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Can anyone suggest good histories, in Spanish or English, for this region prior to 1900? Thanks!

Danny as promised here are some of the Alonsos
the first Ceria Alonso (LKM3-SXQ) daughter of Ricardo Alonso and Maria Mercedes Lopes
sister of Maria de Grasia Lopes who in her second marriage married Cruz Alonso.they are in the 1930 census in Azogueros, Salinas, SLP.

The third important Alonso is Petra Alonso 1760 (LKYS-XJK)married to Manuel Rodriguez. I hit a brick wall.

Hope you can help me. Thanks,

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I have been working on this line for many years, but hit a brick wall a couple of years ago with extending the family lines back further. Here is the marriage record that is the last of the documented information on the family:

Francisco Cervantes married Maria de Alva on 15 Oct 1614 in Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco, México. His father is listed as Pedro Cervantes, no mother listed. Her parents were listed as Alonso de Alva and Leonor de Retamosa. Anyone familiar or connected with this lines, I would be happy to exchange notes or data. You can contact me at juanik979@att.net. Thanks

Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,

Could someone help me and tell me what this says about my ancestor Lazaro
Martin Del Campo. the writing is strange on it

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18450-50462-97?cc=1874591&wc…

Danny C. Alonso

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From: mimilozano@somosprimos.com [mailto:mimilozano@somosprimos.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 1:15 AM
To: mimilozano@aol.com
Subject: Somos Primos November 2015

http://somosprimos.com/sp2015/spnov15/spnov15.htm

Dear Primos, Friends, and Family:

The month of November, a wonderful reminder about what is important in
life: family and friends.
If we are also enjoying good health, we are indeed blessed.

This year, I have even more reasons to be grateful; an important west coast heritage project has successfully come together and resulted in a Unit of Study which will enlarge historic understanding of the Spanish/Mexican colonizers in a more positive, inclusive manner.

Historically, the interrelationships between the early California native tribes and the Spanish colonizers in California has not been presented with respect for both sides.

Demeaning the natives and demonizing the Spanish clearly reinforced the American Manifest Destiny perspective of California as an uncivilized wilderness in need and deserving of invasion.

Debuting November 5th at an event at the Heritage Museum of Orange County is a 4th Grade Unit of Study prepared by Santa Ana Unified School District, CA, Common Core Curriculum specialists, Marta Moyer and Jennifer Wood:

California Bilingual Constitution, 1849.

Big Idea (Enduring Understanding) : This is the goal . .
Native Californians, Californios, and newly arriving immigrants joined together in giving structure and shape to California.
Essential Questions: Children will be discussing . . .
1. Prior to the 1850s, why did CA attract a diverse population?
2. How did internal and external factors affect the culture and economics of CA?
3. How were the contributions of the Spanish and Mexican people validated in the creation of the CA Constitution?

Among other discussions, the unit includes the traditional Spanish/Mexican laws observing women's legal and property, and anti-slave laws which proceeded those of the United Sates.

Does anyone in this group known anything of Loma Larga in Jalisco? It is near Ocotlan. It has shown up on some of the baptismal/birth records in one of my lines. I've googled it but am finding very little online about the place, so I'm hoping someone here might know more about the place or point out where I might be able to learn more. To be more specific, I'm interested in learning about the history of the place not the current situation there.
Also, during my internet surfing I ran across someone selling some historical photos of Aguascalientes. I'm sharing the link in case anyone here would be interested. As far as I can tell this is still an active offer that was posted in June (but keep in mind that my spanish is limited):http://area1.doplim.com.mx/vendo-coleccion-de-tarjetas-postales-antigua…

Cindy (Barela) Fahrbach
email: genie_research@hotmail.com
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Researching: Banegas, Barela, Cutler,
De La O, Fahrbach, Jimenez, Keller,
May, Navarro, Starnes, Utley, Ybarra
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Has anyone researched the coding notation on a Texas Manifest written years later on the same manifest? I'm curious as to what this means ( see bottom writing on attachment). I'm hoping it means my grandfather was alive all through 1954. The last record I found of him is dated 1919.

912/3 121: I - 404 lwn - San Antonio 9/15/52

I have similar coding on the bottom of my grandmother's 1919 manifest listing a date of 1932 and "Dallas".... and she was actually living in Dallas at that particular time noted.

Hi all, on the occasion of Dia De Los Muertos, the upcoming Mexican holiday, Ancestry.com is offering free access to Mexican Records until November 2, 2015. The URL is http://www.ancestry.com.mx. Good luck in your searches!

Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,

Could someone in the Forum tell me what this says about my ancestor Pedro
Macias Valades. It doesnt look like it says the same stuff as usual

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11773-148834-26?cc=1502404…

Danny C. Alonso

Simona,

Juana and Francisco's last name is López de la Rea and Ana's last name is
de Celis. You can see them here

http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/D%C3%ADaz_de_la_Huerta-5

Danny C. Alonso

Hi,
I know that great-grandfather/mother is bisabuelo/a in Spanish, but what is the proper way for saying, for example, 3rd great-grandfather? Or third time great-grandfather? (GGG-grandfather) I'd like to send a message to a potential cousin and my limited spanish vocabulary doesn't reach that far. I wasn't able to find it in my spanish-english dictionary.
Google translate is suggesting: tres veces bisabuelo. Is that correct?
Thanks in advance!

Cindy (Barela) Fahrbach
email: genie_research@hotmail.com
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Researching: Banegas, Barela, Cutler,
De La O, Fahrbach, Jimenez, Keller,
May, Navarro, Starnes, Utley, Ybarra
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Hi Cindy:

First come your padre than follow abuelo, bisabuelo, tratará-abuelo, tratará-tratara-abuelo and than add a tratara after each generation. Each tatara indicates a further generation.

Great father = abuelo
Great great father = bisabuelo
Great great great father = tratara abuelo = padre del bisabuelo
Great great great great father = tratara tatara abuelo = abuelo del bisabuelo

I read that after the tratará-abuelo follow chozno, but I think there ist a word that we mexican can generally do not understand.

Cheers,

Martha

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I came across this site. Information is based on several books published about the encomenderos y conquistadores. Anyone use this site? Thanks!

http://garyfelix.tripod.com/~GaryFelix/index1.htm

I can only make out the names of Francisco Dias de Huerta y Juana Lopez de ???
father Sebastian Dias de Huerta is married to Ana ????

And Juana's Parents are Francisco Lopez de ??? with Felipa Gutierrez de Guanajuato

The following is the IM of 1698. Does anyone know their names? I couldn't find them in Familysearch. Thanks!!

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-B7TH-G?cc=1804458&wc=3PS9-…

Encounter informacion sober Melchor Perez de la Torre ,padre de Catalina Mejia de la Torre casada con mi ancestro directo Pedro de Ledezma, Melchor Perez de la Torre ,hijo de Don Diego Perez de la Torre juez de reciedencia bajo Don Nuño de Guzman el conquistador y primer gobernador de Nueva Galicia y lo sucedio a Don Nuño de Guzman como el segundo gobernador de Nueva Galicia.
Melchor Perez de la Torre casado con su Esposa legitima Maria Alvarez, tuvieron tres hijas, Catalina Mejia de la Torre casada con Pedro de Ledezma,

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I am researching Maria de los Angeles Carvajal. Just saw her name last night, from the new records at Ancestry.Com
b ~1800-1811
d. April 3, 1873 at Hacienda Mirador, Valparaiso, Zacatecas
The death registry reports she is the daughter of Trinidad Carvajal and Andrea Rodriguez.
Married to Francisco Pasillas.

Thank you to all the indexers!

I have hit a brick wall for several months. I'm trying to find information about my 6th great grandfather Juan Antonio Gallegos (born abt 1690 - 1700) and his wife Antonia De Ribas. I have found several of their sons and daughters, including my 5th great grandfather, Miguel Deonicio Gallegos; they all were baptized in San Felipe, Guanajuato and born in La Quemada, Guanajuato and El Estano, Guanajuato. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

There is this document reference number: CONTRATACION,5360,N.81

For Pars: http://www.archivesportaleurope.net/web/guest

It has a testamento that starts Imagen 25 for Pedro Dias De Llano, who is of Asturias, that passed away at Villa De Llerenas of Sombrerete, Zacatecas, Mexico.

It is the year 1606 Pasajero de Indias documdent for "Joan De Angon" on the very top of first page there is a line which has the name of the ship he traveled on which says:

"En La Noa............"

I can make out the other words which is the name of the ship. "Noa" is the class of ship. so that is how I know right away it is talking about the name of the ship he traveled on.

Here is a copy of first page:

http://oi58.tinypic.com/rsbqeo.jpg

The link:

http://pares.mcu.es/ParesBusquedas/servlets/Control_servlet?accion=3&&t…

Reference number for Pars website: CONTRATACION,5295,N.10

http://www.archivesportaleurope.net/web/guest

I have another way to find the name of the ship where Joan De Angon traveled on.

You can do a search for "Lista De Pasajeros" and add the year 1606 in the Pars website.

When you do a search for "Lista De Pasajeros" in Pars. It gives you a number of documents that contains names of ships and lists of names of people that was on board each ship.

Maria was to marry Jose Serapia Escalante vuido de Juana Juliana Monsebais but she passed before the six month penance was given for primer grado. I couldn't read exactly how it was primer grado but it sounded as if she had had an illicit relationship before not sure with whom. Thanks for the help

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15239-47745-59?cc=1804458 : accessed 17 October 2015), Pinos > San Matías > Información matrimonial 1799 > image 10 of 608; paróquias Católicas, Zacatecas (Catholic Church parishes, Zacatecas).

Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,

I found the Will of my ancestor Beatriz de Mayorga on the Aguascalientes site and it mentions her son my direct ancestor Joseph Martin de Sotomayor. Could someone possibly tell me what it says about Joseph Martin de Sotomayor. I put giant yellow parenthesis around the passage.

Danny C. Alonso

I'm looking for the baptism of an illegitimate child that was probably
baptized in Cuquio around 1785 -1790. His name was Atanacio, son of
Felipa, and the last name might have not been given, or if given, it
was probably Peres, Rivera, Velasquez, or Gonzalez. Atanacio might
have been listed as Indio or mestizo.

It seems that the only available films are are for legitimate children
(e.g., "Bautismos 1772-1788" & "Bautismos 1789-1796").

Does anyone know illegitimate births were included in other Cuquio
church books, or perhaps went to another town for such a baptism?

Arturo G

I am trying to go further on my Chavez family. I hope any of these names sound familiar to someone out there. My ancestor Cesario Chávez married Maria Paula Lopez y Ayon in Ameca on 17 September 1800. Through his marriage certificate I found he was born around 1762 in a place called Valle de Huejucar which I found, thanks to info from other members, is the same place as today’s Calvillo, Aguascalientes. His parents are mentioned as José María Chávez and María de la Encarnación Velasco. I haven’t been able to find his baptism certificate from that time since the records from Calvillo don’t go that far back.

On the other hand, I found two baptism records from nearby Tabasco, Zacatecas who may be Cesario’s sisters:

Luisa Feliciana Chavez, born in “el puesto del Capulin”, baptized on 1 sep 1748. Her parents were Joseph Chavez and Maria Velasco.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15087-18372-13?cc=1804458&wc…

Jospha Maria Gregoria Chavez, born in “Ojo Caliente”, baptized on 27 apr 1754. Her parents were Joseph de Chavez and Ma. de la Encarnacion Velasco. Guejucar, aka Calvillo, is also mentioned in this record.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15087-19620-14?cc=1804458&wc…

I assume Ojo Caliente is the same place found near Calvillo, but what about El Capulin? Is there a location with that name in that area?

Are there other parishes in the area where I should look as well during this time period?

While browsing in Ameca, I found a marriage record for Jose Maria Chavez and Maria Rita Vitalia Alvarez on 15 may 1790. He is mentioned to be from Jalpa and born around 1768 and has the same parents as my ancestor Cesario Chavez and the two girls previously mentioned:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18566-73201-19?cc=1874591&wc…

Unfortunately, I just realized that there are no records of Jalpa for that time period, either. Am I getting out of luck? I will appreciate any advice.

Steve in NC

I am trying to go further on my Chavez family. I hope any of these names sound familiar to someone out there. My ancestor Cesario Chávez married Maria Paula Lopez y Ayon in Ameca on 17 September 1800. Through his marriage certificate I found he was born around 1762 in a place called Valle de Huejucar which I found, thanks to info from other members, is the same place as today’s Calvillo, Aguascalientes. His parents are mentioned as José María Chávez and María de la Encarnación Velasco. I haven’t been able to find his baptism certificate from that time since the records from Calvillo don’t go that far back.

On the other hand, I found two baptism records from nearby Tabasco, Zacatecas who may be Cesario’s sisters:

Luisa Feliciana Chavez, born in “el puesto del Capulin”, baptized on 1 sep 1748. Her parents were Joseph Chavez and Maria Velasco.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15087-18372-13?cc=1804458&wc…

Jospha Maria Gregoria Chavez, born in “Ojo Caliente”, baptized on 27 apr 1754. Her parents were Joseph de Chavez and Ma. de la Encarnacion Velasco. Guejucar, aka Calvillo, is also mentioned in this record.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15087-19620-14?cc=1804458&wc…

I assume Ojo Caliente is the same place found near Calvillo, but what about El Capulin? Is there a location with that name in that area?

Are there other parishes in the area where I should look as well during this time period?

While browsing in Ameca, I found a marriage record for Jose Maria Chavez and Maria Rita Vitalia Alvarez on 15 may 1790. He is mentioned to be from Jalpa and born around 1768 and has the same parents as my ancestor Cesario Chavez and the two girls previously mentioned:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18566-73201-19?cc=1874591&wc…

Unfortunately, I just realized that there are no records of Jalpa for that time period, either. Am I getting out of luck? I will appreciate any advice.

Steve in NC