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I think I made another royal connection for you Ornelas, Vásquez de BAca (The New Mexico Lineage). After long research (Not really just abt 3 hours.) An ancestor of the Vasquez de BAca is Leonor de Orozco and an ancestor of Ornelas is Petronila de Orozco are sister as we know. They descend from ELvira Tovar y Enriquez, according to the New Mexico Genealogical Society but they said Elvira's parents are unknown but she is a close relative to the Dukes of Frias and Marquesses of Berlanaga. I found a Couple in the same time peiord that of Juan Tovar, Lord of Berlanga and Constanza Enriquez. If these are Elvira's parents, not only would she be a cousin to the Dukes of Frias but this would also answer a long question that the society has had. Im pretty positive that these are her parents but no proof. She also has Jewish ancestry back to King David! -Any suggestons? -Daniel Méndez del Camino

Published by chilerey54 – Mon, 2008-03-31 15:45 | Permalink

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Hola Primo, I need to compare notes and correct some ,tell me if I'm wrong .
Juana Alcala (married to Miguel Vasquez de Lara in 1659):
Parents-Lucas or Juan lucas Alcala y Rojas Or Orosco and Juana Mendoza y Garibay(married in 1620)
I have no knowledge of Juan Lucas Alcala Parents.
Parents of Juana Mendoza Mendoza y Garibay:-Julio or Juan de La Mora y Mendoza and Francisca Garibay.
I need correction and trying to fit what you mentioned below.
Also how does the jewish line fit in ?
Ronnie> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> From: mormonboy74@hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 15:28:12 -0700> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] I think I made a Connection> > > I think I made another royal connection for you Ornelas, Vásquez de BAca (The New Mexico Lineage). After long research (Not really just abt 3 hours.) An ancestor of the Vasquez de BAca is Leonor de Orozco and an ancestor of Ornelas is Petronila de Orozco are sister as we know. They descend from ELvira Tovar y Enriquez, according

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Hello Ronnie, all info is correct Ill send you what ive discovered about the nobility and jewish of this family in another email. for noe heres some history and their family and lucas' parents and genealogy. Hope it will extend a lot! -Daniel

VÁSQUEZ de LARA
The maternal ancestry of José Vásquez de Lara (ONMF: 306) is the only New Mexico lineage that extends as far back as the early 1400s in Spain. This lineage is based on the work of Mexican genealogists Mariano González Leal, José Ignacio Dávila Garibi, and Jesús Amaya. However, it was the research of Ophelia Márquez that provided the critical information to link the family of José Vásquez de Lara with the genealogical research of González Leal, Dávila Garibi, and Amaya.
As documented by Chávez, José Vásquez de Lara was a native of the Villa de los Lagos (aka Santa María de los Lagos) in Nueva Galicia, a son of Miguel Vásquez de Lara and Juana de Alcalá (ONMF: 306). He was married in 1694 with María Magdalena Baca. Their daughter

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Hello Everyone,
I am new and doing research on Alcala from Tepatitlan, Jalostotitlan and Pegueros. I see you have extensive research on the Orozco family that includes Alcalas. Are we related in any way?
Thanks!
Gabriela
> From: mormonboy74@hotmail.com> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:21:12 -0700> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] I think I made a Connection-Orosco> > > Hello Ronnie, all info is correct Ill send you what ive discovered about the nobility and jewish of this family in another email. for noe heres some history and their family and lucas' parents and genealogy. Hope it will extend a lot! -Daniel> > VÁSQUEZ de LARA> The maternal ancestry of José Vásquez de Lara (ONMF: 306) is the only New Mexico lineage that extends as far back as the early 1400s in Spain. This lineage is based on the work of Mexican genealogists Mariano González Leal, José Ignacio Dávila Garibi, and Jesús Amaya. However, it was the research of Ophelia Márquez that provided the

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Hello, Again!
I've been w/o my laptop for 2 weeks and am finding that you are using names that get me very excited! My great grandmother on my Dad's father's side was Maria Andrea ALCALA, but I can only find this name on my great-grandfather's baptismal certificate(?). My Dad's family came from Tamaulipas, but I can't find an Alcala anywhere at all in Tamps,.... maybe cause she wasn't from there! I've been unable to find any info on my Dad's side beyond the great-grandparents, so you've given me hope that there may be more info on Alcala in the Jalisco area! I'm happy, THANKS!!!

Ronald Reynoso chilerey@msn.com wrote:

Hola Primo, I need to compare notes and correct some ,tell me if I'm wrong .
Juana Alcala (married to Miguel Vasquez de Lara in 1659):
Parents-Lucas or Juan lucas Alcala y Rojas Or Orosco and Juana Mendoza y Garibay(married in 1620)
I have no knowledge of Juan Lucas Alcala Parents.
Parents of Juana Mendoza Mendoza y Garibay:-Julio or Juan de La Mora y

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I have submitted a small file with some Alcala in it. Please check and see if you can access it
> Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 14:56:02 -0700> From: igarcia628@yahoo.com> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] I think I made a Connection-Orosco> > Hello, Again!> I've been w/o my laptop for 2 weeks and am finding that you are using names that get me very excited! My great grandmother on my Dad's father's side was Maria Andrea ALCALA, but I can only find this name on my great-grandfather's baptismal certificate(?). My Dad's family came from Tamaulipas, but I can't find an Alcala anywhere at all in Tamps,.... maybe cause she wasn't from there! I've been unable to find any info on my Dad's side beyond the great-grandparents, so you've given me hope that there may be more info on Alcala in the Jalisco area! I'm happy, THANKS!!!> > Ronald Reynoso chilerey@msn.com wrote: > > Hola Primo, I need to compare notes and correct some ,tell me if I'm wrong .> Juana Alcala

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Published by anuanes – Sun, 2008-03-30 16:45 | Permalink

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Hello,

My name is Adela Nuanes and my maiden name is Tovar. I've been waiting for
my surname to come up in these discussions and I was hoping you might have
some more information on the Tovar family. The Tovar's are from my father's
side of the family and are originally from Tepechitlan, Zacatecas. Any
information is gratefuly welcome.

Thank you,
Adela

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Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] I think I made a Connection

>
> I think I made another royal connection for you Ornelas, Vásquez de BAca
> (The New Mexico Lineage). After long research (Not really just abt 3
> hours.) An ancestor of the Vasquez de BAca is Leonor de Orozco and an
> ancestor of Ornelas is Petronila de Orozco are sister as we know. They
> descend from ELvira Tovar y Enriquez, according to the New Mexico
> Genealogical Society but they said Elvira's parents are unknown but she is
> a close relative to the Dukes of Frias

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Hello Adela, I have Tovar lineage also but they are from District of Jerez, Zacatecas Mexico and go back to Ancelmo Tovar abt 1766 and wife Maria Petra Carrillo abt 1771. Thier granddaughter Ricarda Tovar, 1826 was my direct ancestor. I have not been able to go any farther back since there are not any records to research that I know of.
Like you I am curious about the Tovar name. I have just submitted my records again to Rootsweb.com and you may want to check the Tovar surnames in my records from the District of Jerez Zacatecas Mexico. Just put in Ancelmo and you can go to the index to see what I have submitted.
good luck in your search,
Linda Castanon-Long in Everett

Adela Nuanes wrote:
Hello,

My name is Adela Nuanes and my maiden name is Tovar. I've been waiting for
my surname to come up in these discussions and I was hoping you might have
some more information on the Tovar family. The Tovar's are from my father's
side of the family and are originally from

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My great-grandfather's first wife was an Eleuteria Tov/bar--daughter of
Mauricio Tov/bar and Petra Sandov/bal--born in 1849. I think she was
born in Jerez. Her siblings were born in Tepetongo (or the other close
town that starts with a "T"). Eleuteria and C/Zenobio were married in
1864 in Jerez and had about 4 or 5 children. She died and a couple of
years later he married my great-grandmother. All the surnames and
Cenobio's first name are spelt both ways in official documentation.
Remember that fact and you'll spare yourself some heartburn.:) Marge:)
On Mar 30, 2008, at 6:51 PM, Erlinda Castanon-Long wrote:

> Hello Adela, I have Tovar lineage also but they are from District of
> Jerez, Zacatecas Mexico and go back to Ancelmo Tovar abt 1766 and wife
> Maria Petra Carrillo abt 1771. Thier granddaughter Ricarda Tovar,
> 1826 was my direct ancestor. I have not been able to go any farther
> back since there are not any records to research that I know of.
> Like you I

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