even when the results show we were on the wrong family line and have to start over in our quest for the truth.. I think our passion for the truth must be fueled by the ancestors themselves to give us a solid family foundation.. What a journey we have set out for ourselves and how important groups like
this are to
- Inicie sesión para enviar comentarios
I certanly agree with you, we are conquistadores too just because we have a strong will for a start and became settlers any time we brake an adobe brick, and having find indigenous blood streem in our veins we, for sure are "mixed" proud, which means we are the most proud. That has to be the sentiment of the criollos (creoles) beyond any complaint against the spaniards "from Spain" during Independence war.
Erlinda Castanon-Long escribió:
Thank you Felipe for bringing up a good point, not all our ancestors came from illustrious conquestadors, many of our ancestors were carrying their names because they were owned by them or they worked on their properties and had their names taken away and replaced with Spanish or Portuguese surnames making our finding their Indeginous roots almost impossible. I find in the records it wasn't unusual for our non-Spanish ancestors to use more than one surname during their lifetime. The one good thing is the search makes our knowledge of Mexican
- Inicie sesión para enviar comentarios
Leticia, it's really nice to see and hear people from Mexico or ancestors from Mexico speak with such pride.. Many of us spent too many years not knowing our heritage and not having a sense of pride because we accepted the Anglo view of what a Mexican was.. or was not.. I remember the days when being told I didn't look Mexican was considered a compliment, boy have I come a long way! I also remember the pain my blond, blue eyed Mexican mother endured because people said thoughtless, cruel things abt Mexicans in front of her never knowing her ethnic origens. She kept quiet so she wouldn't make trouble, very normal for her generation in California during the 40's, 50's and 60's.
Genealogy and groups like Nuestros Ranchos give us a place to learn the ropes of genealogy and to share information that time and money might not otherwise allow us. By sharing our research we help each other to grow in pride, knowledge and honor all those who came before us whether thier lines stayed in
- Inicie sesión para enviar comentarios
There is a say in Mexico in reference of the white spaniard mixing with an "indian": let us better the race.
And is good to remember that not all spaniards were pristine whites, there were moor blooded ones, the morenos, those with the "ojos tapatios", almond shaped dark eyes.
My father is white skin, blue eyes, tall and handsome, yeah, from Los Altos; my mom was
morena, chaparra and gorda, long and dark trenzas, also from Los Altos, she carried the "ojos tapatios".
Been racist is to be weak. We joke about it with my father telling him: you wanted to better the race uh?
Erlinda Castanon-Long escribió:
Leticia, it's really nice to see and hear people from Mexico or ancestors from Mexico speak with such pride.. Many of us spent too many years not knowing our heritage and not having a sense of pride because we accepted the Anglo view of what a Mexican was.. or was not.. I remember the days when being told I didn't look Mexican was considered a compliment, boy have
- Inicie sesión para enviar comentarios
You might want to ask your snow white dad to have his DNA tested to see what he really is.
Appearance does not always determine race, especially among such a hybird race as ours.
Mi mamacita guerra, guerra, blanquita, ojos azulos, rubia, tested indigena.
DNA testing can shake preconeived notions. Make you look at things entirely differently which I think is a good thing. People tend to become mentally sedentary. In Europe even more so than in the Amerias, in my opinion.
---- Leticia Leon wrote:
> There is a say in Mexico in reference of the white spaniard mixing with an "indian": let us better the race.
> And is good to remember that not all spaniards were pristine whites, there were moor blooded ones, the morenos, those with the "ojos tapatios", almond shaped dark eyes.
>
> My father is white skin, blue eyes, tall and handsome, yeah, from Los Altos; my mom was
> morena, chaparra and gorda, long and dark trenzas, also from Los Altos, she carried the "ojos tapatios".
>
- Inicie sesión para enviar comentarios
Ahorita que viene a tema el comentario de Felipe Reyes de los Díaz de León, me gustaría que alguien me ayudara a saber el origen de este apellido compuesto, pues yo solo tengo anotado a mis ancestros de los cuales el mas viejo en esta linea es Juan Díaz de León, esposo de Juana Trujillo. Juan nació aproximadamente en 1644 en Aguascalientes.
Juan Díaz de Leon y Juana Trujillo, tuvieron entre sus hijos, dos ancestros míos. Nicolás Díaz de Leon y Antonia Díaz de Leon.
Saludos.
Jorge Luis Ramírez Gómez.
- Inicie sesión para enviar comentarios
My snow white husband who thought he was german-irish tested J2.
--
Esther A. Herold
-------------- Original message from : --------------
> You might want to ask your snow white dad to have his DNA tested to see what he
> really is.
>
> Appearance does not always determine race, especially among such a hybird race
> as ours.
>
> Mi mamacita guerra, guerra, blanquita, ojos azulos, rubia, tested indigena.
>
> DNA testing can shake preconeived notions. Make you look at things entirely
> differently which I think is a good thing. People tend to become mentally
> sedentary. In Europe even more so than in the Amerias, in my opinion.
>
> ---- Leticia Leon wrote:
> > There is a say in Mexico in reference of the white spaniard mixing with an
> "indian": let us better the race.
> > And is good to remember that not all spaniards were pristine whites, there
> were moor blooded ones, the morenos, those with the "ojos tapatios", almond
> shaped dark eyes.
> >
> > My father
- Inicie sesión para enviar comentarios
Esther,
Can you please tell this dummy what it means to be classified as J2 in your DNA?
Thanks,
Alicia in San Jose, Ca
----- Original Message ----
From: eaherold@att.net
To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 2:13:57 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] GenealogÃa " Reyes"
My snow white husband who thought he was german-irish tested J2.
--
Esther A. Herold
-------------- Original message from : --------------
> You might want to ask your snow white dad to have his DNA tested to see what he
> really is.
>
> Appearance does not always determine race, especially among such a hybird race
> as ours.
>
> Mi mamacita guerra, guerra, blanquita, ojos azulos, rubia, tested indigena.
>
> DNA testing can shake preconeived notions. Make you look at things entirely
> differently which I think is a good thing. People tend to become mentally
> sedentary. In Europe even more so than in the Amerias, in my opinion.
>
> ---- Leticia Leon wrote:
> >
- Inicie sesión para enviar comentarios
Genealog