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Arturo,

Have you got the ancestry of Bartolome de Luna y Tapia?

regards,
Hector Felix Aizcorbe

> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> From: arturo.ramos2@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:39:39 -0700> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Lunas in Tlaltenango> > > Anna:> > Also, I remember reading somewhere that the Tapias, like the Haros were descendants of Pedro de Bobadilla, original encomendero of Tepechitlan.> > There is a marriage register of Bartholome de Luna y Tapia, marrying a daughter of Hernando de Haro and Cecilia Lopez, which indicates they were cousins and would seem to support this theory:> > 1659-01-08> Cuarto grado de parentesco con dispensación. Bartholomé de Luna y Tapia, español soltero con Doña Lorenza Ortiz de San Pedro, española vuida. Padrinos Ignacio Rubio de Loyola y Isabel Tello, su mujer. Testigos Alonzo ___, Juana de Reyes y Pedro Jiménez, todos españoles y vecinos del partido.> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org

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Arturo,

Have you got the ancestry of Bartolome de Luna y Tapia?

regards,
Hector Felix Aizcorbe

> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> From: arturo.ramos2@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:39:39 -0700> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Lunas in Tlaltenango> > > Anna:> > Also, I remember reading somewhere that the Tapias, like the Haros were descendants of Pedro de Bobadilla, original encomendero of Tepechitlan.> > There is a marriage register of Bartholome de Luna y Tapia, marrying a daughter of Hernando de Haro and Cecilia Lopez, which indicates they were cousins and would seem to support this theory:> > 1659-01-08> Cuarto grado de parentesco con dispensación. Bartholomé de Luna y Tapia, español soltero con Doña Lorenza Ortiz de San Pedro, española vuida. Padrinos Ignacio Rubio de Loyola y Isabel Tello, su mujer. Testigos Alonzo ___, Juana de Reyes y Pedro Jiménez, todos españoles y vecinos del partido.> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Nuestros Ranchos Research

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just last month I found Luna Y tapia in my family tree in Jalostotitlan/ Lagos. I have onlly that she was married to Jose Geronimo Ramirez. I have the dateof the marriage but have not had time to continue this investigation yet. can you give some info on the luna y tapia family.

R.A.Ricci

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Saludos R.A.
 
I have Tapia ancestors from Los Altos. In fact, my surname using Mexico's standards is actually Apodaca Tapia. I found some interesting information about the "Luna y Tapia" surname in Los Altos, particularly in the area of Lagos de Moreno. I looked for the info on the Lagos website where I previously found it, but was unable to locate it. I posted a message a long time ago in this group and I'll paste it here. I'm sure you'll be interested. This is my message back in 2005:

Hello.

I want to share what I recently found and check if anybody is
related to these ancestors. A couple days ago, I finally checked the
marriage record of my ancestors from Los Altos.

My 2nd greatgrandfather Juan Tapia married my 2nd greatgrandmother
Bibiana Martinez in Lagos de Moreno on February 5, 1879. Juan's
parents were Atanacio Tapia and Secundina Olivares. Bibiana's
parents were Juan Martinez and Matiana Lopez. Before reading this
document I just knew that my Tapia ancestros were

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Hector:

I am sorry that it took me so long to answer your question about Bartholome de Luna y Tapia's ancestors. I am not certain about this as I do not have definitive documentation, but I am pretty certain that Bartholome's parents were:

Francisco DE LUNA and Maria DE TAPIA

and he had at least two siblings:
Luis LUNA, n. 1624
Ygnacio LUNA TAPIA

The combination of surnames and time period and location, as well as the fact that the marriage dispensation said that his wife was his third cousin, militates toward this being the same person. That would mean that Francisco DE LUNA and Hernando DE HARO were second cousins, so Maria DE HARO Y SAUCEDO and Francisco LUNA's father? had a pair of shared grandparents who were most likely Pedro BOBADILLA and Maria DE SAUCEDO, for whom Hernando DE HARO's mother was named.