I heard the stories by my grandmother of when the men of "Che Che Campos" attacked our town in 1912. They took money and sometimes women along with them. When they passed through the townspeople would hide their money.
Este 2014 se cumplirán los primeros 100 años en que se conmemora el acto revolucionario que dio origen a cambios en nuestra sociedad. Existirán algun libro que mencione nombres de algunos participante villistas?
Sigo buscando a un personaje de nombre Juan Torres Rosales que tenia 16 años de edad y cuyos padres eran Luciano Torres y Merced Rosales. Murio a los 97 años en San Pedro Piedra Groda, Zacatecas.
Puede alguien indicarme donde localizarlo los mas antes posible. Se cree que era nacido en Tepezalá, Aguascalientes en 1898
i've tried finding death records for some people on my family tree and have had no luck. for example i know that my double great grandpa felix lopez must have died after 1906 but before 1926, but i can't seem to find his death records. i'm also looking for some of his kids' death records since some of them died from a plague during that time.
i'm also trying to look for a death record for a triple great grandfather named nabor ceballos. supposedly he lived to around a hundred years old. since nabor got married for the first time in 1858, his birth year would most likely be at around 1840. if it's true that he lived to a hundred, he would have died sometime during the late 1930' and early 1940's.
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Dear Somos Primos Readers:
Thank you all for your contributions of personal cuentos, historical tidbits, and great assortment of articles. It is always an adventure opening up my mail.
You will notice a new category in this issue, Heritage Projects, directly under the United States category.
It is my hope that if you are starting a heritage related project, such as a family reunion, locating and identifying a historic site, promoting the contributions of an individual or organization that you will send the information along and let other know what you are doing. We would like to share your efforts with readers. You may be starting a project which could encourage others, or even attract assistance in fulfilling your goal.
As I was preparing the issue, I received a call from Tony Zapata, sharing some good news. Tony had completed arrangements on a building in Los Angeles for handicapped veterans, to named after Guy Gabaldon, WWII hero. The dedication of the building will be November 6th. I put Tony in touch with Steve Rubin, producer of the documentary East L.A. Marine, the true story of Guy Gabaldon. Steve will be assisting in the text for the plaque and press releases, etc.
Please let us know what you are doing in your community to share the historic contributions of your primos or heroes.
The front page in the August issue is a 1980 poster by the well-known work of artist Ignacio Gomez. The poster is a reminder that Hispanic Heritage Month is from September 15 to October 15. Hopefully, you will find some ways in which you can celebrate your Latino heritage.
Let me suggest that you request your City Council to make a public proclamation recognizing Hispanic Heritage Month. Call your mayor's office and ask how it is done in your city.
The NCLR conference and Family Expo was outstanding. You will see some photos and comments in this issue and also in the upcoming September issue.
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Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 2:23 AM
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Subject: Coronado & Spanish Exploration of the Southwest
Hello,
I would like to invite you to attend a lecture on Coronado & Spanish Exploration of the Southwest. If you would like to learn more about the mark this expedition made on the American Southwest then this presentation is for you. There will be a presentation on the subject on August 22 at 3:30 PM, through the University of New Mexico Continuing Education program.
Here is a link to sign up for the presentation:
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Hello fellow members,
I'm so glad to have found this group for our little area in Nueva Galicia
and have enjoyed my genealogy research for some time. However, I've done
my best to trace back my family line on my own but have hit a discouraging
road block. It's time to reach out for help and hopefully other's have
followed this same family line. The references below are all from El
Sagrario, Aguascalientes.
I've researched my father's line (grandfather is GARCIA and grandmother
GONZALEZ). However, the furthest I've reached for certain is Fernando
Fermin Garzia (born El Sagrario, Aguas, 8/25/1754 and Christened 9/15/1754,
married to MARIA ANTONIA ABAD ALONZO VERNALES DE LOS YNOJOS on 3/26/1794).
However DE LOS YNOJOS confuses me because I believe (not sure) that
FERNANDO FERMIN's father was JOSEPH MANUEL GARZIA who married MARIA
ANTONIETA ALONSO DE LOS YNOJOS, on 4/16/1752. Did Fermin marry a
half-sister?
Going further back, (the rest of this line back i'm not confident) JOSEPH
MANUEL GARZIA father was CARLOS GARCIA (baptized 12/1/1705) married JUAN
ARIAS (baptized 5/3/1711) on 2/5/1729. If this information is correct, the
last (stumbling block) information I have is that CARLOS's birth parents
were JOSEPH GARCIA and JOSEPHA FERNANDEZ (Ortis?). I have no information
about dates or where Joseph and Josepha were born/married. This has been
my dead end for MONTHS!
Any assistance or guidance (or education) would GREATLY be appreciated.
I've seen success other's have had here, but have always been reluctant.
But I have nothing to lose, but everything to gain.
Thanks again and sorry for the convoluted story!
Jorge
updated my Family Tree on rootsweb.com/ This is a free website.
My Tree is called
DE LEON AND CARLOS FAMILY TREE under "Jalisco Families"
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=jalisco_fa…
Jose Carlos de Leon
This link is very helpful in reading records in Spanish.
https://familyhistory.byu.edu/Downloads/Spanish_Extraction_Guide/Defaul…
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2. Segovia Bapt Cert (mayangrl@sonic.net)
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4. Re: Need help reading baptismal cert (IChristopher)
5. Esteban de Aguiar y Quiroa (IChristopher)
6. Re: Need help reading baptismal cert (Alice Blake)
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(Daniel Alejandro M?ndez de Torres y Camino)
8. Re: Marcos de Moctezuma
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 22:48:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: mayangrl@sonic.net
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Need help reading baptismal cert
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Hi,
I'm trying to decipher the child's maternal grandfather's name. Something Rodriguez. Also the rancho.
It's the one on the bottom right. Jose Margarito.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15049-20544-78?cc=1804458&wc…
Thanks.
Laura Gonzalez
Hola Members y Primos , I am a bit lost. I Have a
Jose Munoz married to Margarita Ramirez feb.03 1823,San Juan de los lagos
Matrimonios de San Juan de los Lagos -Year 1797-1823,Image # 604.
Jose Munoz-Parents -Ygnacio Munoz and Ygnacia Hurtado.
I cannot find Ygnacio Munoz and Ygnacia Hurtados acta de Matrimonio de San Miguel el Alto of Jan. 09,1786 . I am trying to find out there parents. I have a (Ygnacio Munoz) An Antonio Munoz de Nava and Gertrudis Ramirez de Hermosillo or(same person) Paula Gertrudis Garcia de Hermosillo. (Ygnacia Hurtado ) I have Cayetano Hurtado and Maria Munoz.
Now I also have for Ygnacia Hurtado Parents-Julio Cayetano Hurtado and Maria de los Dolores Maltide Macias-Valdez. Don't know which any of this info is correct Margarita Ramirez (the wife of Jose Munoz ) Parents -Quirono or Quilino Ramirez and Maria Ynes Pedroza.-These two individuals came out in Guadalajara Dispensas-Film # 168095 Image # 1682,but film is not there to investigate.I hope I have made myself understand able cause I barely understand .Ronnie
Here is a message I received from a person looking for their living
relatives. If anyone would like to help this person please email me and Ill
put you both in contact with each other: joseph@nuestrosranchos.org
My father passed away and my mother took his ashes to his hometown in
Guadalajara Mexico. She was going to take me there but she passed away
suddenly and now I don't know how to get there to visit his side of the
family. I need help to find them.
Aquí hay un mensaje que he recibido de una persona buscando a sus parientes
vivos. Si alguien quiere ayudar a esta persona por favor envíeme un correo
electrónico y voy a poner a ambos en contacto: joseph@nuestrosranchos.org
Falleció mi padre y mi madre llevó sus cenizas a su ciudad natal en
Guadalajara México. Ella iba a llevarme allá pero falleció repentinamente y
ahora no sé cómo llegar a visitar el lado de la familia de mi padre.
Necesito ayuda en ayarlos.
joseph
I also have lots of family Guadalajara . I visit Guadalajara twice a year. I'm sure my family and I will be willing to help!
Ed Luna
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Subject: Anthropological Genetic Genealogy: The Rus and the Rurik Dynasty
Hello,
I would like to invite you to attend a lecture on Anthropological Genetic Genealogy: The Rus and the Rurik Dynasty. If you would like to learn more about the mark this ancient civilization made on the world then this presentation is for you. There will be a presentation on the subject on August 1 at 3:30 PM, through the University of New Mexico Osher program. The class number is 19489.
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Deseo saber si alguien sabe si además de Lope Ruiz de Esparza y sus padres vinieron otros Ruiz de Esparza de España en los años siguientes y siglos siguientes.
Saludos, José Ruiz de Esparza
BUANAS DIAS A TODOS
tengos muchas dudas
salvador esparza se caso con franca xaviera de luna en 1734
el hijo de diego de esparza y maria de la torre
y este diego hijo de ignacio ruiz de esparza y de( ines garcia (pendiente )
y este ignacio ruiz de esparza hijo de martin ruiz de esparza y de (francisca sotelo jaen) (pendiente)
y este martin es hijo de martin ruiz de esparza hermano de lorenza ruiz de esparza casada con luis de tiscareño.
el punto es que nose si estas son las parejas correctas:
salvador de esparza y franca xaviera de luna matrimonio 1734
diego ruiz de esparza y maria de la torre
ignacio ruiz de esparza y ines garcia matrimonio 1685
martin ruiz de esparza y francisca sotelo jaen matrimonio 1658 aguascalientes
martin ruiz de esparza y maria lopez de elizalde
es correcto esta informacion?
otro punto en esta dispensa se mencionan que martin ruiz de esparza (el hijo)tenia un hermano llamado nicolas lopez de elizalde y este a margarita lopez de elizalde casada con juan delgado y a su vez a gabriela delgado
la pregunta nicolas lopez de elizalde es hijo de martin ruiz de esparza y de maria lopez de elizalde? o es hijo de juan de luebana?
Como se ha hablado mucho en el foro sobre los descendientes de Moctezuma, les paso esta información que me llegó:
Conversando con nuestros investigadores 2014
El Archivo General de la Nación le invita a la presentación del libro "La última princesa mexica", escrito por María de los Ángeles Fernanda Olivera Belmar, descendiente del emperador Moctezuma II.
Esta obra cuenta la vida de la hija de Moctezuma, Teucichpoch Ichcaxocotl (bautizada como Ysabel Moctezuma), quien a los 23 años contaba con cinco matrimonios.
La autora, se apoyo en documentos fidedignos para su visión histórica, narrada por Ysabel, del imperio mexica y la Nueva España.
Jueves 24 de julio, 17:00 horas.
Registrarse previamente por teléfono o correo electrónico:
Tel 5133 9900, exts. 19420 y 19306
cromeroa (arroba) agn.gob.mx
Archivo General de la Nación
Eduardo Molina 113, esquina con Albañiles, (entrada por Héroe de Nacozari), colonia Penitenciaría Ampliación, delegación Venustiano Carranza, C. P. 15350, México, D. F.
Can anyone help in locating -Isidro Mercado- this is what I know of him.
He is probably related to the Mercado's that married in to the Orendain family of Magdalena Jalisco and that happened to own the Hacienda de San Andres.
This I suspect because I found a brother and a sister Mercado married to a brother and a sister Orendain.
Maria Luiza Mercado Topete married Joaquin Orendain Camacho on dec. 20 1819 (they are the parents of Zenon Orendain Mercado) Im not sure if he was the owner of the hacienda or there is another Zenon Orendain born before him, what I do know is that one of Maria Luizas and Joaquin Orendain's children were born in the Hacienda.
Jose German Feliciano Mercado Topete married Dolores Orendain Camacho Aug 30 1835
I have a verbal account from his grandson Jose Mercado Avila who passed away last year at 94 yrs of age and this is what he told me:
That Isidro lived and worked in the Hacienda de San Andres, he was a labrador.
That he was married to a Maria Ramos.
That he had a son by the name of Ciro Mercado who was born in 1880 (Jose's father).
I have looked in all the towns surrounding Magdalena with no luck and the only thing
I have been able to find on his son Ciro is a 1930 census of Guadalajara, by that
time he was married to a Francisca Avila of Magdalena and had several children.
This is what the census states:
Francisca Avila-F- 40 yrs.
Nicandro- M-20 yrs.
Julia- F-18 yrs.
Salvador- M-15 yrs.
*Jose- M-13 yrs.
Pedro- M-10 yrs.
Arcadio- M-13 yrs.
Jose Maria- M-10 yrs.
Hello,
I have a question regarding the parents of my ancestors Joseph Antonio Lopez and Casimira Antonia Romo. They were married on 03 May 1758 in Teocaltiche Jalisco. Joseph Antonio Lopez is son of Cristobal Lopes and Teresa Peres, and Casimira Antonia Romo is daughter of Francisco Romo and Juana Diaz. I was looking through family search and I found two couples that seem to be my ancestors (parents of Casimria Romo) Francisco Romo and Juana Diaz. I found the baptism record of Lazaro Romo Diaz christenising on 26 Feb 1748 in Teocaltiche,Jalisco son of Francisco Romo and Juana Dias. Then I also found a baptism record of Antonia Leandra Romo Dias christenising on 06 Apr 1742 in El Sagrario, Aguascalientes,Mexico daughter of Francisco Xavier Romo de Vibar and Juana Dias Montañes de Sandi. I am wondering if Francisco Romo and Juana Dias are the same Francisco Xavier Romo de Vibar and Juana Dias Montañes de Sandi. Are any of you aware of this couple and know the names of their children? If so, do any of you know the ancestry of this Francisco Xavier Romo de Vibar and Juana Dias Montañes de Sandi? The dates line up.
I also found a dispensa in the Diocesis of Guadalajara of Cristobal Lopez Velarde and Teresa Perez from Teocaltiche on 05 Jan 1728. I am wondering if this couple are the parents of Joseph Antonio Lopez. The dates also line up.
Dispensa Cristobal Lopez Velarde and Teresa Perez:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18410-36981-97?cc=1874591&wc…
I would sincerely appreciate your help!
Thank you!
Roberto Rosales Villalpando Jr.
Riverside,CA
Volumes 5, 6, and 7 of "Catálogo de pasajeros a Indias durante los siglos XVI, XVII y XVIII" can be downloaded from Family Search. They are searchable pdf files.
Lope Ruis de Esparza is named in volume 7, in the year 1593. The entry is as follows:
2.633. LOPE RUIZ DE ESPARZA, natural de Pamplona,
soltero, hijo de Lope Ruiz de Esparza y de Ana Díaz de Eguino, a
Nueva España como criado de don Enrique de Maleón.—8 febrero.
Arturo Ramos posted an image (in 2007) of the actual document at http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/16295.
Volume 3 has also been digitized, but it cannot be downloaded. Volumes 1, 2 and 3 have also been microfilmed.
George Fulton
Saludos Edgar!
De hecho yo busco el mismo documento. Yo soy descendiente de Lope también
y, aunque hay muchos que dicen que Petronila desciende de linaje
Moctezuma...hasta
hoy no he encontrado tel documento.
Pero...es possible que tengo datos sobre los padres de Pedro Alonso de los
Hinojos.
Buscaré los datos este fin de semana.
Hasta pronto,
Connie
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 6:09 PM, wrote:
buenos dias a todos los miembros
alguien sabe quienes son los padres de Pedro Alonso de los Hinojos ?
casado con Ana Magdalena Dominguez medel el 3 Mayo 1620 en Sierra de pinos zacatecas.
LES AGRADEZCO LA ATENCION PRESTADA
EXCELENTE DIA A TODOS
SALUDOS
When responding to a Research Digest please change the subject line and
delete irrelevant messages in the body of the email, as I have done, or
simply start a new email and send it the email address you received it from
such as research......
That is great that you have tested more than one close family member. Many
people see very different results when they do that. The results still
should not be take literally for the reasons I mentioned in my previous
email.
Thank you,
Armando
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Art De Leon
wrote:
> thank you Armando, my DNA results are based on my mother sister DNA test,
> myself and my youngest sister. we all seem to reflect the basic findings I
> talked above. As to your question, whether I want to share my DNA, the
> answer is yes provided I am assured that by sharing you mean amongst other
> members who have had their DNA tested.
>
The time period of the FamilyTreeDNA myOrigins results can go back as far
10,000 years per a post at
http://dna-explained.com/2014/05/11/family-tree-dna-releases-myorigins/
National Geographic states that it can go back further. They use similar
equipment and the markers are compared with living people so it isn't a
case over one piece of equipment or technology over another. It has to do
with interpretation of the data
Iberians have 37% Northern European and 48% Mediterranean and 13% Southwest
Asian per National Geographic and they have the following to say about
Iberians: "This reference population is based on samples collected from
people native to Spain and Portugal. The 48% Mediterranean and 13%
Southwest Asian percentages reflect the strong influence of
agriculturalists from the Fertile Crescent in the Middle East, who arrived
here more than 8,000 years ago. The 37% Northern European component likely
comes from the pre-agricultural population of Europe—the earliest settlers,
who arrived more than 35,000 years ago during the Upper Paleolithic period.
Today, this component predominates in northern European populations, while
the Mediterranean component is more common in southern Europe."
https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/reference-populations/
Here is an assessment of DNA obtained from ancient remains of people that
had lived in the Mesolithic and the Neolithic. The Mesolithic are more
Northern European like and the Neolithic are more Mediterranean like. This
agrees with a portion of what FTDNA and National Geographic says about the
change between the Mesolithic and the Neolithic.
http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2012/10/assessment-of-ancient-european-dna…
This PCA plot that includes the ancient remains along with modern people is
really interesting also.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fc2W-6tR-HA/Urigqts3hwI/AAAAAAAAJbg/hqZiV1TOG…
we all seem to assume that we are descendant of Spain, but just like my DNA, it reveal that my blood line has a minor percentage of an Iberian marker and more with northern and eastern Europe and Eastern European Jewish, along with my native American marker. A number of my antepasados are listed as españoles or español natural, I wonder who amongst them was of jewish descent.
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When responding to a Research Digest please change the subject line and
delete irrelevant messages in the body of the email or simply start a new
email and send it to the email address you received it from such as
research......
The option to edit the subject line might be hidden so you might have to
search around for how to do that. Creating a new email might be easier for
some.
I put this in the announcements since it will sit there longer and
hopefully more people will see the message.
Thank you for your understanding
Armando
