https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DHQK-Q7
The link above is for a Pedro rodriguez de ???? married to Maria Gonzales de Rubalcava. Can someone make out what it is? I found parents of a pedro rodriguez and the mother is Maria Lucia don't know it is his parents.
I'm wondering if there is anyone in the forum that has any information on Nicolas Ponce, also known as, Nicolas Simon Rodriguez Ponce and his wife Antonia Jimenez. I'm estimating their births between 1685 - 1695. One record identifies them as being vecinos de La Huerta de los Rodriguez. Their son is also listed as a vecino de La Huerta de los Rodriguez in Aguascalientes. Nicolas Ponce and Antonia Jimenez are the parents of my 7th great grandfather Juan de Dios Rodriguez Ponce that married Gertrudis de la Torre in 1759:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-XX6Q-XK6?wc=M99K-38S%3A155…
Any information that anyone might have or any clues would be greatly appreciated.
Christopher de Cuellar
Busco la defunción de mi abuela Crecencia Romo Rodríguez. Ella nació 23 de abril l885 in Aguascalientes, hija de Luz Romo Olmos y Maria del Refugio Rodríguez Romo Crecencia murió in Aguascalientes cuando mi mama era una niña chica. Por fotos que tengo de mi mama cuando vivía con su madrastra y padre he buscado la defunción en los libros de 1915, 1916 y 1917. Fui a los Archivos de Aguascalientes, me mandaron a la oficina que tiene los Archivos antiguos. Los libros no tenían índice y como no se que año murió no pude localizarla. De allí me dijeron que en el panteón tendrían la fecha que murió. Fui al panteón de los Ángeles y me dijeron que se les había n perdido toda información antes de 1929. Encontré a una prima por lado de mi abuela Crecencia y me dijo que mi mama vivió unos anos con su tía hermana de su mama. Con esta información he buscado el acta de defunción en los libros de 1913 y 1914. I have hit a solid brick wall Necesito sugerencias en donde mas puedo buscar esta información. Como no conocí a mi abuela maternal o mi abuela paternal quisiera tener una poca de información sobre ellas.
In the marriage of Jose Rosalino Gutierrez and Maria Francisca Diaz in Jalostitlan on June 8, 1804, does it say that he was married before to a Juana Micaela Basquez and that she had died in 1801 and was buried in San Miguel Ayuda? Was he from Maravilla and Francisca from Jalostitlan? I think it lists her parents who are both deceased, but I don't think I see his parents listed.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-XYB6-8?i=134&owc=collectio…
Thank you in advance,
Emilie
Port Orchard, WA
I am trying to help a friend with her family tree. She is descended from Tomas Vital and Ygnacia Gutierrez of Jalisco.
Tomas is the son of Ramon Vital that is some records is listed as Ramon Ybarra y Vital, and sometimes Vital-Ybarra, or Ybarra Alias Vital. Where did Vital change from Ybarra? These people settled in Arandas, Degollado, San Miguel el Alto, San Diego de Alejandria.
Emilie
Port Orchard, WA
Saludos a todos,
Estoy investigando a un soldado devenido en minero del Real de Minas de San Gregorio de Mazapil, Juan (o Joanes) de Minchaca (o Menchaca), quien fue compañero de Francisco Cano allá por 1568/1569. Por un documento en el Archivo General de Indias sabemos que Juan de Menchaca murió allá por 1594/1595 y dejó testamento.
¿Sabe alguno de Uds. el contacto del cronista de Mazapil y si hay algún repositorio de Testamentos de esa época, que correspondan a esta zona de Zacatecas, en alguna ciudad como Guadalajara ó Zacatecas?
Gracias de antemano por su ayuda,
Bernardo Menchaca Falcón
Hello All,
I came across something of curiosity with my paternal grandfather's birth information. While the majority of his family was born in the Fresnillo, Zacatecas area, he was born in Cuidad de Durango in 1908.
Until recently, I have been using church baptism certs to document my family history, but more recently, I have been also searching for civil birth and marriage registrations. My grandfather, traditionally, has had the birthday of December 2nd. That is what he celebrated when he was alive and what the church baptism cert states. However, when I located his civil birth registration, recently, it states his birthday is December 25th (Christmas)...which is quite a difference in days.
According to his civil registration, he was born four days before the registration (registration was Dec. 29th) AND the document also CLEARLY shows in the title his birthday of December 25th.
His baptism information shows he was baptised on January 6th and he was born on "2 de Dbre". I have closely looked at the image and it does not have a lightly written "5"...it was intended to be Dec. 2nd.
So, here is my question, has anyone run into sitautions where the church and civil record reflect something like this? More specifically, has anyone seen a birthday on Christmas intentionally changed to something else on a Church baptism cert?
Thoughts and input is welcomed.....
Arthur Medrano
Algo de Pedro Ulloa y Marquez, Alonso Martín Bermejo, Diego Flores de la
Torre,Don Santiago García de Rodayega, Captain Cristóbal Muñoz de Hermosillo
y Camarena
Captain Pedro de Ulloa y Márquez and Josefa de Sepúlveda married in Nochistl
án on 2 Feb 1667.
1. María de Ulloa, chr. 16 Nov 1667 in Mexticacán, married first to Blas
Martínez de Alcaraz, from Guadalajara. Two known daughters: Ana, died in
Nochistlán 10 July 1686 age 8 mos. and Gabriela María Martínez de Alcaraz y
Ulloa, married 12 Feb 1718 to Francisco Vallejo y Cornejo, from Ozumba,
Estado de México and a descendant of the Ramirez Brenes line. María's second
husband was Antonio Cornejo y Valdivia; they had offspring.
2. Elvira de Ulloa, chr. 1 Nov 1669 in Mexticacán.
3. Mariana de Ulloa, born c.1671, married c.1685 to Antonio Ruiz. Daughter
Juana was christened in Teocaltiche 8 Sep 1686. Daughter Matiana Ruiz wed
Luis de Ornelas y Pérez de Frías (MD Teocaltiche 22 June 1708):
Capitán Pedro de Ulloa y Josefa Márquez y de Sepúlveda en Nochistlán casada
el 2 de febrero 1667.
1. María de Ulloa, chr. 16 de noviembre 1667 en Mexticacán, casado primero a
Blas Martínez de Alcaraz, desde Guadalajara. Dos conocidos hijas: Ana,
falleció en Nochistlán 10 de julio 1686 de 8 años meses. y María Gabriela
Martínez de Alcaraz y Ulloa, casado 12 de febrero 1718 a Vallejo y Francisco
Cornejo, de Ozumba, Estado de México y descendiente de la línea de Brenes
Ramírez. María fue el segundo esposo Antonio Cornejo y Valdivia, tuvieron
descendencia.
2. Elvira de Ulloa, chr. 1 de noviembre 1669 en Mexticacán.
3. Mariana de Ulloa, nacido c.1671, casado c.1685 a Antonio Ruiz. Hija Juana
fue bautizado en Teocaltiche 8 de septiembre de 1686. Matiana hija
Ruiz Miércoles
Luis de Ornelas y Pérez de Frías (MD Teocaltiche 22 de junio 1708):
Cristóbal Martínez Lozano and his spouse had 12 children that married: Three
male and 9 female. The three sons were:
1. Cristóbal Lozano, born c. 1605. Fathered a mestizo, natural son prior to
marrying. Wed Mariana González de Gardea 20 Mar 1643, Christened 27 Nov
1624, she was the daughter of Alonso Martín BERMEJO and Isabel LÓPEZ DE
GARDEA. The seed lived in Aguascalientes, Ags. and Sierra de Pinos,
Zacatecas.
Next generation(s)
Estimados compañeros,
Aquí les tengo otro tema de discusión. Se trata de uno de los apellidos más alteños que puede haber: González de Hermosillo. Aunque es una familia que ha sido ampliamente investigada por todo genealogista alteño, necesito ayuda en una rama en particular proveniente de Teocaltiche. Como muchos ya saben, Teocaltiche carece de archivos elementales a finales del siglo XVII y los principios del XVIII. Esta falta de registros bautismales y matrimoniales dificulta la investigación de la línea siguiente.
El día lunes, 5 de junio de 1752, en la Parroquia San Agustín, Ayo el Chico, Jalisco, contrajeron matrimonio Juan Joseph González de Hermosillo y María de la Candelaria Hernández Gamiño. El acta de matrimonio literalmente dice lo siguiente:
"Don Juan Joseph González de Hermosillo español de Teocaltiche, y vecino del Carrizal con Doña María Hernández española de dicho puesto del Carrizal. ----- En el año del Señor de mil setecientos cinquenta y dos, en cinco días del mes de Junio, yo Fray Antonio Silva de licentia parrochi haviendo precedido todas las diligencias matrimoniales, y leídose tres moniciones en tres Días festivos inter missarum solemnia no haviendo de ellas resultado impedimento alguno, casé y velé en facie ecclesie por palabras de presente a Don Juan Joseph González de Hermosillo, español de Teocaltiche, y vecino del Carrizal, hijo legítimo de Don Juan Antonio González de Hermosillo y de Doña Gertrudis Gómez Rendón, con María Hernández, española de esta jurisdicción en el Carrizal, hija legítima de Don Juan Hernández y de Nicolasa Vázquez Zermeño: fueron padrinos Don Juan Manuel Ascencio de León y Doña María Anna Ascencio de León, Testigos Cayetano de Estrada y Ambrosio de Estrada. Lo firmé . . . Fray Antonio Silva (rúbrica)."
Este documento está localizado en el Libro de Matrimonios Nº 4 (Enero 1752-25 de febrero de 1769), Foja 5 frente, que corresponde al Microfilm # 0280787, Marriages 1741-1811, Ayo el Chico, Jalisco..
Como pueden ver, don Juan Joseph González de Hermosillo fue hijo de Juan Antonio González de Hermosillo y de Gertrudis Gómez Rendón. A base de la única fe de bautizo que he podido localizar para un hijo de ellos, en 1725, calculo que se casaron en 1724. Y usando una fórmula común, calculo que Juan Joseph González de Hermosillo nació entre 1695 y 1705, y que su mujer Gertrudis Gómez Rendón nació entre 1700 y 1710, fechas más o menos conservadoras.
Hello,
I have two Maria Alvares Tostado ancestor's in my family tree. One is Nava and she was married to Joseph Perez Gallo, but I'm looking for the parents of the other Maria married to Juan Delgadillo. Attached is her 1737 Teocaltiche death record and she is also named in her daughter's Petrona Delgadillo's marriage record which states Petrona was born in Nochistlan. I found children records of a Maria NAVA married to a Juan Delgadillo that fit this time line in Nochistlan, but I don't know for sure if this second Maria is also Nava.
Bottom right of this record:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-19050-27076-84?cc=1874591&wc…
Her daughter was Petrona Delgadillo - marriage to Christobal Ximenes de Albarado in 1726
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18408-28811-35?cc=1874591&wc…
If anyone could help me find the parents of Maria Alvares Tostado who died in 1737; I would appreciate it. I'm searching page by page, but so far I haven't found her birth or marriage records. She may be Lorenzo's sister, but I just don't know at this point.
Cynthia
Margarito Torres of La Blanca Zacatecas was my great grandfather. I found his death registration but I'm having a hard time reading it. I think this document contains other information that will help me trace back my ancestry further. I have attached the death registration and was wondering if any of you can help me read what it says. I thought his parents were Cristoval Torres and Teresa Morales, but I think this document says that they are his grandparents. Is that correct?
Thanks in advance!
Good morning, could someone show me where I can find a 1920 US Census Image? Thank you.
please see post that did not get sent out due to error
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6QRS-TS7
this is their Informacion Matrimonial
and here is MQM9-8L6 to locate in Familysearch.org
Some notes on Velacion (de velo) and velacion de vigilar.
Velación
f. Acción de velar (vigilar). A wake, a
(The action of watching)
As in “Lo velamos anoche”. “ We were at his wake last night”.
velación
(del latin velatione)
f. liturg. Ceremonia que consistía en cubrir con un velo (veil) a los cónyuges en la misa nupcial celebrada inmediatamente después del casamiento.
As in “case y vele a.....” (I married and covered them with the veil.
(as it appears in church records) or
“fueron casados y velados” (they were married and (covered) veiled.
Consiste en que los padrinos de velacion cubren a los novios con un velo en común y piden la fecundidad del matrimonio. (The veiling (velacion) consists in the veil sponsors covering the bride and groom with a veil and ask for the fecudity of the marriage.
LATIN LANGUAGE ORIGINS
velatione
ion SUFFIX
-ing, -ion, -ery; indicates the action or result of the action of the verb;
velation.e N 3 1 LOC S F
velation.e N 3 1 DAT S F Early
velation.e N 3 1 ABL S F
velo, velare, velavi, velatus V [XXXBX]
veil, cover, cover up; enfold, wrap, envelop; hide, conceal; clothe in;
___________________________________________________________________________________________________
Sinónimos
velación
sustantivo femenino
vigilia, velada, vela, trasnochada.
Diccionario Manual de Sinónimos y Antónimos de la Lengua Española Vox. © 2007 Larousse Editorial, S.L.
____________________________________________________________
Heavy rains mean flooding
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Saludos a todos,
Estoy investigando a un soldado devenido en minero del Real de Minas de San Gregorio de Mazapil, Juan (o Joanes) de Minchaca (o Menchaca), quien fue compañero de Francisco Cano allá por 1568/1569. Por un documento en el Archivo General de Indias sabemos que Juan de Menchaca murió allá por 1594/1595 y dejó testamento.
¿Sabe alguno de Uds. el contacto del cronista de Mazapil y si hay algún repositorio de Testamentos de esa época, que correspondan a esta zona de Zacatecas, en alguna ciudad como Guadalajara ó Zacatecas?
Gracias de antemano por su ayuda,
Bernardo Menchaca Falcón
I invite you all to inpout your dna results into this university database to combine all results in one mayor data base, so fart i have one relative identify. As people share their dna this should increase dramaticaly.
I hope you deside to share the dna result so we all can identify our dna relatives-
Hello Everyone:
I'm new to the group and I'm excited to find people researching the same area that I'm researching. I'm looking for Parish records for Toribio, Zacatecas. I found the marriage record for Tomas Moreno, born 1869 and his wife, Florncia Lira, born 1872.The marriage took place in Rio Grande, Zacatecas, but it says they were from Toribio. I've found Parroquia de la Inmaculada Concepcion in Toribio, but on the Parrocos en Calera website, it says this parish started in 1993. I've looked in Family Search for the parish and can't find it. I've also looked in neighboring parish records, to see if it could be combined with another parish, but couldn't find anything there either. Does anyone know where I could find birth or marriage records for Toribio, Calera, Zacatecas prior to 1873?
Thank you,
Madelaine
Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,
Could someone help me and tell me what this says about my ancestor Miguel
Martel and his wife Mariana Morales. it seems to say differnt stuff at the
top and doesnt get to the marriage part til close to the end. it even looks
like it says something about California.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-65T9-3G6?i=47&wc=M6QF-2NG%…
Danny C. Alonso
Hi, after a long time without any clue conserning my Barrios family branch, I had a hint that said that they were from Colotlan Jalisco.
Does any one have in your research José Barrios de Valparaíso married with Donaciana Minjares Sánchez born around 1806, their sons are Luis and Pedro.
Thanks forma your help!
Hola, después de mucho tiempo sin ninguna clave sobre la rama de mi familia Barrios, la clave dice que son de Colotlan Jalisco.
Alguien tiene en su investigación a José Barrios de Valparaíso casada con Donaciana Minjares Sánchez nacida alrededor 1806 y sus hijos son Luis y Pedro .
Muchas gracias.
Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,
i'm looking for information on the parents, and especially the mother of,
Eugenio Lozano. He married Maria Duran
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6X37-5Z8?cc=1502404
On the information matrimonial it says he is the son of Joseph Lozano and
Petrona Gonzalez de Gardea. I've also seen a Joseph Lozano married to a
Petra Macias and a Petronila de Retamosa and I was wondering if these are
all the same girl and what information is known about her. Does anyone have
her ancestry?
Danny C. Alonso
Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,
I see on the side of the marriage records sometime it says velados or
velacion or velar and i guess that's the veiling that i seen mentioned
before on the Nuestros Ranchos Forum, but what exactly does that mean? is
it a special ceremony. do they use a veil, why do they call it that?
Danny C. Alonso
I am looking for my gramas family in Guadalajara Jalisco.
I found her birth record but i am interested in meeting her family, she die when my father was 5 years old and he never meet her family-
If you know any Torres cabrera family in Jslico please let me know i wish to talk to them
Mercedes torres 2 october 1911
Guadalajara Jalisco Mexico
Parents
Guillermo torres
Luisa Cabrera
Paternal Grand parents
Birilo Torres
Severiana Loyasa or Boyasa
Maternal Grandparents
Ignacio Cabrera
Hilaria Perez
Hi Arturo,
I'm replying to you directly and also via the list, just in case this helps anyone else too.
Most of the Mexican records I've come across at Ancestry are indeed duplicates of FamilySearch.org. I know that a lot of what I've seen are "index only" records. I'm not sure if I recall seeing any that include the original digitized record. I should add that I've been doing my Mexican research mostly at FS, so I may not be the best person to answer that particular aspect. As far as I can tell, the Ancestry version of the FamilySearch records seems limited. I could be wrong on this too --hopefully someone will correct me if so.
However, there are other databases of Mexican records in their library. Presumably all the Mexican databases are available during the Dia De Los Muertos promotion. Here is a cut-and-pasted list of those that AREN'T categorized as "Birth, Marriage, Death". It's not a very long list, unfortunately:
U.S., Returns from Military Posts, 1806-1916 Military 3,993,758Jewish Given Name Variations Reference, Dictionaries & Almanacs 721,272 Hispanic Surnames and Family History, 1996 Reference, Dictionaries & Almanacs 341 The Works of Hubert Howe Bancroft Stories, Memories & Histories 31,558 Mexico Historical Postcards (in Spanish) Pictures 12,242 Mexico, European Immigrants to USA Arriving at Vera Cruz, Mexico, 1921-1931 Immigration & Travel 4,438 JewishGen Yizkor Book Master Name Index Stories, Memories & Histories 17,306 An Illustrated history of southern California : embracing the counties of San Diego, San Bernardino, Los Angeles and Orange, an Stories, Memories & Histories 926 World Foreign Gazetteer, Vol. 1 Maps, Atlases & Gazetteers 1,545,127 Coahuila y Texas : desde la consumacion de la independencia hasta el tratado de paz de Guadalupe Hidalgo Stories, Memories & Histories 1,098 Coahuila y Texas en la época colonial Stories, Memories & Histories 756 Nacogdoches, Texas, Spanish and Mexican Government Records, 1729-1836 (in Spanish) Immigration & Travel 15,964 Historical and Genealogical Account of the Family of Vance (Vans, Vaux, and De Vaux) Schools, Directories & Church Histories 46 Journal d'un missionnaire au Texas et au Mexique (in French) Stories, Memories & Histories 490
Hello everyone,
I always thought that getting a paid subscription to Ancestry.com was not useful since most of what they have from Mexico you can search for free on Familysearch, but last night I tried their free access offer that other NuestrosRancheros have mentioned and I kept finding record after record that I didn't have. It seems they have indexed a lot or records that Familysearch hasn't indexed yet, or at least hadn't the last time I checked. All the ones I have found so far are civil records from the 20th Century, and I have tied a lot of lose ends. Totally worth it.
Just go to Ancestry.mx, logon with your regular Ancestry.com credentials and see if you find anything interesting. Free access to Mexican records is available until Día de Muertos, Monday November 2nd.
Have a nice search!
Victoriano Navarro