Hello my name is Anisabel Santamaria. I should really be doing research on my family in Sonora, (i'm kind of stuck now) however, my husband's paternal & maternal side has been interesting and fairly easy to find, of course until you hit a wall and don't know where else to go. I am looking for information from El Tuito, Jalisco on the Rubio, Castillon, & Avalos families. I did go all the way back to 1815 on the Castillon family and thought I had a connection until about 1830 defunciones, it skips about 10 years, where is probably where my answers are. The pages are consistent but somehow those 10 years are missing.
As for my husband's paternal side, Santamaria, Salgado & Preciado are from Tomatlan. His great grandfather Pablo Santamaria was supposedly a "huerfano" and it turns out they were wrong. I called the church to find out information on Pablo's brother, Enrigue Santamaria and found his baptism and their father, who is Gabriel Santamaria. Well until I find out some dates to break it down I hate to call the church without good information. I have been unable to find the marriage of Clara Salgado with Pablo Santamaria. I found census information on the entire family on both maternal and paternal side but the Santamaria leads me to a dead end without any more dates. I was told the church in Tomatlan had burned down or something but if I continue to listen to his family (BTW....it looks like I know more information on his family than they do :) they will detour me the wrong way.
This research is both tiring yet exciting when I find a link. I did make a connection to a child Maria Susana Castillon in El Tuito died 1819 and her father's name was Onofre Castillon, which is what my mother in laws grandfather's name is so I'll assume that this Onofre is the main patriarch of the clan from the 1700's. I believe the info I found on this death entry shows that they are indeed from Spain, which we all know most of them are but having something actually in writing is where all your research rewards you.
Well since I am new I hope I did this right and haven't left our or added too much on this forum. I would appreciate any information that you might have. BTW...is familysearch.org going to add Tomatlan to their database? I would love to help index for Jalisco, if we are allowed to chose the location. Thanks.
Anisabel Santamaria
Hello,
I'm very excited about becoming a member of the Nuestros Ranchos
group. I'm been doing research for about a year (whenever I have a free
second). Both my parents are from Atolinga, Zacatecas, so this is where I
started my search. According to my Family Tree Maker file, I now have 1,546
people and 16 generation on my family tree! Up to now, I have done most
of my research on familysearch.org and recently bought two of Arturo Ramos
Pinedo's books: Familias Antiguas de Tlaltenango and La Familia Ramos
Gutierrez y su herencia jalisciense y zacatecana. I have found that we
have some ancestors in common, so it has been wonderful to read some of the
history and other information in these books.
*My paternal grandparent's surnames are:*
Castaneda
Carols de Godoy
Rendon
Castro
*My maternal grandparents surnames are:*
Serrano
Castaneda
Haro
Castaneda
*Other surnames in my family:*
Covarrubias
Gonzalez
Miramontes
Llamas
Sandoval
Perez Texada
Rodriguez
*Locations of my research so far*
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Welcome to the group.. is your El Durazno part of Jerez?
Linda Castanon-Long in B.C.
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From: Alicia Castaneda
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 9:48 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] new member
Hello,
I'm very excited about becoming a member of the Nuestros Ranchos
group. I'm been doing research for about a year (whenever I have a free
second). Both my parents are from Atolinga, Zacatecas, so this is where I
started my search. According to my Family Tree Maker file, I now have 1,546
people and 16 generation on my family tree! Up to now, I have done most
of my research on familysearch.org and recently bought two of Arturo Ramos
Pinedo's books: Familias Antiguas de Tlaltenango and La Familia Ramos
Gutierrez y su herencia jalisciense y zacatecana. I have found that we
have some ancestors in common, so it has been wonderful to read some of the
history and other information in these books.
*My paternal grandparent's
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Linda, it is part of Jerez. Here on the map it's about an inch straight above Jerez.
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/14890
Laura Gonzalez
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Hi, I bought a t-shirt in Jerez with that map on it!
My family lived in El Durasno, I was there in 2003 for a visit, my Dad had not gone there since he was 16 in 1936.. His parents, Epitacio Castanon and Juana Sanchez were both from El Durazno/Durasno. They left during the revolution in 1916.
Can you tell me what surnames in El Durazno you are related too?
Family surnames in el Durasno:
Castanon
Caldera
Sanchez
Reveles
De la Cueva
Cortes
Tovar
Garcia
Alcala
thank you.. Linda Castanon-Long
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From: "mayangrl@sonic.net"
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 10:42 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] El Durazno
Linda, it is part of Jerez. Here on the map it's about an inch straight above Jerez.
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/14890
Laura Gonzalez
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Hello Linda and Laura,
You're correct there is "El Durazno" in "el municipio de Jerez". However
there is another small "rancho" by the same name in "el municipio de
Atolinga". It is between Atolinga and Tlaltenango, Zacatecas. My
grandmother, Rosa Haro's family was from there. I also have Castaneda
ancestors that are from this "El Durazno".
Alicia
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IMPORTANT NOTICE: Please note that this is my EMAIL (
maliciacastaneda@gmail.com).
--Alicia Castaneda-Rodriguez
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There is also an area (town? neighborhood? former rancho?) in Yahualica,
Jalisco by the named El Durazno.
Raquel Ruiz
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>
> I really need to proofread before I send. Raquel
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Hello Everyone,
My name is RoseMary Fabian (jojofab) and I am new to this site. I am retired and thus have time to work on four genealogical trees. I have not done much work for the past 9 months due to my 94-year old mother’s illness and death this December 2012. However, I am determined to get back into my research. I began researching in December of 2010 and have gotten far mostly because of the areas of my study, which have good records on Family Search. Also this site along with the Guadalajara Dispensations site has been very beneficial. I am blocked on some branches of my trees, but will keep searching. My parents were each widowed when they married and I am also researching their previous spouse’s trees for my half brothers and sisters on each side. I may have some mistakes on my trees, but I try very hard to verify through baptisms, marriages, dispensations, and death records. I also look at brothers and sisters in each family to get hints on family relations and
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Rose Mary,
In going through your post I was trying to decipher whether you had done your own research or whether the information you had was from other people's research you had found on -line.
I can tell you that for me personally, while I love to find and read on the internet other people's findings, I don't include it as factual in my research until I personally go through and one by one, identify each person from the actual records and place each individual in their respective place on the family tree and have a record of the document that can corroborate the findings as shown on the family tree.
Not saying that you haven't done that, just saying that it's my method to ensure that I'm on the right track and that it is indeed my family I'm tracking and identifying as mine.
Good luck in your search and re-search and thanks for the introduction.
Alicia,
San Jose, Ca
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From: RoseMary Fabian
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thursday
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RoseMary Fabian
I was astonished at your email “welcoming” me to Nuestros Ranchos. I trust most members are not so confused as you seem to be.
Your message insinuates that I substitute other people’s findings for my own research. Let me assure Nuestros Ranchos members that nothing could be further from the truth.
I do my own research as I stated in the first paragraph of my introduction. Perhaps I could have been clearer, but I state it again here, “I may have some mistakes on my trees, but I try very hard to verify through baptisms, marriages, dispensations, and death records. I also look at brothers and sisters in each family to get hints on family relations and through logical timelines.”
I have found that the only way to do research is to trace your family by verifying data. How else would you know if you are following your own family line? It would be absurd to use information from other sites and place them on my tree without verifying if they are indeed a branch of
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My apologies Rose Mary,
You are probably correct, most members would most likely not be as confused as I am.
From what you state in this message, you conduct your own research to verify all your data. So sorry if this was hurtful and embarrasing to you, this was not my intent to make you feel bad, especially when this was your introduction to Nuestros Ranchos and someone questions your methods.
One of the reasons we send to all is because sometimes we learn from the postings to all and sometimes those who are new to research believe that everything that's out there has been verified and this does not appear to be the case with you. You are just new to Nuestros Ranchos but not new to researching and that you have excellent research skills.
Again, I apologize if I was disrespectful to you, it wasn't my intent.
Alicia,
San Jose, Ca
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From: "jojofab@cox.net"
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 8:22 PM
Subject:
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RoseMary Fabian
Alicia,
I appreciate your message and apology. I submitted so many surnames because that is where my research has taken me. I don't think that genealogy is rocket science. It is detective work and logic. It means following your ancestor’s records of which it has been fairly easy on certain branches of my trees because of the cities where the records are indexed. It is important for me to ensure that I am following the correct line and is why I cross-reference by checking marital information with baptisms, siblings records, death records, dispensations, etc. On some lines I have not gone upward because of lack of records, so I have gone outward to better understand the family line.
The site that has taken me this far is the Family Search Site, which is a godsend in itself for I can access microfilm of the original church records. The fact that I read and write Spanish has helped, although old world Spanish has been a lesson in itself. I found the 1930 Mexican
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RoseMary.. I'm sure you will be a great addition to our ranks of researchers who are willing to share information in order to reclaim our heritage for ourselves and future generations.
Welcome
Linda Castanon-Long
Boulder City, Nev
researching, Jalisco, Zacatecas and where ever else the records take me!
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From: "jojofab@cox.net"
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 12:57 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] New Member Response
RoseMary Fabian
Alicia,
I appreciate your message and apology. I submitted so many surnames because that is where my research has taken me. I don't think that genealogy is rocket science. It is detective work and logic. It means following your ancestor’s records of which it has been fairly easy on certain branches of my trees because of the cities where the records are indexed. It is important for me to ensure that I am following the correct line and is why I cross-reference by checking
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Rose Mary.
We are glad you joined and we hope that you are also glad you joined and that you get something from the group who is always so giving of their time and of their expertise.
Buena Suerte,
Alicia
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From: "jojofab@cox.net"
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 12:57 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] New Member Response
RoseMary Fabian
Alicia,
I appreciate your message and apology. I submitted so many surnames because that is where my research has taken me. I don't think that genealogy is rocket science. It is detective work and logic. It means following your ancestor’s records of which it has been fairly easy on certain branches of my trees because of the cities where the records are indexed. It is important for me to ensure that I am following the correct line and is why I cross-reference by checking marital information with baptisms, siblings records, death records, dispensations, etc. On some lines
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Welcome, RoseMary! I am searching a different part of the target areas for this group, but I just wanted to welcome you-- there is an amazing wealth of information here, both on the site itself and its members. Good luck to you!
Rosalinda
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Hello Everyone,
My name is RoseMary Fabian (jojofab) and I am new to this site. I am retired and thus have time to work on four genealogical trees. I have not done much work for the past 9 months due to my 94-year old mother’s illness and death this December 2012. However, I am determined to get back into my research. I began researching in December of 2010 and have gotten far mostly because of the areas of my study, which have good records on Family Search. Also this site along with the Guadalajara Dispensations site has been very beneficial. I am blocked on some branches of my trees, but will keep searching. My parents were each widowed when they married and I am also
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Alicia, disregard this I just reread your message
longsjourney@yahoo.com
Linda Castanon-Long
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Hello,
My name is Pauline and I am new to this group. I am now an official "serious" researcher.
I am researching the names Alvarez, Diaz, Orozco, Marioner & Magallanes. The towns are Momax, Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman, La Playa, Tabasco-Zacatecas. I do not know the ranch but I do know that one existed in the 1870's location unknown and again in the 1930's in La Playa. I am particularly interested in my maternal grandfather's birth record and lineage as for some reason he was a very secretive man and would not discuss his heritage, birth place or family. My mother in her entire life only met one of his first cousin's (Maximo Diaz) and his cousin's father (his uncle) Erculano Diaz. My mother tells me (information from his 2nd wife) that his grandfather (Gregorio ?) came over as part of Carlota's army- when Maximillian was killed- he fled and went into hiding. Rumor has it that he stole several cantarros of money and lived his life in fear. This Gregorio died in Tabasco and only spoke
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new member