Retonos de Espana en la Nueva Galicia

 I called the library system in El Paso abotu the
book mentioned below.
 
 
If anyone can get to any of these places, there is a copy
of the book at these places:
 
In Brownsville, TX at  Brownsville U.
 
Stanford U. in the genealogical library
 
At Berkely U. in Berkely, CA
 
At Iowa U., IA
 
Also in the Cal State library system in
California
 
The librarian told me that the book is usually in the
reference library because of what it is.
 
 
Elvira
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:06
AM
Subject: RE: [ranchos] Re: Retonos de
Espana en la Nueva Galicia

Ray and Jose,
 
I am interested in the Jauregui, Xauregui, Macias and Yñiguez and more
specifically from the Nochistlan/Tlachichila Zac regions as I have all 3 in my
or my husband's lines.
Alicia Avelar de Carrillo
de San Jose, Ca

zendean usa20@...>
wrote:
Ray; I too am interested about the

Luz Montejano Hilton

has  anyone tried these addreses for Montejano Hilton?

This one is for her  radio program (on the Internet)

genealogiaparatodos@...



luzmontejano@...



this one is her webpage. she is the one that is responsible for these
pages, mail goes directly to her.




Elvira

www.prodigyweb.net.mx/luzmontejano



Pedro & Pioquinta Pineda/o; Arteaga & Gonzalez -- Tlaltenango

Hello,

I just wanted to see if the name Pedro Pineda/o in
Tlaltenango, Zacatecas meant anything to anyone, or
that of his wife Pioquinta ____dosa. I found a record
a few weeks ago that has helped me further along in my
own Pineda research...please review the names and let
me know if they intersect with any of your research.
As far as I know, they were all born in Tlaltenango
Thanks.

1 Pedro Pineda/o
  + Pioquinta ____dosa

2 Nicanor Pineda/o (b 1884)
  + Emilia Gonzalez (b 1897 to Juan Gonzalez & Dolores
Arteaga)

3 Jesus Maria Pineda (b 1930 in Laredo, Texas)

Thanks and I hope to hear from you.

Chris Pineda

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Mariachi's: introduction-new member of los ranchos

emilie,

I dont know about Joseph but you got me drooling girl!!! smile



              ~~glo~~







From: "Emilie Garcia" 
Reply-To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
To: 
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Mariachi's: introduction-new member of los ranchos
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 07:58:35 -0800

Yes, Joseph, it's something to celebrate----our ancient RNA/DNA calling to
us to find each other. Sure, I'd make capirotada, but I prefer posole to
menudo since I don't like tripa---I prefer pork shoulder. I could skip the
lengua and cabeza (eeww---mad cow disease).


We are in Las Vegas, and at the first opportunity we found a good Mexican
restaurant, Diego's at the MGM. It was great--a guy made fresh guacamole at
our table, and the food was so good. I had the green chile tamales (made
from fresh corn) a Tesoro margarita (smooooth), chiles rellenos; my husband
had tacos al carbon (garlic-lime marinated skirt steak, etc on a soft corn
tortilla); three

Nueva Galicia

Hi Joseph:
 
Tough assignment, trying to determine which
states are covered on this  "Nueva Galicia" map.  The boundries are
not well defined.
 
I'll give it a try.  The map covers the area
of Mexico from about 23 degrees North latitude to about 18 degrees North
latitude. If you look at a modern map of Mexico, you'll see the following
States are inside this area: Nayarit, southern part of Sinaloa,  Jalisco,
Michoacan, Guerrero, Southern part of Zacatecas, Aguascalientes, Mexico,
Guanajuato, Veracruz, San Luis Potosí and I probably missed a
couple.
 
I have a book that shows a map of Nueva Galicia
in the XVI century. It defines the area sorrounded by these places: 
(Starting in the South and going clock-wise )  Queretaro, Guadalajara,
El Teúl, Colotlan, Durango, Cuencamé, Parras, Saltillo, Ciudad Valles. 
Inside the area are: Guanjuato, Jalostotitlan, Zacatecas, and San Luis
Potosi.  You got to remember that La Nueva Galicia  expanded from here
in later years.  I am

Retonos de Espana en la Nueva Galicia

Dear Maria:  I would so appreciate knowing if the books cover the Romero or Garana families.  I have had no success in finding the Garana connection so far.  thanks in advance.  Mary Garana Allen

readysetgo95814 wrote:
The books cover the first Spanish settlers of Los Altos de Jalisco. 
Some families do extend to other states, so you might find some of
your ancestry covered in one of the chapters.  I have a copy of Tomo
I which contains a "Plan general de la obra" for all the subsequent
Tomos (II - VI) and has all the surnames covered.  If anyone wants me
to check for any surnames send me an e-mail.

Each chapter begins with the first settlers and then traces their
male descendancy. Sources are cited for every bit of data.

Maria
Cortez

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Susana Leniski"
wrote:
>
> Joseph:
>
> Do you think the book covers Zacatecas? Or is just Jalisco?
> If the book covers parts of Zacatecas. I would like a copy. Please
let me know how much it

Southern California meeting

Ill be there if its in southern california, I live in San Bernardino CA



              ~~glo~~







From: "Peggy Delgado" 
Reply-To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
To: 
Subject: RE: [ranchos] Southern California meeting
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:30:20 -0800

I would love a meeting in Southern California/Los Angeles area.  I'm from
the San Gabriel Valley.
I'd love the opportunity to meet with anyone from this group.  I'm thinking
February would be good since
we all would need a month to "decompress" from the holidays......

Peggy Delgado
  -----Original Message-----

From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf
Of

rosa9972
  Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 8:29 PM
  To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ranchos] Southern California meeting


  Hi all!  I just thought I'd write to ask who may be interested in a
  Southern California or maybe even a Central California meeting.
  Since I was so impressed with the

Nueva Galicia

Well thanks for asking. I did a quick search and came up with the
Benson Library collection of maps in Austin:



http://www.lib.utexas.edu/benson/historicmaps/index.html



but specifically:

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/benson/historicmaps/index3.html



see here for a nice looking map from 1653 of Nueva Galicia. Basically
it was the area we are studying in Ranchos as well as parts of several
other states. Can someone explain a little better than me about what
those other states are?



thanks,



joseph





zendean wrote:

Ray; I too am interested about the Iniguiz line. One of my
ancestors is an Iniguiz and I know so little about them. Where is Nueva
Galicia ? My ancestor (Macias) are said to be from Galicia, in Spain. I
presume that Nueva Galicia is in the new world but don't know where.
 
With respect,
 
Jose Macias





-----Original Message-----

From: Raymond Jauregui

Sent: Dec 14, 2005 10:23 PM

To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [ranchos] Re: Retonos de Espana en

Southern California meeting

I think Peggy Delgado is right. February would be a
good month to shoot for. I live inthe San Gabiel valley, like
Peggy.
 
Zendean 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 9:30
PM
Subject: RE: [ranchos] Southern
California meeting

I
would love a meeting in Southern California/Los Angeles area.  I'm from
the San Gabriel Valley.
I'd
love the opportunity to meet with anyone from this group.  I'm thinking
February would be good since
we
all would need a month to "decompress" from the
holidays......
 
Peggy Delgado
-----Original Message-----
From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of rosa9972
Sent:
Wednesday, December 14, 2005 8:29 PM
To:
ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Southern California
meeting

Hi all!  I just thought I'd write to
ask who may be interested in a
Southern California or

Empty Genealogy Folders


if anyone has some extra time I need a volunteer to go through the
genealogies and see if any of the folders are empty. I found one that
was empty and am now wondering if any of the others are empty. Email me
privately if you want to do this.


Also if anyone would care to go through the links and check to make sure
none of the links are broken that would be a great help. While you are
at it I would greatly appreciate it if you would "COPY" and paste into
an email what all the links are. that way if Yahoo ever has a
catastrophe we'll be in a little better situation in rebuilding. Again
email me privately


thanks,

joseph



Southern California meeting

Rosalinda,
I think this is a great idea.  Since I'm in the So. Cal-Los Angeles area I'd really like a meeting in So. Cal, however, depending on the timing I may be able to make it to a Central Cal meeting.

Olivia Jaurequi-Reyes
Rowland Heights, CA

rosa9972 wrote:
Hi all!  I just thought I'd write to ask who may be interested in a
Southern California or maybe even a Central California meeting. 
Since I was so impressed with the Sacramento meeting, I would like
to arrange something similar, since I'm sure there are many members
who would like to meet in the Southern California region.

Please tell me the following:

1.  Do you prefer a meeting in the Los Angeles area or Central
California, as
someone suggested in a previous message, so that
members in Northern California could meet us?

2.  Is January or February the best month for you?


If I can get ideas as to timing and interest, I can then offer
choices. 

Thanks!

Rosalinda

Retonos de Espana en la Nueva Galicia

Ray and Jose,
 
I am interested in the Jauregui, Xauregui, Macias and Yñiguez and more specifically from the Nochistlan/Tlachichila Zac regions as I have all 3 in my or my husband's lines.
Alicia Avelar de Carrillo
de San Jose, Ca

zendean wrote:
Ray; I too am interested about the Iniguiz line. One of my ancestors is an Iniguiz and I know so little about them. Where is Nueva Galicia ? My ancestor (Macias) are said to be from Galicia, in Spain. I presume that Nueva Galicia is in the new world but don't know where.
 
With respect,
 
Jose Macias


-----Original Message-----
From: Raymond Jauregui
Sent: Dec 14, 2005
10:23 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ranchos] Re: Retonos de Espana en la Nueva Galicia

Maria,
 
As you have volunteered, would you check what your volume has for; "Jauregui (or Xauregui, Jaure, Xaure), and I(Y)niguez".
 
Ray Jauregui
Sammamish, WA



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Southern California meeting

Either a central and southern California location
would be great.

Albert Duarte Prieto
Santa Maria, California

--- Alicia Carrillo  wrote:

> Rosalinda,
>    
>   I live in Northern California and was present for
> the Sacramento meetup but I would be willing to
> travel in February to either the Central or Southern
> California areas. When It comes to geneaology I am
> willing to go, provided I don't have a pressing
> previous commitment. Please count me in.
>    
>   Muchas Gracias, 
>    
>   Alicia Carrillo de San Jose, Ca
> 
> rosa9972  wrote:
>   Hi all!  I just thought I'd write to ask who may
> be interested in a 
> Southern California or maybe even a Central
> California meeting.  
> Since I was so impressed with the Sacramento
> meeting, I would like 
> to arrange something similar, since I'm sure there
> are many members 
> who would like to meet in the Southern California
> region.
> 
> Please tell me the following:
> 
> 1.  Do you prefer a

Retonos de Espana en la Nueva Galicia

Ray; I too am interested about the Iniguiz line. One of my ancestors is an Iniguiz and I know so little about them. Where is Nueva Galicia ? My ancestor (Macias) are said to be from Galicia, in Spain. I presume that Nueva Galicia is in the new world but don't know where.

 

With respect,

 

Jose Macias


-----Original Message-----
From: Raymond Jauregui
Sent: Dec 14, 2005 10:23 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ranchos] Re: Retonos de Espana en la Nueva Galicia


Maria,

 

As you have volunteered, would you check what your volume has for; "Jauregui (or Xauregui, Jaure, Xaure), and I(Y)niguez".

 

Ray Jauregui

Sammamish, WA







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Retonos de Espana en la Nueva Galicia

I have seen this beautiful last name in my research. 
Is it Basque?

Alberto Duarte Prieto
Santa Maria, California 

--- Raymond Jauregui  wrote:

> Maria,
> 
> As you have volunteered, would you check what your
> volume has for; "Jauregui (or Xauregui, Jaure,
> Xaure), and I(Y)niguez".
> 
> Ray Jauregui
> Sammamish, WA


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Retoños de España en la Nueva Galicia


I would be interested in a copy.

 

Emilie Garcia,

Port Orchard, WA ----


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Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:08
PM

Subject: [ranchos] Retoños de España en
la Nueva Galicia



Francisco has been in communication with Mariano
Gonzalez Leal and has
received permission to make copies of the book and
send them to one
location in the US where they would be distributed to the
indivduals
interested. I'm understanding that he is talking about the
current
edition and that there is due out an update but I am not sure
when.

If he is talking about the current edition how many of you would
be
interested in a photocopied copy? Let me know so we can get an idea of

how much interest there
is.

thanks,

joseph




Mariachi's: introduction-new member of los ranchos

Yes, Joseph, it's something to celebrate----our ancient RNA/DNA calling to
us to find each other.  Sure, I'd make capirotada, but I prefer posole to
menudo since I don't like tripa---I prefer pork shoulder. I could skip the
lengua and cabeza (eeww---mad cow disease).  
 
We are in Las Vegas, and at the first opportunity we found a good
Mexican restaurant, Diego's at the MGM.  It was great--a guy made fresh
guacamole at our table, and the food was so good.  I had the green chile
tamales (made from fresh corn) a Tesoro margarita (smooooth), chiles rellenos;
my husband had tacos al carbon (garlic-lime marinated skirt steak, etc on a soft
corn tortilla); three flavors of flan and coffee for dessert-----are you
drooling, Joseph?
 
I think after a few margaritas we could all do a passable Jarabe
Tapatio. 
 
Emilie
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 3:53
PM
Subject: [ranchos]

Retoños de España en la Nueva Galicia

Joseph,

How much is it?



              ~~glo~~







From: Joseph Puentes 
Reply-To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
To: LosRanchos 
Subject: [ranchos] Retoños de España en la Nueva Galicia
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:08:30 -0500


Francisco has been in communication with Mariano Gonzalez Leal and has
received permission to make copies of the book and send them to one
location in the US where they would be distributed to the indivduals
interested. I'm understanding that he is talking about the current
edition and that there is due out an update but I am not sure when.

If he is talking about the current edition how many of you would be
interested in a photocopied copy? Let me know so we can get an idea of
how much interest there is.

thanks,

joseph








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Luz Montejano Email Address

My email to her bounced. Does anyone have a current email address for her?

thanks,

joseph

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Retonos de Espana en la Nueva Galicia

Hi Maria:
 
Could you please check to see if the
 "Gonzalez de Hermosillo"  from Jalostotitlan, Jalisco, are
included?
Thank you.
 
John Gonzalez
Wildomar, CA.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 8:39
PM
Subject: [ranchos] Re: Retonos de Espana
en la Nueva Galicia

The books cover the first Spanish settlers of Los Altos de
Jalisco. 
Some families do extend to other states, so you might find
some of
your ancestry covered in one of the chapters.  I have a copy
of Tomo
I which contains a "Plan general de la obra" for all the
subsequent
Tomos (II - VI) and has all the surnames covered.  If
anyone wants me
to check for any surnames send me an e-mail.

Each
chapter begins with the first settlers and then traces their
male
descendancy. Sources are cited for every bit of data.

Maria
Cortez

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Susana Leniski"

Retoños de España en la Nueva Galicia

I am interested also but I would need to know the cost and the terms.
 
Alicia Carrillo

Margarita Vallazza wrote:

I'm interested but I want to know how much it will cost. Marge:)

On Dec 14, 2005, at 6:26 PM, Joseph Puentes wrote:

> I don't know. . .i would say it depends on how the book is formatted.
> If its 6 volumes all bound together probably not but if its 6 separate
> maybe so. I'm sure more info will be come soon.
>
> maybe direct your email to Francisco since he is in direct
> communication with Mariano Gonzalez Leal
>
> thanks,
>
> joseph
>
>
> John Gonzalez wrote:
>> Joseph:
>>  
>> I have just read the second mesage where I found out that the next
>>
edition of "Retoños"  will consist of six volumes.  I am wondering if
>> it is going to be possible to purchase just the volume that covers
>> the area, or family of interest,  without having to buy the other
>> five?  Is it going to be a requirement to purchase the complete set?
>>  
>>  
>> John Gonzalez
>> Wildomar

Southern California meeting

Rosalinda,
 
I live in Northern California and was present for the Sacramento meetup but I would be willing to travel in February to either the Central or Southern California areas. When It comes to geneaology I am willing to go, provided I don't have a pressing previous commitment. Please count me in.
 
Muchas Gracias,
 
Alicia Carrillo de San Jose, Ca

rosa9972 wrote:

Hi all!  I just thought I'd write to ask who may be interested in a
Southern California or maybe even a Central California meeting. 
Since I was so impressed with the Sacramento meeting, I would like
to arrange something similar, since I'm sure there are many members
who would like to meet in the Southern California region.

Please
tell me the following:

1.  Do you prefer a meeting in the Los Angeles area or Central
California, as someone suggested in a previous message, so that
members in Northern California could meet us?

2.  Is January or February the best month for you?


If I can get ideas as to

Southern California meeting

I
would love a meeting in Southern California/Los Angeles area.  I'm from the
San Gabriel Valley.
I'd
love the opportunity to meet with anyone from this group.  I'm thinking
February would be good since
we all
would need a month to "decompress" from the holidays......
 
Peggy
Delgado
-----Original Message-----
From: ranchos@...om
[mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of rosa9972
Sent:
Wednesday, December 14, 2005 8:29 PM
To:
ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Southern California
meeting

Hi all!  I just thought I'd write to ask
who may be interested in a
Southern California or maybe even a Central
California meeting. 
Since I was so impressed with the Sacramento
meeting, I would like
to arrange something similar, since I'm sure there
are many members
who would like to meet in the Southern California
region.

Please tell me the following:

1.  Do you prefer a
meeting in the Los Angeles area or Central
California, as someone
suggested in a

Retonos de Espana en la Nueva Galicia

The books cover the first Spanish settlers of Los Altos de Jalisco.  
Some families do extend to other states, so you might find some of 
your ancestry covered in one of the chapters.  I have a copy of Tomo 
I which contains a "Plan general de la obra" for all the subsequent 
Tomos (II - VI) and has all the surnames covered.  If anyone wants me 
to check for any surnames send me an e-mail.

Each chapter begins with the first settlers and then traces their 
male descendancy. Sources are cited for every bit of data.

Maria Cortez

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Susana Leniski"  
wrote:
>
> Joseph:
> 
> Do you think the book covers Zacatecas? Or is just Jalisco?
> If the book covers parts of Zacatecas. I would like a copy. Please 
let me know how much it would  be.? 
> 
> Thank you 
> 
> susana leniski
>