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I have discovered that I am a descendant of Lorenzo de Luevana (died abt. 28 Jul 1741 in Aguascalientes) and his wife, Catharina Marin de Tiscareño (died about 25 Jul 1737). I have Lorenzo's parents' names from his burial record, but the parents of Catharina were not mentioned in hers. I looked at some trees at Family Search and Ancestry to try and get a sense of additional ancestors for this couple, and while some names are mentioned, I don't see any specific proof to add connections. For example,  the marriage record for Lorenzo's parents, Andres de Luevana and Cristina de Salazar, does not include parents, but people have identified some; however, there is no noted record to confirm the connection. 

Does anyone have any more on Lorenzo and Catharina (I'd like an identification and proof of her parents) or on Lorenzo's ancestry? 

Thank you!

Rosalinda

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Dear Members,

Recently I have been revisiting some lines that I had worked on a few years ago, trying to tie down some loose ends.

Two loose ends I wanted to put forward regarding Cristóbal Martínez Lozano (el Viejo) are the following:

1) In "Retoños de España" it is stated that Cristobal obtained genealogical information from the city of Leon. My two questions are a)which León, Castilla or Guanajuato?
b)Has someone found this information such that you could share the images or the transcription? Below is the quote from Retoños
"Este caballero promovió la información genealógica a que con anterioridad se hace referencia y que se levantó en la Villa de León -cosa hasta cierto punto extraña porque en ella no tuvo intereses patrimoniales ni familiares- el 28 de febrero de 1628," Vol. 1, Volume 5, Part 2. I do not have an exact page number because the online source that is quoting this did not provide one.

2) Has someone found Cristobal's will? That would probably say whose daughter María de Isla was and whether she was indeed the illegitimate daughter or Benito de Isla, and who the mother was. I know some of the Aguascalientes wills are available online, but his is not listed. I am wondering if it would be in Guadalajara?

As it is well known, I have again included his death record on 13 May 1646, because it says before whom he made the will:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11773-145304-59?cc=1410092…

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For those of you researching Teocaltiche, Jalisco, the attached files will be of interest. These are two sets of extractions of very early death records which I believe have never been microfilmed. The first set (1641-1733) was generously provided to me by the late Dr. J. Leon Helguera, who had received them from another researcher. The second set (1696-1819) was done by me. Note that some of the data overlap and, in a few cases, entries are interpreted differently.

Mary Lou Montagna

Until I can figure out how to reduce the files so I can upload them to Nuestros Ranchos, here's a link to my Dropbox account.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/yop1j3tqornd0xh/AABnVNtOvuDJtcuW0Gk5vgBHa?dl…

I have seen someone from Mezquitic, Jalisco, Mexico with the surname "Rangel."

Does that go far back to the colonial days of Mezquitic and is that spanish?

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En una documento de aspirantes a órdenes del Br. Joseph Miguel Flores de la Torre. Fechado 9 de febrero de 1758 en Xalostitlán, con 21 foxas se encuentra información adicional muy valiosa de la familia Flores de la Torre en la Nueva Galicia. Este documento establece aun más los vínculos que se encuentra en esa familia. Menciona algunos miembros de esta casa que ni tenía en mis archivos.

En el documento menciona que el Br. Joseph Miguel Flores de la Torre era bautizado en la parroquia de Nuestra Señora de la Asunción de Xalostitlán el 5 de octubre de 1735 con el nombre Joseph Miguel María Flores de la Torre y Vallarta. Su padrino de bautizo era el Lic. D. Joseph de Feijóo Centellas, Cura de Guadalajara, hermano del Lic. Sebastián de Feijóo Centellas, Chantre de la Iglesia de Guadalajara y Micaela de Feijóo Centellas, mujer de Manuel Francisco Xavier Rincón Gallardo, IV Mayorazgo de Ciénega del Rincón, ambos hijos del muy afamado Lic. Francisco de Feijóo Centellas, Oídor de la Real Audencia de Guadalajara y su mujer Micaela de Moya y Palacios ambos originarios de los Reinos de Castilla en Málaga, Andalucía.

El Br. Joseph Miguel Flores de la Torre y Vallarta era hijo legítimo de D. Joseph Tomás Flores de la Torre y Franco de Paredes, originario de la parroquia de Xalpa, jurisdición de Aguascalientes y su mujer Da. Ángela Manuela de Vallarta y Lomelín y Mendoza. Éstos casaron en Xalostitlán el 26 de novienmre de 1726. Sólo he encontrado otro hijo que bautizaron, Ignacio Francisco Xavier Flores de la Torre y Vallarta, el 27 de diciembre de 1737 en Xalostitlán.

D. Joseph Tomás Flores de la Torre y Franco de Paredes era hijo legítimo del capitán Joseph Flores de la Torre y Ana Franco de Paredes, antiguos vecinos de Jalpa. Por el otro lado Ángela Manuela de Vallarta era hija del nobílisimo penínsular y patriarca de la familia en Los Altos de Jalisco, Carlos Francisco de Vallarta, Teniente de la Real Justicia de Xalostitlán y Juana de Lomelín y Mendoza. Además, menciona que el Br. Joseph Miguel Flores de la Torre, tenía tres tíos maternos que también entraron en la Iglesia, 1) Br. Carlos Vicente de Vallarta, 2) Br. Antonio de Vallarta y 3) el Br. Joaquín de Vallarta.

Hola. ¿Saben de la existencia de algún documento que compruebe que Juana era hija de Petronila? Hasta la fecha no he encontrado documentos concluyentes. Tampoco nada claro sobre Petronila, fuera del rumor que existe sobre una dispensa solicitada por sus descendientes para un matrimonio. Dispensa que se dice está en el archivo de Guillermo Tovar y de Teresa. Agradeceré cualquier informe al respecto. Saludos https://www.nuestrosranchos.org/Amelie

Guillermo Padilla Origel's book, Extractos de Informes Matrimoniales en el Obispado de Michoacán durante el Siglo XVII (1630-1685), is referenced a couple of times on NR and Somos Primos. Does anyone know if there is much overlap between what is available on Valladolid Dispensas and the extracts contained in the book? It does not appear to be available for purchase any longer.

Hello,

I'm looking for any informacion about 2 couples that I found in a Land Record in Tlaltenango. Both couples are mentioned in the history of the same property

1. Sebastian de Mercado married to Ana de Santillan. Date on the title 2 junio 1644. Title for Ana de Santillan now a widow of Sebastian de Mercado

2. Francisco de Acuna married to Beatriz Mercado. Granddaughter of Ana de Santillan (that is mentioned in the title) Date of the title: 26 mar 1648. Very possible "adjudicacion de tierra" to her granddaughter

NOTE: I'm hoping that these two couples are going to give me any clues on the parents of Juana Mercado (wife of Bernardo Carrillo Davila), because after the property was owned by Beatriz de Mercado (and Francisco de Acuna) the land "goes" to Pedro de la torre Acosta married to Nicolasa Carrillo Davila Mercado daughter of Juana de Mercado.

Any info will be appreciated

Happy Holidays

sus

My name is Rafael Luiz Jimenez and I just joined the group. I have been looking into my family history for around three years off and on. Here is the link to my file and I look forward to interacting with some of you. https://www.nuestrosranchos.org/raiderj16

Hello Everyone, My name is Rudy and I've been researching family history for around 10 years (it could be more, but I've lost track). I'm currently researching my family from La Barca, Jalisco and Ojo Calientes, Zacatecas. It's a bit of a challenge at the moment because of the missing records in Ojo Calientes so for now I'm focusing my search in La Barca. Names I'm interested: Ruiz, Avalos, Rincon, Castellanos and Cardenas. I'm currently reviewing: https://www.familysearch.org/records/images/image-details?imageGroupNum… A partial snapshot of my tree is here: https://www.nuestrosranchos.org/nickpending

Hello everyone, I am Ramón E Sánchez Vázquez del Mercado, I am 62 years old and for more than 10 years I have dedicated a lot of time to the genealogy referring to the surname Vázquez del Mercado, my starting point is the so-called "red book ".... an old book resulting from the transcription and compilation of previous books made by my great-grandfather "ALEJANDRO JOSE LADISLAO DE JESUS ​​VAZQUEZ DEL MERCADO MEJIA" (b1841, Sombrerete, Zacatecas, who was governor of AGUASCALIENTES state" in Porfiriato´s periods ) and which in turn has as its starting point his grandfather "NICOLAS JOSE VAZQUEZ DEL MERCADO" (b1720 Zacatecas, Mex.) married to Maria Ygnacia Espinoza de los Monteros, who have been essential for a better understanding of the growth of the family. 

Through these years I have tried to link the historical references of the ancestor "Gines Básquez de Mercado" with the current family.... I want to emphasize that I have found that the surname "Vázquez del Mecado" through several centuries has derived as "Vázquez del Mercado", "Mercado", and a large part of those who currently have only "Mercado" as their surname derive from the original surname "Basquez de Mercado". 

Currently my interest is to be able to discover the link between the "Básquez de Mercado" family from the time of the conquest with the family settled mainly in Jalisco, Zacatecas, Durango, Aguascalientes and CDMX between the period 1540 to 1700.... I am grateful to this site for the opportunity to advance the investigation of the family relationships mentioned and to be able to collaborate with members who share similar interests. 

I look forward to your comments and thank you for being able to share my research,

 https://www.nuestrosranchos.org/RamonSanchez 

Warm greetings

Hello everyone, I am Ramón E Sánchez Vázquez del Mercado, I am 62 years old and for more than 10 years I have dedicated a lot of time to the genealogy referring to the surname Vázquez del Mercado, my starting point is the so-called "red book ".... an old book resulting from the transcription and compilation of previous books made by my great-grandfather "ALEJANDRO JOSE LADISLAO DE JESUS ​​VAZQUEZ DEL MERCADO MEJIA" (b1841, Sombrerete, Zacatecas, who was governor of AGUASCALIENTES state" in Porfiriato´s periods ) and which in turn has as its starting point his grandfather "NICOLAS JOSE VAZQUEZ DEL MERCADO" (b1720 Zacatecas, Mex.) married to Maria Ygnacia Espinoza de los Monteros, who have been essential for a better understanding of the growth of the family. 

Through these years I have tried to link the historical references of the ancestor "Gines Básquez de Mercado" with the current family.... I want to emphasize that I have found that the surname "Vázquez del Mecado" through several centuries has derived as "Vázquez del Mercado", "Mercado", and a large part of those who currently have only "Mercado" as their surname derive from the original surname "Basquez de Mercado". 

Currently my interest is to be able to discover the link between the "Básquez de Mercado" family from the time of the conquest with the family settled mainly in Jalisco, Zacatecas, Durango, Aguascalientes and CDMX between the period 1540 to 1700.... 

I am grateful to this site for the opportunity to advance the investigation of the family relationships mentioned and to be able to collaborate with members who share similar interests. 

I look forward to your comments and thank you for being able to share my research, 

https://www.nuestrosranchos.org/RamonSanchez 

Warm greetings

Looking for my 4th GGrandfather Cipriano Puente born in Fresnillo in 1787 but the records don't go back that far for that location.

Does anyone know why the records for Fresnillo are so few? Were the records lost? The city was established in 1554 so the records must be someplace if not lost.

any thoughts?

Joseph

ps: I did find his MI record for when he married Eduarda Torres in 1813 in Villanueva:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-TTWP-D?i=701&cc=1804458 but the record doesn't really start until page 706

I have already posted some of my research on Juana Nunez de Sotomayors ancestry. I would like to add some of the information that I have discovered concerning her husband, Diego Ochoa Garibay y Solis.

1). Martin Uncella ( born in the 1300's) is the father of

1.1) Ivan (Juan) Martinez Uncella (born about 1385) escribano de la villa (There is a story about him being banished by the king of Castilla that I go into more detail in my book)

1.1.1). Martin Ibanez Uncella (born abt. 1430
Married to Juana Etxebarria (born abt 1435, daughter of Pedro Etxebarria, Señor del solar de Etxebarria. (Pedro is born on or before 1410 surname also later
spelled Echevarria.
They married and lived in Mondragon. Martin Ibanez Uncella and Juana Etxebarria are the parents of:

1.1.1.1.1). Reverend Juan de Mondragon (Catholic priest but not the Cardinal. The Cardinal is his nephew.)

1.1.1.1.2). Maria Martinez de Uncella. Married in Mondragon to Martin Fernandez de Mercado

1.1.1.1.3). Martin Martinez de Uncella ( el Viejo)

1.1.1.1.4). Teresa Ibanez de Uncella (born abt. 1465) married in Elorrio to Pedro Garcia de Esteibar ( born about 1465)

Teresa Ibanez de Uncella and her husband Pedro Gartzia de Esteibar are the parents of two daughters: Juana Ibanez de Esteibar and Marina Ibanez de Esteibar

1.1.1.1.4.1) Juana Ibanez de Esteibar (born abt. 1490) married to Juan Otxoa de Ybarlucea (born about 1490) (in Spanish:Juan Ochoa de Ibarlucea).

These two are the parents of 4 children that I know of :

1.1.1.1.4.1.1). Cardenal Juan de Mondragon, (named after his uncle). (Catholic)

1.1.1.1.4.1.2). Reverend Pedro de Mondragon (Catholic Priest)

1.1.1.1.4.1.3). Martin (Machin) Ochoa Ybarlucea (born in 1513) ( also known as Martin Ochoa Garibai) Ybarlucia and Garibay are both names used for being from Elorrio, one refers to the valley, while the other refers to the banks of the river where the fern grows.
Martin Ochoa Ibarlucea is married to Maria Suarez de Solis y Rodriguez, daughter of Juan Bueno de Solis and Catalina Rodriguez.
Martin Ochoa Ibarlucea also had a daughter, Magdalena Garibay, out of wedlock with an unknown Indian. Magdalena married Diego Lopez. It is unknown which sibling was born first so gave her the #1.1.1.1.4.1.3.2). As if she was born second to Diego.

Has anyone had any experience in researching records in The San Judas Tadeo church in Villanueva, Zacatecas? My wife and I are planning to visit there this summer. Her Corvera and Marquez ancestors lived there. I'm just curious as to how approachable the church staff would be for us to see their old written records. Thank you so much for any advice you can offer.

Hi All, I have been a member here since 2016, with Martin Renteria noted in the records of my wife, Judith Martinez, with her Martinez family very well established and recorded in the Coahuila and Nuevo Leon areas of Mexico. Martin Renteria settled in the Llerena and Sombrete regions of Zacatecas, where he died in 1610. My link to Martin Renteria is via daughter Mayor Renteria, who also settled in the Nuevo Leon area, and ties back to the Martinez family through many other Nuevo Leon/Coahuila surnames.

My interest in this website came about when performing some research for the Reynoso family while living in Phoenix, Arizona. Our families both had moved from Globe, Arizona (a mining town) to Phoenix, Arizona (about 70 miles west). While conducting the Reynoso research, I found that the Reynoso family also had ties to the Renteria family. Since then, I have started a Juchipila area website, which focuses around the Reynoso y Renteria families. If interested, the website is located at http://www.clingram.com/famhis1/index.php

My focus lately had been with restoring the existing website after it went down. It is also with maintaining the current Nuestrosranchos site. This is all a part of the effort of the tech group that was assembled when the site went down in 2021. The tech group is also in the process of upgrading the site to a newer version of software for future use. The existing website software is a bit dated (Support for the software ended in 2016). The new site and software are current (2022), and when approved by the tech group this site will be hosted at a different location.

My introduction today is on behalf of my Grandson, Paul Hernandez, who married Alejandra Zermeno Moreno earlier this year (2022). The Zermeno family is well established in the Jalisco region, and this family is traced back to several conquistadors (via the Zermeno and Brambila) surnames.

This branch of the Zermeno family was listed early in Lagos and surrounding areas, but eventually settled in Juchitlan, Jalisco, Mexico and Union de Tula, Jalisco Mexico. I have included a file in the Members Files Area listed under Zermeno, Alejandra, with her pedigree chart through several generations.

Hello everyone,

I am looking for information on Apolonio Romero and Maria Jesus Sanchez, they last lived in or around el rancho de Santa Isabel, La Cuartilla, Santa Teresa or Jabonera near Jalp, Zacatecas. I was able to find Maria Jesus Sanchez death record in Jalpa, Zacatecas and it showed that her parents were Timoteo Sanchez and Manuela Delgadillo but I can't find anything past that.

For Apolonio Romero I can not find anything. they had at least 9 kids that I can find but not birth or baptism records anywhere for them.
Kids are as follow:

Ricardo Romero Married to Maria Nieves Aguayo
Gregorio Romero Married to Abelina Duran
Tranquilino Romero Married to Ancelma Peredia
Elpidio Romero Married to Gabina Ramos
Maria Romero Married to Jose Refugio Padilla
Priscilliano Romero Married to Refugio Carrilo and Josefa Ramirez (married twice)
Antonio Romero Married to Santiago Perez
Ramon Romero Married to Benigna Aguayo
Librada Romero Married to Mariano Pulido

Please if you have any information please contact me FamilyRomerotx@gmail.com
Thank you
Becky

Hola Primos,

In searching for documents related to my Michoacan ancestors in the Spanish Inquisition archives... I ran across a potential clue to the origin of the Lopez Bueso family of Tecolotlan, Tamazula, Autlan, etc. (My wife has Lopez Bueso ancestors which is why I decided to take a look, I'm glad I did!)

I found the following document in the Mexican Spanish Inquisition archives:

Proceso criminal contra Andres Lopez de Bueso, casado dos veces - Guadalajara (1617)

The case revolves around Andres Lopez Bueso who turned himself in for "bigamo, por ser casado dos veces"... In it we learn that he's originally from Antequera, Espana - son of Pedro Bueso and Ana de Vera. He left Spain and left behind a wife and re-married in Mexico around 1615. He married Ana de Escobar, hija de Hernando de Munguia and Isabel de Escobar, sobrina de Francisco Ruiz Galindo (Who gives testimony).

I can't seem to find any children from this couple, but, they did settle around in the "provincia de Avalos" - and they appeared to move around Zapotiltic, Sayula, and Colima.

All in all, I really have a strong feeling that this Andres Lopez de Bueso is THE connection for the Lopez Bueso's to Spain. I feel that Nicolas Lopez de Bueso (who married Nicolasa de Guerrero y Ocon) could very well be one their kids.

Not only that, but we also find a connection to the Munguia family that lived around the same area. Could the father of Ana de Escobar, Hernando de Munguia, the progenitor of the Munguia Villela family that laid roots around Tamazula, Cotija, Sayula, etc.?

Thougts?

Daniel Serna Valencia

ok the website has needed to be updated for a few years now as the Drupal is way out of date. I checked with DreamHost who is my ISP and they say they will do it for $300 which I thought was pretty reasonable.

I've been paying for everything since inception in 2002 and I'm NOT going to pay for this. Having said that I'm not going to take the site down if you all refuse to foot this bill. So what do you think would asking each of you to donate $10 be too much to ask? I said $10 because I don't think MANY of you all will separate with a few buck but I do hope 30 of you will. . .but hey surprise me and make me a rich man and flood my mailbox with ten dollar bills.

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ok, el sitio web ha tenido que actualizarse durante algunos años ya que Drupal está muy desactualizado. Verifiqué con DreamHost, que es mi ISP, y dicen que lo harán por $300, lo que pensé que era bastante razonable.

He estado pagando por todo desde el inicio en 2002 y NO voy a pagar por esto. Habiendo dicho eso, no voy a retirar el sitio si todos se niegan a pagar esta factura. Entonces, ¿qué crees que pedir a cada uno de ustedes que done $10 sería demasiado pedir? Dije $10 porque no creo que MUCHOS de ustedes se separen con unos pocos dólares, pero espero que 30 de ustedes lo hagan. . .pero me sorprenden y me hacen rico e inundan mi buzón de billetes de diez dólares.

Hello!

My name is Paula (Smiley) Flores and I thank you for accepting me into this group/forum. While I've been researching off and on for many years, I'm always looking for more information.
Here is my family that I am looking for:
https://www.nuestrosranchos.org/pdflores

My grandfather's family was from Toyahua, bajo Nochistlan, Zacatecas. I have already found a distant relative, however, he posted back in 2010, so I don't know if he's still active. I did send him an email so we'll see! I was happy just to see that as I found a great-great uncle in his info.

Surnames I'm searching are: Chaves, Navarro, Martinez, de Leon, Perez, Jacinta

Thanks and glad to be here!!

Paula

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Quisiera pedir ayuda en unas de mis líneas. Mi décimo bisabuelo por mi lado materno el capitán Ventura de Arce y Castilla sirvió como Alcalde Mayor de Aguascalientes por unos años fue bautizado el 5 de agosto de 1656 en Tula, Hidalgo, México. Casó María Rincón Gallardo el 12 de noviembre de 1678 en la parroquia de la Asunción de Aguascalientes hija del capitán Nicolás Martín Gallardo y Juana Rincón de Ortega, II Mayorazga de Ciénega del Rincón.

A cuanto don Ventura lo que tengo es lo siguiente:

Era hijo de Pedro de Arce y Alcalde casó María de Sosa y Castilla el 28 de enero de 1650 en la parroquia de la Asunción, ciudad de México y fue bautizada en Tepetitlán, Hidalgo el 27 de enero de 1634 española hija legítima de Juan Sánchez de Orduña y Leonor Alfonso Sosa y Castilla. La susodicha casó en segundas nupcias a Íñigo Altamirano de Guevara el 4 de diciembre de 1663 en Tepetitlán, Hidalgo era originario de Puebla de los Ángeles.

Juan Sánchez de Orduña fue bautizado en la parroquia de la Asunción, Ciudad de México el 17 de junio de 1607 y casó en dicha parroquia a la señora Leonor Alfonso y Sosa Castilla el 9 de enero de 1633. Eran hijos de Diego Sánchez de Orduña y María Pinto; Francisco Alfonso y Sosa Castilla; y Luisa Ruiz de Abendaño y Rivera.

Sospecho que lo de Sánchez de Orduña son penínsulares. Pero a cuanto lo de Sosa Castilla una familia sospecho pero no he comprobado si descendian de Hernando Gutiérrez Altamrano y Francisca Osorio de Castilla. Si sé que son parientes cercanos ya que hay muchos enlaces con gente apellidado Sosa Castilla con miembros del condado de Santiago de Calimaya.

Ojalá alguien tendrá algún dato sobre estas líneas. He trabajado diligentemente en reconstuir este árbol. Tampoco sé más de los Ruiz de Abendaño y Rivera.

Gracias como siempre,

Daniel Méndez Camino

Hello, I'm researching my grandmother's (maternal) line in the mid 1700s in SLP,and I just came across a clue of an additional name: Sacramento. It is listed on a child's wedding record as Maria Prudencia Gertrudis del Sacramento Rangel. Del is not capitalized, Does this mean Sacramento is part of the surname, or an additional first name? It is the only record I found so far (after years) with that additional name listed.

Thank you,

Cynthia Jimenez

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