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Regarding Coat of Arms:
I understand to use a "Coat of Arms" emblem, one has
to have proof that he/she is a direct descendant of a
person that was entitled to use that Coat of Arms.

I've seen a number of Coat of Arms for both sides of
my family, but I do not have proof that any one of my
families were ever entitled to use or claim them.

Alberto.




--- Joseph Puentes  wrote:

> 
> 
> Victor Villarreal wrote:
> 
> >Esperanza,
> >
> >Well, it is not so much that this conversation
> would be boring to other members as it is that it
> could easily drift away from the main area of
> interest of the Ranchos group.  Anyway, just to
> reply to your previous post, here are a couple of
> comments.
> >
> >I still don't have a full picture of all the
> historical events related to the first Villarreales
> in "the New Spain".  I know the first Villarreales
> that settled in Northeast Mexico were involved in
> mining for precious metals along with other
> historical characters as

http://www.kporterfield.com/aicttw/articles/disease.html

I was listening to a book on tape this morning at work that is called
"Demon in the Freezer" its discusses SmallPox a lot and there was a
small part talking about how in 1520 one Panfilo de Narvaez landed close
to Veracruz and how one of his black slaves came on shore with smallpox
and started an epidemic that spread into the heart of the Aztec empire
and eventually made its way all the way to the Inca's in SA. The author
was making the point that Smallpox "softened" up the continent very
likely giving opportunities that wouldn't have been there without its
devastating effects.

joseph

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De Narvaez, Panfilo , (1470-1528) Spanish adventurer, born in
Valladolid in 1470; died in Florida in November, 1528.
Panfilo De Narvaez went in his youth to South America, served under
several adventurers, and in 1510 was sent by Juan de Esquivel, governor
of Jamaica, to the relief of Alonso de Ojeda, who had

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Did you find these children?for:  Jalisco, Mexico
      Father: Antonio Del Real, Mother: Rufina Rodriques
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   International Genealogical Index / Mexico - 5  
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                 1. MARIA GUADALUPE REAL RODRIQUES - International Genealogical Index 
                  Gender: Female Christening: 05 AUG 1742 San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico 
                 
                 2. JUAN YGNACIO REAL RODRIGUES - International Genealogical Index 
                  Gender: Male Christening: 11 NOV 1759 San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico 
                 
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                  Gender: Female

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Esperanza and Victor,
It is very interesting to me to hear the history of other members. 

My grandparents were from the surrounding area of Jalostotitlán, Jalisco and out of 9 children 5 moved to Sacramento, California in the early 1950's.  Two died in Mexico and the remaining 2 moved here within the last 10 years.  There are so many people that live in Sacramento that are from the Jalostotitlan and Teocaltitan de Guadalupe area.  There is also some who chose to live in the Los Angeles area.  I guess they all moved down here because of jobs and word of mouth by their relatives or neighbors.

Maria Elena Uhlenburg-Gutierrez

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: latina1955@... 
  To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 4:51 PM
  Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: Victor


  Hi Victor

Alicia
I would spend your time at SLC in making copies of those records you
found on the IGI.  If you ONLY go after the extracted documents that
you know are on the films, you should have no problem getting thru
the 47 rolls of film you have.  Then any extra time can be used by
going thru a couple of films slowly.  If your list of documents to
find is listed

Author 	Tuck, Jim.

Title The holy war in Los Altos : a regional analysis of Mexico's
Cristero rebellion / Jim Tuck.

Publication info. 	Tucson, Arizona : University of Arizona Press, c1982.
Location 	Call No. 	Status
  UTPA Stacks (2nd West) 	 F1234 .T9 1982     	  AVAILABLE
  UTPA Stacks (2nd West) 	 F1234 .T9 1982  c.2  	  AVAILABLE
Description 	xiii, 230 p. : ill. ; 24 cm.
Bibliography 	Bibliography: p. 209-219.
Note 	Includes index.
Local note 	TPNA 15.95
	TPNA 15.95 c.2
Subject 	Cristero Rebellion, 1926-1929.
	Jalisco (Mexico) -- History.
ISBN 	0816507791
===========================
Author 	Robe, Stanley Linn, 1915- comp.

Title Mexican tales and legends from Los Altos / Introd.,
classification, and notes by Stanley L. Robe.

Publication info. 	Berkeley : University of California Press, 1970.
Location 	Call No. 	Status
  UTPA Stacks (2nd West) 	 GR115 .R58     	  AVAILABLE
  UTPA Stacks (2nd West) 	 GR115 .R58  c.2  	  AVAILABLE
Description 	578 p. : ill., ports. ; 27 cm

Interesting observation, Alberto.

I agree that in the last couple of centuries migration has been 
predominantly northward.  And the trend still continues!

In my previous post, I was refering to that time when the Spaniards 
were still exploring the unknown territories of New Spain.  That 
usually meant that the first to find valuable lands, mines, etc. 
would have a claim to the same.  This was the greatest incentive for 
the explorers.  At that time they just took a lucky chance in 
deciding what direction to go and hope for the best.

Victor


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Alberto Duarte  
wrote:
> The progression and movement of the Mexican people  to
> the north and other parts:
> 
> Have you all noticed the progression and movement of
> the Mexican people, which includes all of us, in the
> last couple of hundred years?
> 
> My records show that my people were in Zacatecas for
> 350+ years until my grandfather moved from Zacatecas
> to Mapimi, Durango, about

The progression and movement of the Mexican people  to
the north and other parts:

Have you all noticed the progression and movement of
the Mexican people, which includes all of us, in the
last couple of hundred years?

My records show that my people were in Zacatecas for
350+ years until my grandfather moved from Zacatecas
to Mapimi, Durango, about 1910. He probably moved
because of the wars, famine, and the need to make a
decent living for a large family of ten children.

>From Mapimi, my widow grandmother in 1924 went to El
Paso, Texas, taking all 5 children by herself. The
other five all died.

My dad left El Paso for Los Angeles in 1942 because of
the lack of opportunities for himself and his
children. Teas was a hard place to make a living for
anyone Mexican blood at that time.

I left Los Angeles in 1987 for Santa Maria,
California, because we could not take the high crime
rate and deterioration of our community.

My third oldest daughter left for New York city to
break in to

Esperanza,

Well, it is not so much that this conversation would be boring to other members as it is that it could easily drift away from the main area of interest of the Ranchos group.  Anyway, just to reply to your previous post, here are a couple of comments.

I still don't have a full picture of all the historical events related to the first Villarreales in "the New Spain".  I know the first Villarreales that settled in Northeast Mexico were involved in mining for precious metals along with other historical characters as Bernabé de las Casas and Martin de Zavala.  I believe the first mining sites in Mexico were located in the center of the country and there was a gradual movement in search of new sites in practically every direction.  Many of the settlers of Nuevo Leon had already passed thru Guanajuato, San Luis Potosi, Zacatecas, etc. on their way up north.  I believe such is the case for Diego de Villarreal.

As you know, there are some Villarreales among the passenger list of

Your family story is not boring. Please continue on.

Alberto.

--- latina1955@... wrote:

> Hi Victor,
> 
> I didn't realize the Villarreales were connected to
> Zacatecas, although  I
> have read some history on Zacatecas and came across
> the Villarreal name  quite
> often, particularly during the time of civil war - I
> thought the  original one
> settled in Oaxaca.  I have not been able to make a
> connection  with Danny,
> although the area that he mentions in Nuevo Leon
> (the place settled  by the
> original settlers

Your family story is not boring. Please continue on.

Alberto.

--- latina1955@... wrote:

> Hi Victor,
>  
> I didn't realize the Villarreales were connected to
> Zacatecas, although  I 
> have read some history on Zacatecas and came across
> the Villarreal name  quite 
> often, particularly during the time of civil war - I
> thought the  original one 
> settled in Oaxaca.  I have not been able to make a
> connection  with Danny, 
> although the area that he mentions in Nuevo Leon
> (the place settled  by the 
> original settlers there - Hidalgo, Nuevo Leon) is
> where my father's  grandfather 
> was from.  It appears that the family moved to
> Coahuila around  1830 - not 
> really sure why, but I suspect it had to do with the
> Independence and  "free" 
> territory to those willing to fight the hostile
> Apaches who lived in  the area.  My 
> grandmother also happens to be a Villarreal, but her
>  relatives are from Cd 
> Victoria area.  I still have a great aunt who lives 
> in

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "aajay1073"  wrote:
> 
> Victor,
> 
> Here is a brother to your Catarina Serrano.
> 
> MIGUEL SERRANO
>   
>
Angie,

Thank you so much for the record.  I'll keep the list of Serrano's names that you're looking for at hand.  I'd be happy to return you the favor!

Victor

Hello Esperanza,

So glad to read your message and to know that you're also a Villarreal! Is that your paternal surname?

I still haven't been able to bridge beyond the 6th generation but I haven't exhausted all resources yet.  What I know for sure is that most of my Villarreals are in Nuevo Leon.  How about you?

About Danny, I've contacted him on a couple of occasions via e-mail but still haven't found the common link (if there is one.)  By the way, I have already sent in a DNA sample to be analyzed, but the results won't be back until early March, I hope.  Chances are that most of the Villarreals in Nuevo León are related.  Although I know that even Diego Villarreal, who is one of the earliest Villarreales in Nuevo León originally came from Mazapil, Zacatecas.  So it is possible that there might be a connection between the northeastern and the southern Villarreales.

Just one more thing about Danny; I think he has done a good job encouraging many to do their genealogies and his