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https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18379-41013-45?cc=1874591&wc…

i'm having a hard time understanding some parts of this page

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This is what I understand:
(real meaning on parentesis)
?word that I am unsure on double question marks??

---y fue su Tio hermano de su sexta abuela Doña Maria si el famoso y memorable Capitan Miguel Caldera, quien por los años de mil quienientos ochenta y dos fue a pasificar a los Yndios de San Luis Miguel Mezquitic, y San Diego Atotonilco, descubrio la mina de San Pedro Potosi, paso de alli al Nayarit, de cuya sierra vajo muchos Yndios que poblo en Huaxuquilla la Alta en San Andres, y en Mezquitic, en donde por el Sr Birrey de nueva España fue ALcalde Mayor: quel año de ochonta y nueve el Sr. Virrey Don Manrrique de Acuña le hiso Capitan Alcalde Mayor de esta Villa y Corregidor de Taltenango, el de noventa y uno de San Luis llevo voluntarios a los Capitanes Yndios de aquellas Naciones a Mexico, quienes dieron a su soberano la obediencia, en manos del sr. Virrey don Luis Velasco segundo deeste nombre, y a su regreso trajo cuatrocientas familias de Tlacaltecos que se repartieron en

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Thank you for this record of the "ordenes" for Josef Tomas Xtobal Villegas, see https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-DK9X-KQ?i=237&cc=18745…. It fully identifies that Barbara Cabral was married to Antonio Villegas and notes the previous generation (abuelos). This helps me complete the information that has been supplied by Salvador Cabral Valdez, tying my family back to the Caldera family of the late 1500's and early 1600's. I posted my Caldera family history data on my genealogy links.

Thanks so much. It only took me 3 years to find your post!

Ed

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No problem ed. I should add that some of Salvador cabral's information on jerez lines is wrong, for example he lists Hernan Gonzales y berrocal as a son of Pedro Carrillo Davila and Sancho velmar/Vasquez de tapia when Hernan is too old to be their son

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Katy,

Yes, it is tough to be sure in any self-published genealogy ancestral line of the dates and names of everyone. I try to get primary sources but they are often times scarce going back to the 1500's.

What date of birth do you have for Hernan Gonzales de Berrocal; I have not found a date of birth for Hernan. For my purposes, I have guessed that he was born about 1560 or so since he was a contemporary (Capitan/soldier) of Capitan Miguel Caldera (1548-1597), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_Caldera, and he arguably married Miguel's half-sister.

What date of birth do you have for Pedro Carillo de Avila? I have it as 1532 but, as I review my sources, they all point to Salvador Cabral Valdes as the person primarily responsible for this date.

Thanks!

Ed

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Katy,

Interesting. Do you have a source for this land grant? I would appreciate it.

Do you know much about Salvador Cabral Valdes? His education? His job? He seems to be an amazing repository of information, understanding the limitations in accuracy when you go back to the 1500-1600's. Most of the time I am content with having an idea of the big picture, then fine tuning it as more information (right or wrong) becomes available. After studying my genealogy for 14 years, I have become quite humble and less dogmatic.

Thanks!

Ed

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i'm not sure what salvador's job is but his cid caldera, carrillo davila geneaologies aren't the only incorrect ones. he's made mistakes on other lines such as the sanchez castellanos

edit:here's a working link that mentions land grant
http://www.hidrocalidodigital.com/reportajes/articulo.php?idtipo=3&idno…