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Linda:

I got some persepective on this issue from Mssrs. de la Torre Berumen 
and Valdes Salazar while I was down in Mexico.

Apparently, soon after the Mexican independence, President Vicente 
Guerrero (who was mulatto) decreed that all Spaniards be expelled from 
Mexico.  In reality, many were exempted but certainly all of those who 
had been loyalists during the war of independence and those that had 
royal ties (since Mexico was now a republic) were expelled.

Those Spanish families that remained became weary of being labeled 
Spanish and particularly loyalists or royalists and thus those 
with "composed names" such as "Carlos y Godoy" or "Fernandez de Jara 
Quemada" quickly dropped parts of their names to mexicanize them.  I 
think it was somewhat arbitrary which parts they dropped.

On a similar note, I would appreciate hearing any perspectives people 
may have about how children chose whether to take on the mother's 
family name vs. the father's family name.  I have run across

I'm hoping you can help me with double surnames.  Is there a 
difference when they use De or Y? Such as Alvares del Castillo or 
Ochoa y Garibay?  How long did they usually keep the double surname?  
I haven't found a reason why some families ended up using the surname 
they chose.. Villasenor y Jaso, some went Villasenor and others went 
Jaso.. same family!

I have gone from records in Tamazula Jalisco to Chilchota Michoacan.  
So many families from that part of Jalisco came from this area of 
Michoacan in the later 1700's.  In doing marriage records from there 
I'm finding it not unusual to have the actual marriage in the home of 
a family member, was that normal for the mid 1750's?
Linda in Everett

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Arturo Ramos"  wrote:
>
> Jessica:
> 
> I think you are going to have somewhat of a difficult time since I 
> think that the Valparaiso films are not indexed in familysearch.  I 
> know that Ed Serros is researching family in that parrish so he can 
> probably give you some better tips about what to do, but it may 
> entail simply ordering the films and going through them.  Many of the 
> books from the 19th century have indexes by name, so perhaps it is 
> not as daunting as it may seem.
> 
> Good luck.

Jessica,

I have been trying to figure out how to respond to you and to Arturo's comments. I agree 
with what Arturo has said in general. The Valparaiso data is indexed well in the Mormon 
films after about 1880, so it is fairly straight forward after those dates; the Internet IGI 
(familysearch.org data) is another story and is sparse to say the least. Before 1880 it is a 
real crap-shoot, at least for me. My families came in and

Yolanda,

Sorry it has taken me so long to do the lookup for you but here it is.

 

I have taken the following excerpts from Jose Luis's book relating to Juan Yñiguez. I don't believe he is the one you are looking for because the dates and the wife's name don't coincide but just to be on the safe side
I have noted all the pages with Juan Yñiguez and the facts pertaining to each page.

 

 

Page 73:  Juan Yñiguez, married to Maria Melchora de los Reyes, padron de año 1649, hijo de Juan Yñiguez y Andrea Cortes.

 

Page 73: In 1628, Ana de Santiago, hija de Juan Iñiguez y Andrea Cortez se caso con Nicolas Estrada, hijo de Xacome Xinoves (Yñiguez) y

those books looked good to me. make sure to tape
the discussion and I
can make it part of the Nuestra Familia Unida "book discussion" section
[that is if the members vote on this and say yes].

Also the Melungeons book was questionable. Interesting topic but not
related. . .well I guess its possibly related, but only in

those books looked good to me. make sure to tape the discussion and I
can make it part of the Nuestra Familia Unida "book discussion" section
[that is if the members vote on this and say yes].

Also the Melungeons book was questionable. Interesting topic but not
related. . .well I guess its possibly related, but only in a speculative
way. It is possible that some of the original people that were slaves on
Drake's ships were Portuguese, Spanish, Turkish, Moors, or other
Mediterranean ethnicity's.

joseph

Jessica:

I think you are going to have somewhat of a difficult time since I 
think that the Valparaiso films are not indexed in familysearch.  I 
know that Ed Serros is researching family in that parrish so he can 
probably give you some better tips about what to do, but it may 
entail simply ordering the films and going through them.  Many of the 
books from the 19th century have indexes by name, so perhaps it is 
not as daunting as it may seem.

Good luck.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "jesscast1212"  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> My name is Jessica Castaneda. I am just starting to try and do 
> genealogy research on my husbands family from Zacatecas, Mexico. I 
> have worked on my lines before but I feel I am in a completely new 
> ballpark now. I have been reading your postings and am excited to 
be 
> able to learn from you all. A little bit about myself- I have a one 
> year old who is currently teething, my husband and I are in the 
> process of buying a house and

Hi all,
My name is Jessica Castaneda. I am just starting to try and do 
genealogy research on my husbands family from Zacatecas, Mexico. I 
have worked on my lines before but I feel I am in a completely new 
ballpark now. I have been reading your postings and am excited to be 
able to learn from you all. A little bit about myself- I have a one 
year old who is currently teething, my husband and I are in the 
process of buying a house and moving, and I work coordinating 
educational programs from migrant children in TN. I met my husband 
teaching English.That's enough about me.. What I know about my 
husbands family is this. (not much)

His fathers name is Crescencio Castaneda-Salazar. Mothers name is 
Juana Hernandez de Leon. They currently reside in Chihuahua but his 
father was born in Valparaiso Zacatecas Mexico. Crescenio's father 
was Antonio Castaneda-Dominguez although some say it was Castaneda-
Martinez. His wife's name was (this is where it gets confusing) some 
say Teodora

I just checked the database looking for those researching certain areas
and couldn't find the info I needed. Can you all make it a point to go
to the database and make your entry into the 'who's who' area? we have
112 members but should be under 100 members after the 31st when the
following addresses get unsubscribed from the group. That means that if
we have 64 entries there are 36 valid members of the group that still
need to enter their who's who information. Its easy and helpful to new
members.

joseph

ps: the following are on track to be unsubscribed if I don't get a
simple email letting me know you are interested in maintaining your
membership and giving me a time frame when you will send in your
representative genealogy file:

   amador_flore...     zapOgram@...

   artalbec     artalbec@...

   cristal828     cristal828@...

   ftworthtexgo... TexGonzales@...

   hugz803     hugz803@...

   jmdldsmty     jmdldsmty@...

   josealfredod...     jjetmech01@...

http://www.findagrave.com/

i found two relatives using the above site.

joseph

I think the Lulu solution may work for him on upcoming projects, except for the fact that 
shipping the books to Mexico is very cost prohibitive and would therefore make it a bit 
less viable than it would for someone looking to distribute them in the United States... i.e. 
his market in Mexico is not going to go online to order books from the U.S. that will be 
delivered by the Mexican postal system.

The problem that he has with the reprinting of his HIstoria de Totatiche is that he does not 
have an electronic manuscript.  He typed out the whole book and the State of Jalisco's 
Ministry fo Culture transcribed, edited it and had it typeset for printing.  They will now not 
share with him those materials as they consider them their property, though they have 
given him permission to reprint the material on his own.  So basically he is left with having 
the book photographed and reprinted from those photographs if I understand him 
correctly.

I am looking at publishing a historical

http://nuestrafamiliaunida.com/sneak_peak_David_E_Rencher.pdf

here is a pdf file sent to me by my FHC director on the Scanstone project

joseph

I just got off the phone with my aunt Emilia in New
Mexico.  She called to thank me for the present I sent her, and as usual I started to pump her about the family history.  She is the last of her siblings (my Mother's sister), the only relative of her generation I have left) and she is 92, but sharp as a tack.  We were discussing the fact that her grandmother could read and write, which was unusual for a Hispanic woman born in 1865.  My aunt said my great-grandmother was very smart and talented, not only could read and write, but could sew, cook, make wine, make

My de la Torres were also from the Jerez area. My ancestress Doña Juana de la Torre was married to Miguel Olague in the 1600s. We're probably related. Cool! Marge:)

On Jan 6, 2006, at 9:13 PM, Susana Leniski wrote:

Margarita:

 

My great-grandmother was De la Torre. I'm studing last names like Carlos de Godoy, Muro, Carrillo, Salinas and of course de la torre with many lines.

 

regards

 

susana

----- Original Message -----

From: Margarita Vallazza

To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 6:45 PM

So what is your Jerezana great-grandma's surname? Marge:)

On Jan 6, 2006, at 2:20 PM, Susana Leniski wrote:

On my part, My grand mother Maria de los Angeles Cansino, was the daughter of Don Enrique Cansino. He was the brother of Eduardo's father. My great grandfather emigrated from Malaga, in the Andalusia region of Spain in 1880's. He relocated to Zacatecas, Mexico. He married my great grandmother who was from Jerez, Zacatecas. Genealogy that now I'm researching. My great grandfather left his whole family back in Spain.