Ranchos, Group Reunion

That was a great experience to meet with Joseph and Figen during their California trip.
 
Rich, Kitty, Helyn and myself had met once previously and Helynm and I meet regularly at her Fremont FHC. It is always a pleasure to meet and learn from those who are more experienced than myself.
 
Many of us who live in California or for that matter anyone who lives anywhere, be it the US or Mexico could communicate with each other when any of us is taking a trip to some area where other members reside or visit. It's great to belong to an on-line group but nothing takes the place of face to face visits with each other.
 
Josie Treviño graciously invited me to join them in SLC this September but unfortunately I can't make it in September and she also suggested that we could have a group meeting next year when Legado Latino holds it meeting and conference in SLC. I think that's a great idea and a great opportunity to meet and learn from serious geneaologists. If we begin to plan for next year

Ken Alva's Genealogy

[[[If you can get into the other parts of ranchos (links, files, photos,
etc.) but can't get into the this area please contact me]]]


go to the links area

go to AAAAA Genealogies

go to Ken Alva and click on "Jose Alonso de ALBA"

click on "Ken Alva (KMAlva@...)" and choose to open in "Word"


here you will see his genealogy for these geographical locations:

Encarnacion de Diaz, Lagos de Moreno, Santa Maria de los Lagos, San
Miguel de los Alba, Jalostitlan, Teocaltiche, and Ojuelos,
Jalisco/Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes


[[[Note to Ken (great job). . .did I forget any locations? Sorry but
Ojuelos is in Jalisco right???]]]




Marge Vallazza's Jan 2001 Somos Primos Article

When I met him in November 2000, he did not. However, his friend and kinsman (and mine, too), Leonardo de la Torre Berumen has email (just look in Somos Primos). Leonardo has written many articles for SP. Marge:)

On Aug 20, 2005, at 4:31 PM, Alberto Duarte wrote:


Marge:

Does Mr. Bernardo del Hoyo Calzado have an email

address? I've read his book for a copy of years, and I

also want to the Dolores cemetery when I visited Jerez

a couple of years ago.



Regards.



Alberto Duarte Prieto.

Santa Maria, California









--- Joseph Puentes wrote:



>

> A Personal Research Adventure of a Scots-Irish

> Mexican American

>

>                                                  by

> Marge Vallazza

>

> For most of my life, I knew little of my personal

> Mexican heritage. I

> knew a lot about Mexico and its history but because

> my Scots mother was

> our primary caretaker, I knew and cared more about

> my Scots and

> Anglo-Irish heritage than my Hispanic one. After

Villa de Leon Mexico

Erlinda,

My impression is that Villa de León in your records refers to what is
now the city of León, Guanajuato.  

http://www.leongto.com.mx/secciones/historia/historia_colonial.htm

You can locate it in the neighboring state of Jalisco, right across
the border from Lagos de Moreno.

HIH

Victor


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Erlinda Castanon-Long"
 wrote:
> I'm doing records from Zapotlan El Grande Jalisco and am finding 
> families from Villa de Leon Mexico.. any idea where that is?  I 
> checked the wonderful location dictionary but found nothing. The time 
> period is early to mid 1700's.  The families are Losa y Linares, 
> Sanches de la Mejorada and Lopes de Lara and Alcaraz.
> 
> any help appreciated
> Linda in Wa.



California Reunion



Santos Luna wrote:

Ahhhh Joseph....You are sooo kind....saying that I was part of the
normal group.


pues seguro que si. . .of course you are normal, maybe a little more
normal that the rest.


Glad you did not talk to some of my relatives prior to our meeting.

Fearless leader....you, and Figen are absolutely...
wonderful... delightful....awesome...

Our encounter was as if we were long lost relatives... having a reunion.


Thank you, and Figen for taking the time from your busy schedule to
meet with us.

Your "wanta be cousin" ....Helyn

I really think we are through our Castañeda's but time will tell.


XXXXXXXXXXX

thanks for the kisses but how about the hugs

OOOOOOOOOOOOOO more back to you.

joseph

ps: my wife took the photo and I couldn't find the one that had her in
it. everybody in the picture is listed from left to right:


HelynCastanedaKittyCortezAliciaCarrilloJosephPuentesRichCortezL-R_08_01_2005.jpg

JPEG image

Villa de Leon Mexico

I'm doing records from Zapotlan El Grande Jalisco and am finding 
families from Villa de Leon Mexico.. any idea where that is?  I 
checked the wonderful location dictionary but found nothing. The time 
period is early to mid 1700's.  The families are Losa y Linares, 
Sanches de la Mejorada and Lopes de Lara and Alcaraz.

any help appreciated
Linda in Wa.



California Reunion

Ahhhh Joseph....You are sooo kind....saying that I was part of the normal group. Glad you did not talk to some of my relatives prior to our meeting.
Fearless leader....you, and Figen are absolutely... wonderful... delightful....awesome...
Our encounter was as if we were long lost relatives... having a reunion.
 
Thank you, and Figen for taking the time from your busy schedule to meet with us.
Your "wanta be cousin" ....Helyn
XXXXXXXXXXX
I know I just recently in my trip to CA was uplifted greatly by meeting four members of the Ranchos group: Rich and Kitty Cortez, Alicia Carrillo, and Helyn Sparkman de Castaneda. It was truly a nice nice experience meeting some I had known for over 2 years but only on the internet. What was cool is that they are just normal people and not weird like everyone says when you tell them you met up with someone you met on the internet.

all that said I am all in favor of you and Mickey organizing a meetup in ELS (el lago de Sal).

thanks,

joseph

 


Yahoo

Research Helps

Hello Jonathan,

Could you please elaborate a little on your question.  Are you
currently developing research tools on your own or do you mean tools
at familysearch, etc.?

Victor


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "mexicanfhr"  wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
> 
>  
> 
> I wanted ask, the Ranchos, Juarez, and Mexicanfhr groups,  what
> research helps or tools, would you all like to see developed.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jonathan



Research Helps

How about lists of archives in the US that have materials on our target
area.


for example I know UC Berkeley has an extensive amount of information
Duke has many books but I wouldn't call it extensive
I would guess there are other store houses of info

also how about some kind of resources about the major archives in
Mexico. I know there is great resources in Guadalajara but if I was
going there tomorrow I wouldn't know where to look and what type of
materials to look for. I also know that there is great resources in
Mexico City that are probably duplicates of information that is in
certain archives in Spain. Doesn't the Mexico City archive(s) have
certain parts of the Archivo de Indias. I'd love to know what needs to
be ordered from Spain and what could be accessed in Mexico City.


Well I'm just rambling. . .maybe others have more doable ideas,

thanks for asking the question,

joseph


mexicanfhr wrote:

Hello Everyone,



I wanted ask, the Ranchos, Juarez, and Mexicanfhr

QUESTION

cual programa tienes? el PAF o el Family Tree Maker o Word?

ponlo en Family Tree Maker si lo tienes y haga un "Genealogy Report"
mandamelo en el "format" de .doc o de .rtf


si no lo tienes mandamelo en un documento de "Word."

has mirado los arboles de los miembros en los "Files?" si no miralos
para que miras unos emjemplos de los arboles de otros en el grupo.


gracias,

joseph

lili pinzon wrote:

DEAR MAKAS: I NEED TO KNOW HOW TO SUBMMIT MY GENEALOGICAL TREE AS IT IS

STILL IN PROCESS, TELL ME STEPS, AS I AM A SIX YEAR OLD BEFORE A
COMPUTER.


                       THOUSAND THANK YOU






Yahoo! Groups Links













QUESTION

DEAR MAKAS: I NEED TO KNOW HOW TO SUBMMIT MY GENEALOGICAL TREE AS IT IS

STILL IN PROCESS, TELL ME STEPS, AS I AM A SIX YEAR OLD BEFORE A 
COMPUTER.

                        THOUSAND THANK YOU



a thousand thanks to Randy Koch

GOD BLESS HIM FOR SUCH A SENTIMENT, DEAR CENTINEL OF HISTORY THOUGHTS

MADE MY HART STRUGGLE, PARDON MY ENGLISH IF ANY ERRORS AND OF COURSE 
THANK YOU A LOT MACKAS



Research Helps

Hello Everyone,

 

I wanted ask, the Ranchos, Juarez, and Mexicanfhr groups,  what
research helps or tools, would you all like to see developed.

 

Thanks,

Jonathan 




Hispanic Conference in Salt Lake City

I'm interested in going next year.  Please keep me
abreast.

Thank you.

Alberto Duarte Prieto.
Santa Maria, California

--- Joseph Puentes  wrote:

> 
> 
> Josie T. Trevino wrote:
> 
> > Hi Alicia!
> >
> > The info you describe below is
> incorrect......Mickey Garcia was a 
> > speaker two years ago at this conference and that
> is when Mimi Lozano 
> > received her award.  Mickey will not be a speaker
> this year.....in 
> > fact, Mickey and I will be in Salt Lake City doing
> research in 
> > September.....  Hopefully, next year we will make
> it for the 
> > conference.  I do know one thing, you have to make
> reservations WAY 
> > AHEAD in order to get a room, especially if you
> want to stay at the 
> > hotel right next to the FHC library, the Best
> Western Plaza. 
> >
> > Hey.....I just had a thought.!!!....Why don't we
> (Ranchos members and 
> > any other interested parties)  think about going
> to Salt Lake City 
> > NEXT YEAR for the conference?  When Mickey and

Marge Vallazza's Jan 2001 Somos Primos Article

Marge:
Does Mr. Bernardo del Hoyo Calzado have an email
address? I've read his book for a copy of years, and I
also want to the Dolores cemetery when I visited Jerez
a couple of years ago.

Regards.

Alberto Duarte Prieto.
Santa Maria, California




--- Joseph Puentes  wrote:

> 
> A Personal Research Adventure of a Scots-Irish
> Mexican American 
> 
>                                                  by
> Marge Vallazza
> 
> For most of my life, I knew little of my personal
> Mexican heritage. I 
> knew a lot about Mexico and its history but because
> my Scots mother was 
> our primary caretaker, I knew and cared more about
> my Scots and 
> Anglo-Irish heritage than my Hispanic one. After my
> trip to Mexico last
> week, it's a neck to neck race. 
> 
> I had been looking forward to this trip for a long
> time. Its 
> preparations including hours of research at the
> local Family History 
> Center here in Overland Park; several hundred
> dollars worth of books, 
> microfilm

Hispanic Conference in Salt Lake City

For those of you, who what to goto conference in Salt Lake.  It is
well worth your time and money.  They usually have a good speaker.
On a side note,  Mickey's talk two years ago, was really great.

Plus there usually are classes that are taught by:  George Ryskamp,
Lyman Platt, & Ruth Schirmacher (these are some of the regulars). 
Also Mimi Lozano has taught some years.  The remainder of the classes
are taught by people, from the LDS Family History department, and
other members of the Legado Latino.

The last two years, they have given out a disc called the "Latina
America Resource disc",  which has all the research helps that the LDS
 Church has for Latin America, in English, Portuguese and Spanish.

And they only charge $10.00, for admission.

Their website, is currently down.  It comes and goes, especially
around October, when the have their conference.

If anyone, wants to come.  I be glad to come and see you.

Thanks,
Jonathan
--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Josie T. Trevino"

Marge Vallazza's Jan 2001 Somos Primos Article



A Personal Research Adventure of a
Scots-Irish Mexican American 



                                                
by Marge Vallazza

For most of my life, I knew little of my
personal Mexican heritage. I knew a lot about Mexico and its history
but because my Scots mother was our primary caretaker, I knew and cared
more about my Scots and Anglo-Irish heritage than my Hispanic one.
After my trip to Mexico last

week, it's a neck to neck race. 



I had been looking forward to this trip for a long time. Its
preparations including hours of research at the local Family History
Center here in Overland Park; several hundred dollars worth of books,
microfilm copies, xerox copies; extensive communication with travel
agents, international airlines, Mexican national bus lines, Mexican
archivists, and the like. Why? All because my maiden name had been the
equivalent of Mary Smith, my father's mother's maiden name was the

equivalent of Jones, her mother-in-law's was the equivalent of
Brown

El Teul Films



was that a typo? You meant Tlaltenango rather than Colotlan, right? I'd
love for there to be a hidden Colotlan Padron on that film, believe me!




Padrones, 1754-1887

Authors

Iglesia Católica (Tlaltenango de Sánchez Román, Zacatecas) (Main
Author)

Notes

Microfilme de manuscritos en el archivo de la parroquia.

Church census records from Tlaltenango de Sánchez Román, Zacatecas,
Mexico.

Text in Spanish.

Subjects

Mexico, Zacatecas, Tlaltenango de Sánchez Román - Census

Format

Manuscript (On Film)

Language

Spanish

Publication

Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmados por The Genealogical Society of
Utah, 1978

Physical

5 rollos de microfilme ; 35 mm.

Film Notes

Note - Location [Film]

Padrones 1754-1780 - 
FHL INTL Film [ 1219415 ]

Padrones 1780, 1800-1819 - 
FHL INTL Film [ 1219416 ]

Padrones 1820-1829 - 
VAULT INTL Film [ 1219417 ]

Padrones 1830-1839 - 
VAULT INTL Film [ 1219418 ]

Padrones 1848-1887 - 
FHL INTL Film [ 1219419 ]

© 2002
Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights

Hispanic Conference in Salt Lake City





Josie T. Trevino wrote:

Hi
Alicia!

The
info you describe below is incorrect......Mickey Garcia was a speaker two
years ago
at this conference and that is when Mimi Lozano received
her award.  Mickey will not be a speaker this year.....in fact, Mickey
and I will be in Salt Lake City doing research in September..... 
Hopefully, next year we will make it for the conference.  I do know one
thing, you have to make reservations WAY AHEAD in order to get a room,
especially if you want to stay at the hotel right next to the FHC
library, the Best Western Plaza. 

Hey.....I
just had a thought.!!!....Why don't we (Ranchos members and any other
interested parties)  think about going to Salt Lake City NEXT YEAR for
the conference?  When Mickey and I went two years ago it was great! 
Our friend, Ruth Gomez Schirmacher, the Librarian and Latin American
Consultant in the International Reference Dept., was our contact and
made the speaker arrangements with Mickey that year.....I

Hispanic Conference in Salt Lake City

Thanks Josie,
 
Oops, I guess I was looking at an old posting on their website. I got so excited that I neglected to pay close attention to the year.
 
I'm game for next year. I can definitely put it on my calendar and start saving for the trip, hope some of the other members will also consider going. I guess that means I would have to carry your luggage? (tee hee).
 
Gracias...........Alicia Avelar, Olmos, Aguayo, Ruiz de Carrillo
 


"Josie T. Trevino" wrote:

Hi Alicia!

The info you describe below is incorrect......Mickey Garcia was a speaker two years ago at this conference and that is when Mimi Lozano received her award.  Mickey will not be a speaker this year.....in fact, Mickey and I will be in Salt Lake City doing research in September.....  Hopefully, next year we will make it for the conference.  I do know one thing, you have to make reservations WAY AHEAD in order to get a room, especially if you want to stay at the hotel right next to the FHC library, the

saludo a Armando J. Lopez spainirelandengland@...

Hola, querida Lili.

que tal? espero te ecuentras en muy buena salud!

Si, gracias por tu respuesta.

Yo tambien epero que podramos compartir datos.

Mis antepasasados, son los LOPEZ de ELIZALDE, quien leegaron a lagos de Moreno, en 1585, de Tolosa, Guipuzcoa, Espana.

Te mando saludos, y abrazos.

Despues te escribo mas.

Por ahora, pasatela bien, Y ten un buen fin de semana.

Adios por ahora.

Sinceramente,

Armando Jonatan Lopez de Elizalde.

lili pinzon wrote:

hola, que bueno que estas aqui y que bueno que yo encontre este grupo,
espero podamos compartir datos, sobre todo si estamos relacionados,
hasta luego.




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Hispanic Conference in Salt Lake City

Hi
Alicia!

The info you describe
below is incorrect......Mickey Garcia was a speaker two years ago at this
conference and that is when Mimi Lozano received her award.  Mickey will
not be a speaker this year.....in fact, Mickey and I will be in Salt Lake City
doing research in September.....  Hopefully, next year we will make it for
the conference.  I do know one thing, you have to make reservations WAY
AHEAD in order to get a room, especially if you want to stay at the hotel right
next to the FHC library, the Best Western Plaza. 

Hey.....I just had a
thought.!!!....Why don't we (Ranchos members and any other interested parties)
 think about going to Salt Lake City NEXT YEAR for the conference? 
When Mickey and I went two years ago it was great!  Our friend, Ruth Gomez
Schirmacher, the Librarian and Latin American Consultant in the International
Reference Dept., was our contact and made the speaker arrangements with Mickey
that year.....I went along and carried Mickey's