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I didn't see any previous topics that discussed this guide so I hope I'm not bringing something forward that's already known to members. If it's already out there, it never hurts to remind everyone.

At over 1000 pages, The new Guide to the Archives of the Church in Spain, the first volume in the collection of «Computer Tools for Consulting Church Archives in Spain», contains a detailed and updated description of the one hundred and sixty largest ecclesiastical archives in Spain (cathedral, diocesan, monastic and convent)and also of the 23,000 parish archives belonging to the sixty seven dioceses of the Church in Spain.

Hopefully this aids those of you that may be able to trace your ancestors to Spain.

A pdf copy of the guide was too large to post and can be found at: http://www.mcu.es/archivos/docs/ArchivosIglesia.pdf

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I would like to thank a fellow nuestrorancho member who found this defunto record of my 5th Generation GGF Blas Madera who passed away in 1776 in Huejuquilla El Alto married to a second wife:

http://oi62.tinypic.com/2qai93a.jpg

Blas Madera was originally from Mezquitic, Jalisco, Mexico who got married in 1728 with Maria Theresa Avila, is the son of Joseph Madera/Josepha Josepha Basquez. In that matrimonio he was classified as a "Mestizo"

http://oi61.tinypic.com/fuynah.jpg

He had two sons: Francisco Madera (1723 - 1790) and Lazaro Madera (? - 1783) who show up at Rancho De Los Maderas of Huejuquilla. I am descended from Francisco Madera.

Maria Theresa Avila passes away and Blas Madera remarries with Maria Lorensa Magallanes in 1768 in Huejuquilla El Alto, Jalisco Mexico:

http://oi60.tinypic.com/i52eix.jpg

Then he passes away in 1776 and labeles as a "mulatto libre?" That is odd! His parents in his 1728 marriage record in Mezquitic are labeled as "espanoles"

But I don't have the baptism record of Blas Madera. In his defunto record it says he left a "testamento" also says he had 3 missas resadas and that something about "no la escucho por la distancia de su rancho donde murio."

He passed away at Rancho De Los Maderas (today San Jose De Maderas) of Huejuquilla El Alto, Jalisco, Mexico.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-42719-12370-50?cc=1937239…

Hi Cynthia,
Julián Romo de Vivar's father Baltasar Romo de Vivar is my 9th Great Grandfather. I descend from Baltasar's second wife, Francisca de Lomelín. Julián Romo de Vivar is the child of Baltasar Romo de Vivar and his first wife, Catarina Muñoz de la Barba. The record you're looking for is in the same roll of film you're in, but, image 290.
Mexico, Aguascalientes, Catholic Church Records, 1620-1962, Aguascalientes, Asunción de María, Bautismos, 1701-1719, Image 290 of 511
First one on the left:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-13033-26066-6?cc=1502404&w…
Christopher de Cuellar

Mr. Ricci there is a Hurtado de Mendoza on wikipedia married to a De Luna
and his father Diego Hurtado de Medoza was also married to a De Luna.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%8D%C3%B1igo_L%C3%B3pez_de_Mendoza_y_L…

Danny C. Alonso

Hello, has anyone researched through the records in El Sagrario? I'm searching for this entry, but I just can't seem to locate this exact record in Asuncion de Maria - the film number seems slightly off, yet in sequence with the others. I found the year and month on page 68, but there is no listing for July 23. I may just be looking in the wrong place.

Romo Munos
Mexico Baptisms
Name Julian Romo Munos
Gender Male
Christening Date 23 Jul 1703
Christening Place EL SAGRARIO,AGUASCALIENTES,AGUASCALIENTES,MEXICO
Father's Name Baltasar Romo De Vibar
Mother's Name Chatarina Munos De La Barua

"México bautismos, 1560-1950," , FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NTMZ-WVC : accessed 12 August 2015), Julian Romo Munos, 23 Jul 1703; citing EL SAGRARIO,AGUASCALIENTES,AGUASCALIENTES,MEXICO, reference ; FHL microfilm 299,424

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-13033-24070-82?cc=1502404&…

Todavia busco a mi tio Eusevio Cortez Alvarado. Proviene de Matansas Jalisco. Hermano...Refugio Cortez. Padres Antonio Cortez y Manuela Alvarado.

Vivia por Tanpico....Gonzales Tamaulipas o Villa Manuel Tamaulipas creo. Si alguen save de el por favor si me pueden ayudar.

Gracias

A current good read is "Jaguar's Children" by John Vaillant, a Canadian living in Mexico.I also know that there were English tin miners who went to live in Mexico in the 1800's. Mexico is a real melting pot of different tribes and cultures. (I joined to research my children's Mexican heritage.)
Katrina Link (in Canada)

Hi Erika,
I'm so glad you Email.
Since you're making a revision, please add the surname Cabrera to mine as
well.
That's my maternal grandmother's -- I forgot to include it.
Many Thanks!!
See you in October!
Gloria

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Are your children learning that a Spanish/Latino/creole army and navy ran the British out of most of what became the southern U.S. during the Revolutionary War? Check their U.S. history books! If the index doesn't list ”Galvez” and the “Siege of Pensacola” write your school board!

Any book that lists Lafayette but not Galvez is distorting history. IMO.

In case anyone needs this data, here is the Marriage dispensation from Jose Joaquin de Santo Tomas Estevez y Guzman de la Mora and Maria Ygnacia de la Mora, October 22, 1800.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18411-3826-9?cc=1874591&wc=3…

His daughter, Josefa Rosalia Estevez de la Mora married with my fourth grandfather Francisco Garibay Gutierrez

I noticed many members requesting or looking for the book "Genealogía de Nochistlán antiguo reino de la Nueva Galicia en el siglo XVII según sus archivos parroquiales"

I recently received copies of a couple of chapters and posted them on this site under Files and "Reference Materials" under "Genealogia Nochistlan Capitulos"

It is not many, but it's a start to help some of us.

I want to thank Alicia for taking time and providing the information to me.

Ruben

To the keepers of this website, if it is illegal to post pages from Copyright Books, let me know and I will delete the pages.

I teach American history in a college in Central Texas. The vast majority of text books that I have used here and in Laredo,Texas do not mention Galvez.
Texas education is held hostage by a certain political party that has made a concerted effort to "white wash" both national and state history in our state's textbooks at all age levels. They have encouraged our text books to minimize the contributions of minority figures.

This is why it is important to have minorities such as myself teaching. I include both women and significant minority history makers in my lectures and class assignments. I also make the students see them again on the tests and exams so that they know they have to learn about these people.

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Hello Everyone,
Just registerd for the site and have spent a couple of days reviewing the lists. So excited about the possibility of finding my mothers family! Have spent many years researching my father's side, but didn't have much (and still don't) on my mom's side. So here goes:

Looking for the Calzada-Briones-Colunga family possibly in Fresnillo. They seemed to have moved quite a bit, but found the 1930 Mexico census that listed my grandmother and her parents in Santa Barbara, CHI, MX. The census listed my great grandparents as having been born in Zacatecas, no city listed. Just yesterday, I learned that they may have been from or lived in Fresnillo, Zacatecas, as this was the birth place of one of their children but not necessarily the city where my great grand parents were born, but it's a starting point! My mother's memory is not so good but this is the info I have so far and hoping to make a connection:

Juan Briones-Colunga b. abt 1884 Zacatecas
m. Josefa Calzada b. abt 1887 Zacatecas
ch:
1. Filiberto/Alberto Colunga b. 1900 Fresnillo, Zacatecas d. 1989, buried Parral Cemetery, CHI, MX
m. Isiidra (Ciri) L. Terrazas
ch: Abigail, Savina, Genaro, Benedicto, Hiliberto, Concepcion, Ester
2. Federico Colunga b. abt 1910 CHI
m. Justina Unknown
3. Refugia Colunga b. est 1913
4. Miguel Colunga b. abt 1912
5. Luis Colunga b. abt 1914
6. Erlinda/Hermelinda Colunga b. abt 1916 (my grandmother) d. abt 1940/41
m. Samuel Reyes-Marquez
ch: 2 daughters
7. Rebeca Colunga b. abt 1918
m. Jesus Menarrez
8. Ambrosio Colunga b. abt 1923 d. abt 1941/42
9. Salvador 'Chava' Colunga b. abt 1926

From memory, my mother and her cousin say that an Enrique Colunga was either a son of Juan or a brother of Juan Colunga. Enrique was a governor of Guanajuato, very short term. Family lore says that Juan and son, Filiberto, rode with Pancho Villa and Filiberto was buried in the same cemetery as Pancho Villa.
Juan Colunga and sons were wealthy entreprenuers holding occupations as 'Zapatero's', (shoemakers?) and they owned shoe stores. I have one family picture of my great grandparents and some of their children.

There has been some publication of research of rosters of Louisianans who marched with Galvez against the British in the American Revolution. But nothing of the peninsular and colonial units he imported from throughout the New World. Or the sailors manning the many ships he used in the campaign. These records exist, I believe, in Seville, and await the attention of a researcher. I for one would help underwrite the publication of these rosters.

Harry Mercado

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i found this collection
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-11201-41373-59?cc=1804458&wc…

when looking at the tepetongo category tday

Has anybody researched in the area around Tenamaxtlan, Jalisco? I'm trying to locate an ancestor who was born in this feligresia in or around 1751, but the baptisms seem to begin in 1757 for this parish.

Juana Maria Sanchez (sometimes spelled Sanchis) was married on 21 apr 1765 to Juan Bautista Macedo in San Joaquin, (found in the Guachnango films). According to the matrimonial information, she was born in Tenamaxtlan around 1751. Her parents were Nicolas Sanchez and Manuela Espinoza. I've been able to find several of her siblings after 1757, but not her baptism, much less her parents marriage. Where did the people of Tenamaxtlan register before the parish was established? I would assume Atengo and Tecolotlan, being the closest towns, are my top choice. But it seems that the Atengo records have not been microfilmed! For now, I'll start browsing the films in Tecolotlan hoping to find Nicolas Sanchez and Manuela Espinoza's marriage. If anyone has some additional advice, I would greatly appreciate it.

Steve in NC

According to Marianos Gonzalez Leal "Retoños de España en la Nueva Galicia Tomo II", in the diagram Esquema Numero I, Francisco Gutierrez Rubio (II, El Viejo) and Ana Gonzalea-Florida (I) had three sons and three daughters.

1. Ana Gonzalez-Florida (II) married Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo y Muños.

2. Capitan Miguel Gutierrez-Rubio married Leonor de Hermosillo.

3. Catalina Gutierrez-Rubio married Francisco Muños de la Barba.

4. Diego Gonzalez-Rubio married Polonia de Torres.

5. Maria Gonzalez married Juan de Aceves.

6. Capitan Francisco Gutierrez-Rubio (II, El Mozo) married Francisca Hurtado de Mendoza.

My first question, has someone verified that Francisco (El Mozo) actually married Francisca Hurtado de Mendoza. Years later after Mariano wrote "Retoños", he wrote the prologue to the book "Los Duran de Nochistlan". In the prologue he writes that Francisco (El Mozo) married Leonor de Hermosillo. This contradicts what he wrote in "Retoños". Below is an excerpt from the prologue:

Juana (de Lomelin) casó en Nochistlán el 12 de Septiembre de 1621 con Rodrigo de Carbajal y Ulloa; y viuda, pasó a segundas nupcias con el Jalostitlense Don Francisco Gutiérrez de Hermosillo, hijo del capitán Francisco Gutiérrez Rubio y de Doña Leonor de Hermosillo. Por estas vias, gran parte de los linajes Jalostitlenses remontan su ascendencia a los Lomelines de Nochistlan."

If Francisco (El Mozo) actuall married Leonor, then who did Capitan Miguel Gutierrez-Rubio marry?

Need help.

Thanks,

Sergio Gutierrez
from Jalostotitlan and Santa Maria, CA

Alguien ha tenido exito buscando los testamentos de Tlaltenango de la epoca de 1640-1650 de Tlaltenango?

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Somos Primos August 2015

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Dear Primos and friends:
Wonderful heritage related projects and events are happening. It appears many of us are feeling a desire to know who we really are, searching and defending our heritage through diverse activities.
Finding out that:

"In many ways each of us is the sum total of what our ancestors were.
The virtues they had may be our virtues, their strengths our strengths, and in a way their challenges could be our challenges."
(James E. Faust, Ensign, Nov. 2003, pg. 53)

Surely the social challenges of the 19th and 20th century are still with us, and our ancestors faced them also. Probably to a greater degree.
Somos Primos seeks out success stories to give us hope that through our efforts, we Latinos can make the world a better place for all.

"We may be of different political persuasions, but one thing we can all agree on, is what is best for our people," Delia Gonzalez Huffman.
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With deep gratitude to readers who continue to support Somos Primos by sending personal stories, extracted articles, and tidbits of information. The diversity of readership is reflected in the varied selection of information that I receive.

Special thanks to Dorinda Moreno who was surely a friend to all in this issue. Dorinda sent 18 pieces, which are scattered throughout the August issue!!

God bless our efforts in sharing historic truth . . .
Mimi

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This is the original copy of document of defunto record of Juan Madera year 1730:

http://oi61.tinypic.com/2wp6udx.jpg

I used a program to try to make the wording more clear and adjust the contrast. I changed it to a negative:

http://oi57.tinypic.com/29bya1c.jpg

http://oi57.tinypic.com/4v63hv.jpg

http://i58.tinypic.com/2rxcfm8.jpg

Can anyone please transcribe for me word for word what is says? I want to see if I can get some valuable information on Antonio Madera and Maria De La Candelaria who are the parents of Juan Madera and my 7th generation great grandparents.

http://childrenoftheinquisition.com/testimonials/

i'm nt sure if this is in the right forum or not but i wanted to share this since someone from jerez, zacatecas, submitted something to that site. if i can figure out how he fits into my tree or erlinda's rootsweb tree at least, it could be quite a breakthrough

I would like to share my research and records and hopefully someone in the group can help fill in the holes where I only have on spouse named in a dispensation.
The first link is to my line from Jerez and Tepetongo Zacatecas Mexico. It starts with my Dad Chet (Aniceto) Castanon.
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=mexico&id=I00…

The second link is my maternal line starting with my mother Dolores Gutierrez from Tamazula, Jalisco going back to Michoacan.
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=mexico&id=I41…

I just updated my files and they contain 20 years of work and over 110 thousand people. I only meant to do my immediate lines but ended up doing the lines of the families they married into.

My file name is Mexico and if you go to the index hopefully you will see something of interesting to you and your line.
Linda in Olympia