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It would be very cool if members of the group were interested in
travelling to Mex. to visit some of these areas and get more
information. I wanted to go very badly last year, but found that I
would have to go it alone.  Is there anyone else out there who is in
this situation?

It would be very cool if members of the group were interested in 
travelling to Mex. to visit some of these areas and get more 
information. I wanted to go very badly last year, but found that I 
would have to go it alone.  Is there anyone else out there who is in 
this situation?

I know this website is for Cuba but there are a lot of resources
available through this site namely people and groups that have studied
this topic in depth and might be a good source to lead you to the
information you seek. If you find more info please post it to ranchos.

thanks,

joseph

http://www.cubagenweb.org/e-pass.htm

I would like to know too.

Alberto.
--- yolanda medina-perez 
wrote:

> 
> Here I go again with the questions but no one that I
> have spoken to 
> has been able to help thus far.  I understand that
> there were at 
> least two ports of entry in Mexico back in the early
> 1800's, one was 
> in Vera Cruz and the other was Tampico. Quien Sabe? 
> Certainly there 
> must have been a trail of paper work MANIFESTS
> PASSENGER LISTS 
> BIRTHS AND DEATHS for the ships. BUT WHERE ARE THEY?
> I understand 
> that there is a site in Spain where passengers would
> 
> register "Indice de las Indias"  How does one go
> about getting 
> information at this site, where do I begin? or is
> there a place in 
> Mexico????
> 
> Yolanda
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Here I go again with the questions but no one that I have spoken to 
has been able to help thus far.  I understand that there were at 
least two ports of entry in Mexico back in the early 1800's, one was 
in Vera Cruz and the other was Tampico. Quien Sabe?  Certainly there 
must have been a trail of paper work MANIFESTS PASSENGER LISTS 
BIRTHS AND DEATHS for the ships. BUT WHERE ARE THEY? I understand 
that there is a site in Spain where passengers would 
register "Indice de las Indias"  How does one go about getting 
information at this site, where do I begin? or is there a place in 
Mexico????

Yolanda

Well I guess everyone is noticing that I've discoved the UC Berkeley
library's online catalog. UC Berkeley has a fabulous collect of
materials for all three of our target area states and Mexico in general.
I'd suggest you all spend sometime cruising around their catalog.

Again if any of you feel that your inbox is starting to get cluttered
then either go to Yahoo and change your subsciption from individual
emails to the Digest version or let me know and I'll do it for you.

I wished I lived close enough to go to the Bancroft Library often. I
would go there and to SLC as often as I could.

joseph
=================================

Title Por las haciendas de Jalisco / Olivia Campos de Gallo ; prologo
de Jose Maria Muria.

  	Author 	Campos de Gallo, Olivia.
  	Edition 	1a ed.

Place/Publisher Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico : Universidad de
Guadalajara,

  	Date 	1998.
  	Description 	120 p. : ill. ; 23 cm.
  	Notes 	Includes bibliographical references (p. 118).
  	Subject

Well I don't want to burden any one person but how about your particular
areas of research. . .aren't you doing Mazapil and Sombrerete?

I was hoping that if just a few of you all would do maybe just one
slowly that "File" in Ranchos2 would start to fill in.

thanks,

Jonathan

ps: and thanks for the kind offer to the group.


mexicanfhr wrote:

Joseph,

Which batch numbers are you wanting?

Also, if anyone needs a lookup at the Family History Library, in Salt
Lake, I usually am there once or twice a month.

Thanks,
Jonathan

Alice,



I discussed genes with another genealogy group (Pureto Rican) earlier today. I am simply copying it and forwarding it to you and the group. It is self-explanatory. Phenotype (what it looks like) and genotype (what the genes are) are two different things.



Respectfully,



Ed Serros









Ron and Ivonne,



As advertised, the mtDNA test is DNA check on your mother’s mother’s mother’s....mother’s ancestry. Recently, even the most “European” (read white) of South American countries, Argentina, has shown that approximately 90% of mtDNA is Indian. The paternal, Y-DNA, is largely European. The inference is clear. The male Europeans came and the Native American Indian females bore. Yes, there are a lot of reasons for this: conquest, infectious disease, food, social issue, etc.



Your mtDNA may be Indian (four major types in all the Americas) and may not necessarily answer the questions you may have. I believe that there are on-going studies in Puerto Rico

Joseph,

Which batch numbers are you wanting? 

Also, if anyone needs a lookup at the Family History Library, in Salt
Lake, I usually am there once or twice a month.

Thanks,
Jonathan

Note:
A couple of years ago I was told by a genealogist from
SHARR, not to pay much attention to Mexican birth
records whenever race was noted. Such birth record
notes (race) were just part of the racism that existed
at that time, and had no meaning to the make up of the
person.

I doubt if any one us can say what our ethnic make up
is, I know I cannot.

We are just good people!

Alberto Duarte Prieto.
--- marge vallazza wrote:

> I have a copy of a microfilmed birth record of one
> of my ancestresses in Jerez, Zacatecas, where she is
> listed as a mestiza. In Mitra Sacrada, by Luz
> Montejano Hilton

If anyone would care to submit or send me the batch numbers for your
particular research area I think it would help fill out those that are
currently in the file area of Ranchos2.

Any volunteers? If just one or two of you would come forward that would
be better than none.

thanks,

joseph

ps: If anyone is getting overwhelmed by the recent increase in messages
from the group I just wanted to say that putting your subscription into
the Digest mode is an option. That way instead of getting each
individual email in real time you would get one large email with all of
that days discussion included. The latter makes it easier to keep things
together, but you'll be about a day behind in the conversation. Just an
option

pps: Does anyone here ever get to UC Berkeley for their research? If so
can you contact me off list. . .makas@... thanks

Rosalinda,

I found two more children of Antonio de Real (son of Juan Martin)  
which are not listed in the email you sent me.  Are you aware of them?

Well, here they are.  Thanks for all your help.

THOMAS ANASTACIO REAL RODRIGUES  
Event(s): 
 Birth:  
 Christening:  28 DEC 1752   San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico 
 Death:  
 Burial:  
Parents: 
  Father:  ANTONIO DEL REAL  Family 
  Mother:  RUPHINA RODRIGUES     
Messages: 
 Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the 
record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by 
the birth or christening date.  
Source Information: 
 Batch No.:  Dates:  Source Call No.:  Type:  Printout Call No.:  
Type:  
 C602862  1744 - 1755  0443672   Film  NONE  
--------------------------------------------------
MARIA EUFEMIA REAL RODRIGUES  
Event(s): 
 Birth:  
 Christening:  27 APR 1755   San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico 
 Death:  
 Burial:  
Parents: 
  Father:  ANTONIO DEL REAL  Family 
  Mother:

Rosalinda,

Thank you so much for your information about Juan Martin Suares del 
Real.  

The data I have about Pedro José Suares del Real (possible gradson of 
Juan Martin)is derived only from the marriage record of José Diego 
Cayetano (my 3rd great grandfather).  

This is so interesting!  Are those records on your email contained in 
the FamilySearch databases?

I'm going to take a real close look at each record and then I'll get 
back to you.

Thanks again!

Victor