Dumb question...
How do we know whether certain Gonzalez families are "Hermosillo or "Rubalcaba, or...?"
Is there a way to figure this out if a record does not specify? Are certain towns/villas presumed to be Gonzalez de xxx???
Please respond if you have researched this. I'm trying to decipher my Gonzalez from Yahualica. Thanks.
thanks.
Claudia, you do not assume until you see a birth, or marriage certificate with the name and only then can you add the same composed last name to the siblings or decendents or the following ancestors.
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From: Claudia_Reynoso
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Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Gonzalez (de Hermosillo, de Rubalcaba, etc.)
Dumb question...
How do we know whether certain Gonzalez families are "Hermosillo or "Rubalcaba, or...?"
Is there a way to figure this out if a record does not specify? Are certain towns/villas presumed to be Gonzalez de xxx???
Please respond if you have researched this. I'm trying to decipher my Gonzalez from Yahualica. Thanks.
thanks.
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Yes, Miguel, I figured that much...perhaps my question wasn't clear...
From what I know, the "hermosillo" and "rubalcaba" denote a region in Spain, versus a compounded last name. Am I mistaken?
I notice there are more Gonzales de Hermosillo in my area of interest. Just wondering if any other member here has done a deeper research on this. Maybe I shouldn't have used the word "assume." And if I am incorrect about the region vs. compound - please let me know.
Thanks.
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Hi Claudia, surnames are very complicated, I still have trouble understanding! What I do know
compound and denote a region go hand in hand. Usually and typically most Spaniards had the typical
patrónimico followed by a "de" then the city or place. But others had two places or two patrónimicos
and others. Like Díaz y Ortiz or González de Hermosillo. Take Juan González de Hermosillo, when
he traveled to New Spain. Look at his name. You can decode it. It means my name is Juan
one of my ancestors (most likely in the 12th Century 1300-1400) was named Gonzalo who
came from "el pueblo o villa de Hermosillo, España. Anytime last names ending in -OZ, IZ, EZ, -UEZ
denote "son of". If I had a child in medieval Spain. It would be Martín Daniel. YES Daniel (my name)
is his last name. Notice Daniel doesnt follow the rule -EZ, IZ, OZ or UEZ, this was the exception
not all father names could follow the rule because it would sound weird. Imagine Martín Danieluez
or Danieloz Danieliz just simply
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You can somewhat tell but not recommended look at the names they use and what place they're from. Itend to find Hermosillo in Jalos while Ruvalcabas I can find in San Juan de los Lagos and Nochistlán. -Daniel
Also the marriages some families tened to marry other families than certain others. The Hermosillos were close to the Martín del Campo and Mendoza. Only examples I can come up with.
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Gonzalez (de Hermosillo, de Rubalcaba, etc.)