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Peggy,

Are Maria Manuela's parents, Juan Domingo RAMOS and Feliciana 
Victoria CARDENAS?

If so, here is their marriage record:

JUAN DOMINGO RAMOS
  Male
Groom's Parents:
  Father:  DIEGO DE SANTIAGO
  Mother:  BERNARDA DE CASAS
Marriages:
  Spouse:  FELICIANA VICTORIA DE CARDENAS
  Marriage:  15 FEB 1733   San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico
Bride's Parents:
  Father:  BARTHOLOME DE CARDENAS
  Mother:  CATARINA MORILLO
Messages:
 Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The 
source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage 
date.
Source Information:
 Batch No.:  Dates:  Source Call No.: 
 M604651  1720 - 1751  0443781

Here are some of their children:
+ LUIS BELTRAN CARDENAS
Gender: Male Christening: 03 NOV 1737 San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, 
Mexico 
+ MARIA DE LA CONCEPON. RAMOS CARDENAS
Gender: Female Christening: 14 FEB 1740 San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, 
Mexico 
+ CLEMENTE CARDENAS
Gender: Male Christening: 08 DEC 1747 San Luis, Colotlan

If you would like to see some of the beautiful eyes in Jalisco, where 
people are complimented for having "Ojos Tapatios", go to gdlclub.com
go the section titled : Editoriales, Especiales and and move your 
pointer down to "Ojos Tapatios," click there and you will see beautiful
"Ojos Tapatios". 



I just got back from two and a half weeks in
Mexico.

Though I did not spend them in "working" on genealogy or
historical
research, as I did have the need to spend time with my family and

decompress at the beach for some days, I did get a fair amount of
work
done.

I arrived in Guadalajara, Jalisco on Dec. 17.  I met up with
my
brothers and my younger brother's Japanese host-mother to celebrate

our birthdays in Tlaquepaque with mariachis.  The singer had lived in

Japan for three years and sang to my brother's

Thank you Gloria!!

 

-----Original Message-----
From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
glo Sandoval-Fuentes
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 11:37 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Ojos Tapatios

Janet,

You are both BEAUTIFUL, and tus ojos tanbien!

gloria



               ~~glo~~







From: "janet iglesias" 
Reply-To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Ojos Tapatios
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 09:49:23 -0800




Hi Rosalinda:

I have attached pictures of my daughter and myself. We always hear that we
have "Ojos Tapatios".

 

~Janet Iglesias

Murrieta, Ca.


From: "John Gonzalez" 1gnzlz@...>
Reply-To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
To: 
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Ojos Tapatios
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 09:39:43 -0800





 

From: lareina2@...
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:40 PM
Subject: [ranchos] Ojos Tapatios


Hi folks,
 

Janet,

You are both BEAUTIFUL, and tus ojos tanbien!

gloria



              ~~glo~~







From: "janet iglesias" 
Reply-To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Ojos Tapatios
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 09:49:23 -0800




Hi Rosalinda:

I have attached pictures of my daughter and myself. We always hear that we
have "Ojos Tapatios".

 

~Janet Iglesias

Murrieta, Ca.


From: "John Gonzalez" 1gnzlz@...>
Reply-To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
To: 
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Ojos Tapatios
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 09:39:43 -0800





 

From: lareina2@...
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:40 PM
Subject: [ranchos] Ojos Tapatios


Hi folks,
 

Within a month's time, I have heard two people mention this phrase about my
eyes.  I have never heard this description before, so to hear it twice in a
month was surprising....

 
 
 
Hi Rosalinda:
 

Here is a small sample of  " Ojos Tapatios". 

Joseph:

There is software that extracts out Yahoo Group messages into mbox 
format, which can then be read by a number of other software programs:

http://www.tt-solutions.com/en/products/yahoo2mbox/

I think there are also commercial (need to buy software) solutions that 
may do the same.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:
>
> 
> I have a concern and was hoping some of the more tech savy members of 
> the group could help me with. I don't know how to "save" the message 
> archives to another location short of opening each individual message 
> and copying and pasting them into another document. I don't want to 
do 
> that and would like to know if anyone has any ideas on how to save 
them 
> in a faster fluent procedure?
> 
> thanks,
> 
> joseph
>

Susana:

If you read my previous message you will note that there are in fact 
a great deal of records at the Inmaculada parrish in Jerez that are 
not filmed... Leonardo de la Torre Berumen has transcribed a great 
deal of these records but filming them would also be valuable.  I 
don't know if it is going to be possible given the condition that 
they are in and according to Leonardo make them difficult to film and 
is perhaps the reason why they passed them up in the first place.

There are also records in Colotlan that are not filmed.  The priest 
there is obstinate about not allowing access so it would require 
permission from the bishop in Zacatecas.  If you are interested in 
pushing this forward, I would be willing to help.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Susana Leniski"  
wrote:
>
> To anyone researching in La Inmaculada/Jerez, Zacatecas
> 
> I have some information that can be valuable for anyone researching 
in Jerez
> 
> 1. THE CASE OF THE 20-25 PAGES OF

Susana:

If you read my previous message you will note that there are in fact 
a great deal of records at the Inmaculada parrish in Jerez that are 
not filmed... Leonardo de la Torre Berumen has transcribed a great 
deal of these records but filming them would also be valuable.  I 
don't know if it is going to be possible given the condition that 
they are in and according to Leonardo make them difficult to film and 
is perhaps the reason why they passed them up in the first place.

There are also records in Colotlan that are not filmed.  The priest 
there is obstinate about not allowing access so it would require 
permission from the bishop in Zacatecas.  If you are interested in 
pushing this forward, I would be willing to help.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Susana Leniski"  
wrote:
>
> To anyone researching in La Inmaculada/Jerez, Zacatecas
> 
> I have some information that can be valuable for anyone researching 
in Jerez
> 
> 1. THE CASE OF THE 20-25 PAGES OF

Susana:

If you read my previous message you will note that there are in fact 
a great deal of records at the Inmaculada parrish in Jerez that are 
not filmed... Leonardo de la Torre Berumen has transcribed a great 
deal of these records but filming them would also be valuable.  I 
don't know if it is going to be possible given the condition that 
they are in and according to Leonardo make them difficult to film and 
is perhaps the reason why they passed them up in the first place.

There are also records in Colotlan that are not filmed.  The priest 
there is obstinate about not allowing access so it would require 
permission from the bishop in Zacatecas.  If you are interested in 
pushing this forward, I would be willing to help.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Susana Leniski"  
wrote:
>
> To anyone researching in La Inmaculada/Jerez, Zacatecas
> 
> I have some information that can be valuable for anyone researching 
in Jerez
> 
> 1. THE CASE OF THE 20-25 PAGES OF

Oh, how wonderful this report is! Thank you for sharing this! We need to keep this in our rancho archives!!!! I'm willing to send a small donation for republication of Mr. Valdes Salazar's work to keep it alive for us, despite my not having any connection with Totatiche. Why not have him look into the Lulu publications that Joseph, our fearless leader, told us about in one of his messages. It would save Mr. Valdes lots of moola! Marge:)



On Jan 5, 2006, at 10:50 AM, Arturo Ramos wrote:

I just got back from two and a half weeks in Mexico.



Though I did not spend them in "working" on genealogy or historical

research, as I did have the need to spend time with my family and

decompress at the beach for some days, I did get a fair amount of

work done.



I arrived in Guadalajara, Jalisco on Dec. 17.  I met up with my

brothers and my younger brother's Japanese host-mother to celebrate

our birthdays in Tlaquepaque with mariachis.  The singer had lived in

Japan for three years

I just got back from two and a half weeks in Mexico.

Though I did not spend them in "working" on genealogy or historical 
research, as I did have the need to spend time with my family and 
decompress at the beach for some days, I did get a fair amount of 
work done.

I arrived in Guadalajara, Jalisco on Dec. 17.  I met up with my 
brothers and my younger brother's Japanese host-mother to celebrate 
our birthdays in Tlaquepaque with mariachis.  The singer had lived in 
Japan for three years and sang to my brother's Japanese host mother 
in Japanese.

The next day I attempted to visit the Archivos Publicos del Estado de 
Jalisco.  They were closed early because of staff shortages due to 
the holidays.

I headed to Villa Guerrero, Jalisco on Dec. 19 (where my parents have 
now built a beautiful house on the edge of town where they plan to 
live half-time).  The next day, we travelled to Bolanos (a mining 
town dating to circa 1550) at the bottom of the canyon by the same 
name.  The town

It is true.  
The first thing I noticed when I first met my wife
(she is from Los Altos) was her big beautiful brown
eyes.  But of course, most Mexican women have
beautiful eyes.

Alberto Duarte Prieto
Santa Maria, California

--- "Janet V. Iglesias" 
wrote:

> Hi Rosalinda:
>  
> "Ojos Tapatios" is a great complement. I've been
> always told the same thing
> & yes my family is from Jalisco. It is suppose to
> mean that you have very
> large beautiful eyes. The woman from Jalisco are
> known to have the large
> eyes (it's a trademark). . . and I don't know why
> but it tends to be true if
> you have "Ojos Tapatios" you must descend from
> Jalisco.
>  
>  
> ~Janet
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> lareina2@...
> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:40 PM
> To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ranchos] Ojos Tapatios
> 
> 
> Hi folks,
>  
> Within a month's time, I have heard two people
> mention this

My abuelita, who was from Jerez, used to say "El que come y canta, loco se levanta." That was because when I would visit her and have breakfast with her, I would sing or hum and wiggle around on my seat. I remember asking my tia Carmen, what that meant. I realize now, as an adult, that I needed to have it explained to me, so I could process the information. I do recall "understanding" what my abuelita said. Marge:)



On Jan 5, 2006, at 5:32 AM, Joseph Puentes wrote:

I was wondering if anyone has "sayings" or "poetry" that is

inspirational that originates in or from Jalisco, Zacatecas, Chihuahua

and Aguascalientes? [See that wasn't too hard to make on topic was it???]



joseph



This is very cool.



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1- Get focused - who you really are

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3- Be creative - stop following the rules

4- Be creative - start scaring yourself

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