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There are 2 ways, to find the site.
 
#1 goto my website: http://members.pcu.net/Hispanic_Genealogy/,
in the links section under Mexico, look for INEGI - Mexcio Census.
 
#2 goto directly the INEGI site: http://www.inegi.gob.mx/inegi/default.asp.
 
Once there, go  to the "Accesos directos"
area,  and click on "
XII Censo General de Población y Vivienda,
2000 ", under the "Base de
datos" area, click on "
Tabulados básicos
",  then under the "Poblacion" area, choose
" Localidades por municipio, y su
distribución según tamaño de localidad ".  I am
giving these details, so you know where, to go.  But you still can explore
the other options, on the site.  Here is the direct url: http://www.inegi.gob.mx/est/librerias/tabulados.asp?tabulado=tab_po01b&c=705.
 
Thanks,
Jonathan Walker
1140 North 230 West
Logan,
Utah 84341
 
Experienced Hispanic Genealogist - More
Info:
http://members.pcu.net/Hispanic_Genealogy/
 
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where did you find this information? It looks great as far as finding
the names of all the Ranchos that are in existence. Can you share the
URL with the group?



thanks,



joseph







Jonathan Walker wrote:

Alice,
 
There is a town or rancho, that does,
belong to the San Juan de los Lagos municipio.  According to the 2000
census, it has a population of 13 people and only 1 habitat.
 
I am sending a copy of the 2000
census results, for Jalisco.
 
I hope that it helps.
 
thanks,
Jonathan Walker

1140 North 230 West

Logan, Utah 84341
 
Experienced Hispanic Genealogist -
More Info:

http://members.pcu.net/Hispanic_Genealogy/
 
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Is there anyone researching San Juan de Los Lagos/Jalostotitlan
who

knows anything about El Papalote?  My hunch is that it's a rancho,

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Alice,
 
There is a town or rancho, that does, belong to
the San Juan de los Lagos municipio.  According to the 2000 census, it has
a population of 13 people and only 1 habitat.
 
I am sending a copy of the 2000 census results,
for Jalisco.
 
I hope that it helps.
 
thanks,
Jonathan Walker
1140 North 230 West
Logan,
Utah 84341
 
Experienced Hispanic Genealogist - More
Info:
http://members.pcu.net/Hispanic_Genealogy/
 
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Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 6:02
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Subject: [ranchos] el papalote

Is there anyone researching San Juan de Los
Lagos/Jalostotitlan who
knows anything about El Papalote?  My hunch
is that it's a rancho,
and I'm curious whether a map of ranchos in that
area is available
and if resources exist to help us learn their
history.

Any help is appreciated and I apologize if this has been
covered
before.  I'm often overwhelmed with the amount of information
that
c
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Is there anyone researching San Juan de Los Lagos/Jalostotitlan who 
knows anything about El Papalote?  My hunch is that it's a rancho, 
and I'm curious whether a map of ranchos in that area is available 
and if resources exist to help us learn their history.

Any help is appreciated and I apologize if this has been covered 
before.  I'm often overwhelmed with the amount of information that 
comes our way.

Alice

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Jonathan,
Thanks for your offer and I would be very happy if you
could look up one person for me.  I would like to get a copy of the
marriage certificate information for the following persons.  This branch of
my family is not as clear as other branches.
 
marriage's in 1881 - FHL INTL Film (215521 item
3)
 
Tranquilino Gutierrez and Maria Guadalupe
Jimenez
 
Marriage Date:  26 May 1881,
Jalostotitlan, Jalisco, Mexico
 
Thanks and God Bless,
Maria Uhlenburg-Gutierrez
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Trip

After, a question from Joseph, I wanted to
clarify, my earlier post. 
 
If you just want a copy, of the
record e-mailed, to you.  There will be no charge, for the
lookup.  But if you want a paper copy or a disc, sent to you.  My
usual fee of $15.00 per record, applies.
 
So, once again, I'll be in Salt Lake
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After, a question from Joseph, I wanted to
clarify, my earlier post. 

 

If you just want a copy, of the
record e-mailed, to you.  There will be no charge, for the
lookup.  But if you want a paper copy or a disc, sent to you.  My
usual fee of $15.00 per record, applies.

 

So, once again, I'll be in Salt Lake on the 8th
of May.  And if anyone needs a record lookup, let me know.

 

Thanks,

Jonathan Walker
1140 North 230 West
Logan,
Utah 84341

 
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Dispensas Matrimoniales

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Steven,
You are right about Eligia Martin's birth year should be
1855, as she was married at 15 years of age (Per her marriage
certificate).  She married her husband Evaritsto Ramirez on February 2,
1870.  Also, Eligia Martin was baptised on the 5th of December, 1855, in
San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco.
 
That's all for now and thank you very much for your help. 
 
Maria
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 I have been availing myself of the various marriage dispensations
that are archived in the Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara.  The Sagrada Mitra
is the central archive for the Archdiocese of Guadalajara (AG).  The AG
at one point encompassed all the territory as widespread as Texas, California,
Durango, Chihuahua, Zacatecas, Nayarit, Aguascalientes, Colima, and of course
Jalisco.  It is for the pueblos and ranchos
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That is the way I feel.  I have discovered so much, and I have written it down.  I have shared my information with the family, and I find myself now in a position that everyone is sending me photos, stories, and stuff.  I am loving it!
 
I too feel that I am in a race against time.

Joseph Puentes wrote:

well yes I am interested if I have any Jewish blood in me. but mainly I'm wanting to see if I might be related to others in the FamilyTreeDNA Mexican Surname project or to anyone in their database in general. I also have strong suspicions I'm related to a few people in the group and would love it if they were to join the project so we'd know for sure and maybe it would motivate us in how we persue our research.

I'm also wanting to get several of my relatives to take the test just to establish our genes for future generations to compare to.

My whole thing about this genealogy "thing" is to do as much work as I can before I die. I want to leave things as "tidy" as I can so

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New Search Engine: Amazon

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this search engine is part of the Google system but not as thorough. but
it has that added feature of "look inside the book" try it and see. Add
a term like "jalisco" to the search then after the results come up look
to the right and click on the "look insde the book" option and you get
books that have that search parameter in the book.


http://a9.com/

joseph
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Dispensas Matrimoniales

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Steven,



thanks so much for the explanation. I'm sure that this information if
diligently utilized will result in many of us advancing our genealogies
significantly. I've looked at one of these films for the 1819 period
and saw the possibility of finding a gold mine of information.



I'm in the process of getting ready for a trip to DC to see an art
exhibition at the National Gallery of Art on the Mayas and a a trip to
the Library of Congress and possibly to NARA. Any one of those deserves
a month long visit so spending partial days at each might prove to be
frustrating so we'll see how it goes. I said all that only to say that
I have several questions about this subject but don't have the time to
ask them now. In the next week or so I'll get my thoughts together and
see if we can get the group involved in a discussion on this very very
important source of information. In the meantime this subject is on the
floor and has been opened for discussion. I'm sure many of you are just
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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ranchos 
group.

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  Description : Hernández Gamiño Dispensation - 25 March 1799 

You can access this file at the URL

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 I have been availing myself of the various marriage dispensations that are archived in the Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara.  The Sagrada Mitra is the central archive for the Archdiocese of Guadalajara (AG).  The AG at one point encompassed all the territory as widespread as Texas, California, Durango, Chihuahua, Zacatecas, Nayarit, Aguascalientes, Colima, and of course Jalisco.  It is for the pueblos and ranchos of Jalisco and Aguascalientes that the valuable marriage dispensations have been the most useful.  I have already seen and analyzed dispensas from 1799, 1800, 1802, 1805, 1806, 1807, 1808, 1809, 1810, 1811, 1812, 1823, and 1825.  I'm working on filling in the gaps to maximize their effectiveness and not let any dispensa slip through the cracks. I already have dispensas from Arandas (aft 1794), Atotonilco el Alto (aft 1794), Ayo el Chico (aft 1794), Jalos, Tepa, San Juan de los Lagos, Lagos de Moreno, Mexticacán, Teocaltiche, Zapotlanejo, Cuquio, Encarnación, Aguascalientes
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Cool about your brother. I wish I knew him better as all that computer
stuff sounds great. Anyway mandale un que tal from me.



as for the procedure its very painless. Some morning you don't eat or
drink and immediately take this scraper and vigoriously scrape the
inside of your cheek. After about a minute you take the "residue"
that's on the scraper and insert the tip and all in the collection vial
and push and the whole tip gets injected into the solution. You cap it
and wait a few hours and do it again making sure you haven't eaten for
an hour or so before the other collection. Details are on the website
http://www.familytreedna.com/ they have a nice set of tutorial videos
and give info on the male/female testing question.



and yes I'll let you all know what my results are,



joseph







Irma GomezLucero wrote:

Hello Joseph,
    Please keep us up to date on your
results.  I've been interested in this myself, but I had thought that
it could only be done with samples
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DNA Testing

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well yes I am interested if I have any Jewish blood in me. but mainly
I'm wanting to see if I might be related to others in the FamilyTreeDNA
Mexican Surname project or to anyone in their database in general. I
also have strong suspicions I'm related to a few people in the group
and would love it if they were to join the project so we'd know for
sure and maybe it would motivate us in how we persue our research.



I'm also wanting to get several of my relatives to take the test just
to establish our genes for future generations to compare to.



My whole thing about this genealogy "thing" is to do as much work as I
can before I die. I want to leave things as "tidy" as I can so someone
coming after me 10 generations from now will be able to pick up and
start from where I left off. I figure it can't hurt to leave as many
organized clues and "leads to further info" as possible.



joseph



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Joseph,

   What are you hoping to
find?  Any idea?  My mother and uncle (her
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How exciting, this DNA testing.  As a Villarreal, I have been following Danny's research for a long time.  I happen to know Ed Villarreal, and have not seen him for over 20 years.  You guys helped me get in touch with him again.

 

Esperanza
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Joseph,

   What are you hoping to find?  Any idea?  My mother and uncle (her bother) had DNA testing done and the results is that they have European Jewish genes.  My mother's family tree goes thru Mexico, Spain, France and Germany. 

 

Needless to say, it was an eye opener.  It also shed some light in many areas, like customs, receipts, and family oral stories.  Currently, I am researching Sephardi traditions.  So far, I have found many similarities.

 

Please keep us inform with your results.

 



Joseph Puentes wrote:

This is not directly related to our geographical areas of research but of general importance to our geneological advancement

Just wanted to share this message sent to me by George Gause on DNA testing. It is so interesting that connections were made and now they are striving to make the paper connection. I became part of the DNA testing project about 3-4 weeks ago. My results are not back yet but I'd like to encourage some of you to be part of this project as

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Hello
Joseph,
    Please keep us up to date on your
results.  I've been interested in this myself, but I had thought that it
could only be done with samples from a male member of the family.  I
had been working on my brother to do this.  He's a criminalist and has
access to computer software that tests DNA for solving crimes, etc.,  As a
test, he and other co-workers ran DNA on their blood samples--I'm sure it
wasn't as detailed as this project.  The results concluded that he had DNA
that was consistant with being descended from two individuals who had some
similar DNA.  He and the only other Hispanic had the same results. 
:)  He was told that this was common in small towns.  Of course by
then, I had already connected some of my lines.  Interesting, huh?  I
find the Jewish link interesting too being that I have a Perez
line.
    Could you give us more info on
the procedure?
Thanks, Irma  
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Hacienda de Cedros

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Saludo Cesar,



no se si estas estudiando la informacion de la iglesia LDS pero hay
mucha informacion desde Cedros:


Title

Registros parroquiales, 1700-1919

Authors

Iglesia Católica (Cedros, Zacatecas) (Main Author)

Notes

Microfilme de manuscritos el en archivo de la parroquia de San
Gregorio Magno en Mazapil.

Incluyen registros parroquiales de otros pueblos cercanos.

Algunos de los libros incluyen índice.

La capilla en Cedros es auxiliar de la parroquia de San Gregorio Magno
en Mazapil.

Parish registers of baptisms, marriages and marriage petitions, and
deaths from Cedros, Zacatecas, Mexico.

Subjects

Mexico, Zacatecas, Cedros - Church records

Format

Manuscript (On Film)

Language

Spanish

Publication

Salt Lake City : Filmado por la Sociedad Genealógica de Utah, 1980

Physical

en 10 carretes de microfilme ; 35 mm.

Film Notes

Note - Location [Film]

Bautismos 1769-1813 (incluye matrimonios, 1769-1797, y defunciones,
1769-1813) - 
FHL INTL Film [ 1164651 ]

Bautismos 1813
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This is not directly related to our geographical areas of research but
of general importance to our geneological advancement



Just wanted to share this message sent to me by George Gause on DNA
testing. It is so interesting that connections were made and now they
are striving to make the paper connection. I became part of the DNA
testing project about 3-4 weeks ago. My results are not back yet but
I'd like to encourage some of you to be part of this project as well.



joseph



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Villarreal DNA Testing Match

As
you know the
Villarreal DNA project which is part of the Mexican Dna Project has had
some
success. Danny Villarreal from Harlingen
Texas
and Ed Villarreal who lives in Chicago
have come up as exact genetic matches. This
means that we have a same common ancestor. I think the common ancestor
is Diego
de Villarreal my 9th great grandfather who was born in 1601. We are
working at
tracing Ed's family tree and are within one generation away from
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SHHAR Website

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I just wanted, to let you all know that the
SHHAR group, just updated their website.  They publish the "Somos Primos"
newsletter.

 


 

Thanks,

Jonathan Walker
1140 North 230 West
Logan,
Utah 84341

 
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Hacienda de Cedros

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Buenas Tardes Amigos:

El presente es para preguntar sobre el origen de la Hacienda de 
Cedros cercana a Mazapil, Zac., mi Bisabuela Sabina Aguirre nacio en 
esa hacienda, siendo hija de Macario Aguirre y Soledad Sanchez. 
Desafortunadamente no he encontrado ni matrimonio de Mariano y 
Soledad y menos sus actas de Bautizo.

Si alguien tiene ascendencia de esta hacienda favor de ponerse en 
contacto conmigo..

Cesar G
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