Looking for any information on Pedro de Ledezma married to Isabel de Grado prior to 1524
Dear Carlos,
I researched the naming of Conquistadors and found that you were right that some people that went on Vasquez De Coronados’s expedition were also referred to as Conquistador. So we have two men named Pedro Ledesma that were conquistadors but they were not involved in the same events.
Thanks,
Rick A. Ricci
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I have previously stated that criado meant servant but it had different connotations in the 1500’s. Criado could mean what we now call personal assistant or Subordinate. Many criados when on to hold high positions in government.
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Dear Jose Alfredo,
Many years ago I received some information on the Ledezma family from another genealogist that was also researching the Ledesmas that came to Mexico. His primary focus was trying to find his Ledesma ancestors from Guanajuato. He had come to a brick wall so he was researching all the Ledesmas that came from Spain. He informed me that the Ledesma ancestral branch (From Los altos de Jalisco) that I was investigating descended from a family in Zamora Spain that also left much descent in South America. He provided my starting point for investigating in Spain but I also ran into a brickwall like he did. That is until a couple of years later when I was working on another research project and discovered at the bottom of the page written in small print that the Ledesma that I was stuck at was the son of a woman who is the illegitimate daughter of a prince of Castilla. I became fascinated by this find and renewed my efforts into finding my Ledesma ancestry. What I
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Hello Primo Rick!
It´s so interesting that a friend of yours has researched about the Ledesmas in Gto. because that´s the line I´m researching now because the Ledesmas of Michoacán have their origin precisely in Guanajuato.
I´m stuck right now with Domingo de Ledesma who was born around 1650 and married around 1674 Micaela de Espinosa. This couple lived in Salamanca.
I haven´t been able yet to find Domingo´s parents but I found that there is a contemporary Domingo de Ledesma who died in Patzcuaro on may-24-1696 and he is reported as being born in 1656.
A posible father or grandfather of one or both Domingos may be another Domingo de Ledesma born around 1600 who married around 1625 Francisca de Mendoza, I have this couple baptizing their daughter Juana de Ledesma ago-10-1636 in Queretaro
I found that there´s a Juan de Ledesma who married around the year 1600 to Mariana de Vargas and they are the origin of the Ledesmas of Silao, Gto.
I also found that there was a Domingo
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Both “Pedro Ledesma” lived very busy lives but the one married to Catalina Mejia is attached to the hip of Francisco Vasquez De Coronado while the Conquistador was attached to the hip of Pedro Alvarado.
I take issue with your statement:
“Conquistador Pedro de Ledesma I found that the one married to Catalina Mexía is righteously called that way because in 1556 he claims to have fought, conquered and pacified Yucatan. “
I agree with you that more than one can be called a Conquistador, but I think that the title was used for the one that conquered Nicaragua and pacified Yucatán. The expedition of Vasquez De Coronado was not a big success like Alvarado’s was in Yucatán and Nicaragua. Vasquez De Coronados expedition was an economic disaster as he blew through his wife’s Estrada inheritance.
The origin of this mistake that they were the same person is found in Diccionario autobiográfico de conquistadores y pobladores de Nueva España: The Conquistador Pedro de Ledesma that “
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Hello Rick,
I just became a member and am here researching my Ledesma lineage. I am interested in your book that will be coming out. Please keep me posted. Also in reading your information above about Pedro Ledesma marrying a woman from Salamanca. There is a town named " Ledesma" in Salamanca. See below link. Not sure if you knew this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ledesma,_Castile_and_Le%C3%B3n
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Some genealogists have claimed that Pedro Ledesma married to Isabel Grado and Pedro Ledesma the conquistador are the same person. I do not think they are the same person. I believe that the Conquistador is the half brother of the grandfather of the Pedro Ledesma married to Isabel Grado.
I have a lot more work to do before I add anymore info on this family as I am still researching the branches that went to South America.
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Pedro Ledesma does descend from :
32. Pedro de Zuniga, Conde de Ledesma y Plasencia, Justicia Mayor del Rey and Alguacil mayor del Rey,
+ Isabel Guzman
So Pedro Ledesma does descend from Edward of Windsor aka Edward III, King of England.
Please see the post on the descent of Edward III to Margarita Rocha Gutierrez to see the line of Pedro Zuniga, Conde de Ledesma and Plasencia to King Edward III.
I am not ready to post the ancestry of Pedro Ledesma yet.
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hello, my name is Jose Alfredo De La Torre Romo, I am a descendent of Pedro de Ledezma and of his wife Catalina Mejia De La Torre daughter of Melchor Perez De La Torre. I have been trying to find from whom are his ancestors from Spaon, since I have been unable to follow that thread. I f you by any chance have any information on the subject could you please get in touch with me either thru here or my e-mail address at josealfredodelatorre@yahoo.com I greatly appreciate any help you might be able to provide.
Thank you
Jose Alfredo
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Dear Jose Alfredo,
I don’t know if our Pedro Ledesma that is married to Catalina De La Torre is the son of Pedro Ledesma and Isabel Grado. The timeline for The son of Pedro Ledesma and Isabel Grado does fit the Conquistador Pedro Ledesma but I have proved that these “Pedro Ledesma” are two different people.
Rick A. Ricci
Source Mygenes2000
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There are a couple of Pedro de Ledesma during this time but if Steve Hernandez is correct that this Pedro Ledezma is the ancestor of the De La Torre Ledesma in Los Altos de Jalisco and if the claim that he descends from El Comendador is correct then I have found his parents and ancestors. The family trees that other genealogists have made for his ancestors are riddled with mistakes, just like Juan Pantoja Portocarrero ancestry and Toribio Hernandezs grandfathers ancestry. I don't want to post their parents without showing the correct ancestral lines for many more generations. In the book that I am writing, I provide evidence for the correct lines, and provide stories to go with many of these ancestors. The book is at least a year away as I continue to find important information. I had previously said that I would finally publish this summer but I continue to find little pieces of information that i want to add. One of his ancestors is arguably the greatest knight that ever lived
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Hello! I was wondering how the book is going, since I'm very interested in the de La Torre Ledesma line. That line is both on my mother and father's tree and I'm stuck in Pedro de Ledesma.
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I still have nt finished my book and for good reason. I keep finding bits of information to add. I just recently found a record showing Pedro Ledesmas mother in a dispute over an inheritance where some of the other people listed in the dispute are members of Hernan Cortez’s immediate family. So here is another family connection amongst the conquistadors.
Rick A. Ricci
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Two Conquistador Pedro Ledesma