PAF 5

John,

That must be a bug in the software.  I just tried running the same
procedure and the same thing happens:  I can preview the Index but
then it doesn't appear in the Word document.  I'm using PAF 5. Anyone?

Victor
Reynosa, Mexico

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "John Gonzalez" 1gnzlz@v...> wrote:
>
> Do we have a PAF Guru in the group?  I need some help. PLEASE  I know 
> we have a number of members using PAF, I am hoping somebody can help me.
> 
> I am trying to create a file using the "Books"option and would like to 
> include an index to go along with it.
> 
> I can create the file and its index by selecting the "Print to a file" 
> option and by selecting the "index" option also. I preview it,  then I 
> save it, but when I look at the saved file, the index is missing!
> 
> What am I doing wrong?  Any ideas?  Can it be a limitation to this 
> program?  I have tried using Wordpad and also Microsoft Word to look at 
> the saved file, same results.
> 
> Any help or suggestions

PAF 5

Do we have a PAF Guru in the group?  I need some help. PLEASE  I know 
we have a number of members using PAF, I am hoping somebody can help me.

I am trying to create a file using the "Books"option and would like to 
include an index to go along with it.

I can create the file and its index by selecting the "Print to a file" 
option and by selecting the "index" option also. I preview it,  then I 
save it, but when I look at the saved file, the index is missing!

What am I doing wrong?  Any ideas?  Can it be a limitation to this 
program?  I have tried using Wordpad and also Microsoft Word to look at 
the saved file, same results.

Any help or suggestions will be appreciated.
Thank you. 

John Gonzalez
Wildomar CA. 




successful trip & Garana surname

Thanks, Marge, for the suggestion.  I'll try it.  Mary

Margarita Vallazza wrote:
Have you tried another variant? Guarana? marge:)
On Dec 17, 2005, at 10:48 PM, Mary Allen wrote:

> Hello Victor,
>  
> I have searched the surname Grana but found nothing.  I do know that
> Jose Adalberto Garana was born in 1873 and that his first child was
> born in 1905.  That leads me to believe that he probably married @
> 1904.  Of course, I recall once when he made my grandmother angry, she
> accused him of being Cuban.  But, searching Cuba didn't help.
> Yesterday, I had an e-mail from a person who said that a  Garrana had
> gone from Malta to Lebanon and then possibly to Mexico.  I am working
> on
that.
>  
> I have one other possibility. Maybe I can find information through the
> Jesuits. There may be a central house in Mexico that would have
> membership files.  I have that as one of my tasks.  In fact, that may
> be the only way to find him.  I really suspect that

successful trip & Garana surname

Have you tried another variant? Guarana? marge:)

On Dec 17, 2005, at 10:48 PM, Mary Allen wrote:


Hello Victor,

 

I have searched the surname Grana but found nothing.  I do know that Jose Adalberto Garana was born in 1873 and that his first child was born in 1905.  That leads me to believe that he probably married @ 1904.  Of course, I recall once when he made my grandmother angry, she accused him of being Cuban.  But, searching Cuba didn't help. Yesterday, I had an e-mail from a person who said that a  Garrana had gone from Malta to Lebanon and then possibly to Mexico.  I am working on that.

 

I have one other possibility. Maybe I can find information through the Jesuits. There may be a central house in Mexico that would have membership files.  I have that as one of my tasks.  In fact, that may be the only way to find him.  I really suspect that Garana was not his real name at all or it may have been his mother's name.  My grandfather was so intelligent, so educated, so aristocratic

Dear Myrtle


I would highly recommend listening to the Dear Myrtle Genealogy podcast
for information that can help us in our research. Specifically she had a
great show with some powerful resources on recording "Oral History."
have a listen to this podcast and all of her shows:


http://ia300036.us.archive.org/1/items/DearMYRTLEs_Family_History_Hour_Internet_Radio_Show_13_Dec_2005/DearMYRTLE2005Dec13.mp3

[if the above URL wraps to the next line you'll have to rebuild it]

or you can access it from here as well:
http://www.dearmyrtle.com/05/1213r.htm


here is the URL for her show in general:

http://www.dearmyrtle.com/listen.htm

joseph





successful trip & Garana surname

Hello Victor,
 
I have searched the surname Grana but found nothing.  I do know that Jose Adalberto Garana was born in 1873 and that his first child was born in 1905.  That leads me to believe that he probably married @ 1904.  Of course, I recall once when he made my grandmother angry, she accused him of being Cuban.  But, searching Cuba didn't help. Yesterday, I had an e-mail from a person who said that a  Garrana had gone from Malta to Lebanon and then possibly to Mexico.  I am working on that.
 
I have one other possibility. Maybe I can find information through the Jesuits. There may be a central house in Mexico that would have membership files.  I have that as one of my tasks.  In fact, that may be the only way to find him.  I really suspect that Garana was not his real name at all or it may have been his mother's name.  My grandfather was so intelligent, so
educated, so aristocratic and very difficult to get along with and his past seemed obsured by vagueness and mystery.
 

successful trip & Garana surname

Mary,

I guess this is just an idle question, but have you searched the
surname Grana and/or Grama?  

Also, if the person in question was associated with the Augustinians
and the Jesuits, have you considered the possibility that he was not
born in México but elsewhere?

Just some thoughts!

Victor

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Mary Allen  wrote:
>
> Hi Victor
>   I know her!  You found me!  My family and friends call me Nancy. 
You'll also find my brother Edward placing similar notices everywhere.
 We have been doing this for years and years with no results.
>    
>   Mary  
> 
> "v.h.villarreal"  wrote:
>   Mary,
> 
> Just curious to know if a person who is also searching for the Garana
> surname in "Hispanic Genealogy Forum" is someone you know.
> 
> Read the following:
> 
> [quote]
> Has anyone ever come across the surname GARANA? I am looking for any
> information about my grandfather JOSE ADALBERTO GARANA and my
> grandmother PETRA

successful trip & Garana surname

Hi Victor
I know her!  You found me!  My family and friends call me Nancy.  You'll also find my brother Edward placing similar notices everywhere.  We have been doing this for years and years with no results.
 
Mary 

"v.h.villarreal" wrote:

Mary,

Just curious to know if a person who is also searching for the Garana
surname in "Hispanic Genealogy Forum" is someone you know.

Read the following:

[quote]
Has anyone ever come across the surname GARANA? I am looking for any
information about my grandfather JOSE ADALBERTO GARANA and my
grandmother PETRA ROMERO GONZALEZ (GARANA). She lived in Salinas del
Penon Blanco,
SLP,SLP and in the city of San Luis Potosi.

She was the child of VICTOR ROMERO GALVAN and the grandchild of MONICO
ROMERO CARRERA who may have lived in Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco.

Of JOSE ADALBERTO GARANA I know only that he was somehow associated
with the Augustinians as a child and that later he was a jesuit
seminarian. He was never ordained. He had to leave San Luis

successful trip & Garana surname

Mary,

Just curious to know if a person who is also searching for the Garana
surname in "Hispanic Genealogy Forum" is someone you know.

Read the following:

[quote]
Has anyone ever come across the surname GARANA? I am looking for any
information about my grandfather JOSE ADALBERTO GARANA and my
grandmother PETRA ROMERO GONZALEZ (GARANA). She lived in Salinas del
Penon Blanco, SLP,SLP and in the city of San Luis Potosi.

She was the child of VICTOR ROMERO GALVAN and the grandchild of MONICO
ROMERO CARRERA who may have lived in Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco.

Of JOSE ADALBERTO GARANA I know only that he was somehow associated
with the Augustinians as a child and that later he was a jesuit
seminarian. He was never ordained. He had to leave San Luis Potosi
with Petra and three children in 1917 for being too outspoken. I have
some of his writings and I can see why some would find him
uncomfortable to their cause.

Nancy37710
[end of quote]

Victor





Batch number searches.

Jose,

A "Batch Number Search", is certain, way to search the IGI at
FamilySearch.org, where you can narrow your search parameters, down to 
the City and Parish Level.  Provided, that you know the batch numbers,
for the area where you are searching.  There are two places, to find
the Batch Numbers, one is the IGI itself (as you perform searches, you
can look at the bottom of the screen and see the source information,
such as film number, and the batch number, if one has been assigned.),
the second way, is by looking at the "Parish and Vital Records List",
that is only available on microfiche at your local FHC, if they still
have it.

The CD mentioned, is a resource disc, that I have compiled from
different sources, such as genealogy conferences, websites, and other
sources.  Because, there is lots of information available, about
hispanic research, but there is no central location, for it all. 
Also, on the disc, there is a scanned copy, of the "Parish and Vital
Records List", for

successful trip

Mary,

Glad to hear of your fruitful trip to Guanajuato.  Thanks for sharing
your experiences with all of us.  Enjoy the Holydays.  Peace!

Victor

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Mary Allen  wrote:
>
>     Hello!
>    
>   I actually returned on December 8 from Mexico City and San Felipe
"Torres Mochas", Guanajuato,  but I believe a large piece of my heart
is still in Mexico. That trip has totally changed my life. Really. I
don't really know where to begin because it was such an incredible
experience. 
>    






Juaregui's/Xauregui's

DOES  ANYONE IN THE GROUP HAVE JAUREGUI FAMILY IN CHIH, CHIH?  I KNOW IT'S NOT OUR TARGET AREA BUT I HAVEN'T HAD ANY LUCK FINDING THE BIRTH PLACE FOR MERCEDES JAUREGUI WHO MARRIED GABRIELA MOLINA ABT ABOUT 1880.        YOLANDA M PEREZ

Alicia Carrillo wrote:


lareina2@... wrote:
Hi Alicia--
 
Would you look up one name for me in your book?  I have an ancestor, Maria Manuela Duran, who was married in 1732 in Tlaltenango, so I guess she was born around 1715
or so.  Her marriage record notes that she was born in Nochistlan, but it did not note  her parents' names.  She married Domingo Perez.
 
Rosalinda,
 
I took the time to do the lookup and I find that all of the Maria Duran's in this book were born prior to 1700. It may be that she's the daughter of one of these Duranes. The name Duran is very prominent in Nochistlan, Teocaltiche and Xalostitlan.
 
Capitulo 2: Descendencia de Juan Ximon Duran y Regina de Aguayo, has many references to many given names for

YNIGUES LINE

HOLA ALICIA,   IN MY HUSBAND'S LINE I FOUND JUAN DE YNIGUES MARRIED TO JACINTHA BUGARIN, I FOUND 7 CHILDREN FOR THEM AND A MARRIAGE DATE OF APRIL 1820 IN ATOLINGA, ZACATECAS.  COULD ANY OF THIS BE IN YOUR BOOK?   I HAVEN'T LOOKED FOR INFO ON HIS LINE BUT I WAS JUST WONDERING.    GRACIAS   YOLANDA

Alicia Carrillo wrote:
Irma, Ray and Jose Luis,
 
I'm afraid I was too hasty in saying that the Xauregui's were not to be found in Jose Luis' book. You know what they say, haste makes waste.
I found many chapters that reference Xauregui's. I did not find them initially because they fall under the descendants of families of different names. The book has 100 chapters but none of the chapters have titles with Xauregui's listed.
 
In order to find this surname you must go to the other index towards the back of the book which identifies pages where a specific surname can be found.
 
If anyone wants me to do a lookup just give me a name and an approximate date. Most of the

successful trip

Marge:  You would have loved it, especially if you love people or are a people watcher.  So many beautiful faces; such a variety.
 
I agree Isais is a beautiful name.  This particular person was Elias Isais. He married Maria Guadalupe Romero a daughter of Maria Guadalupe Salinas and Marcelino Romero De Esnaurrizar. I suspect this family  lived in San Luis Potosi, SLP. 
 
Enrique has a fabulous photo of the first De Esnaurrizar on the tree.  I saw the original, in fact. Enrique pulled it out of a little velvet covered box.  It is a profile carved out of wax. It was beautiful with the high collar and the curling sideburn.  This gentleman was quite important and a political figure in San Luis Potosi.   Feliz Navidad!   Mary

Margarita Vallazza wrote:

Heavens! What a fascinating narrative...wish I could have gone with
you!  I have Saldivar and de Llamas and Chavez blood from Jerez,
Zacatecas.  Not your neck of the woods at all.  A member of our family
in the 1700s

Retoños de España en la Nueva Galicia

Will you please check for my family names from Jalisco?? They are
Romero and de la Torre from the Guadalajara and Tepatitlan areas of
Jalisco. I'm not sure if they started there or moved there from
other areas. They were there at least from the mid to late 1800's.


Thank you for your help.

Linda Romero


Maria Cortez wrote:
  The books cover the first Spanish settlers of Los Altos de Jalisco.
Some families do extend to other states, so you might find some of
your ancestry covered in one of the chapters.  I have a copy of Tomo
I which contains a "Plan general de la obra" for all the subsequent
Tomos (II - VI) and has all the surnames covered.  If anyone wants me
to check for any surnames send me an e-mail.

Each chapter begins with the first settlers and then traces their
male descendancy. Sources are cited for every bit of data.

Maria Cortez


	

successful trip

Heavens! What a fascinating narrative...wish I could have gone with
you! I have Saldivar and de Llamas and Chavez blood from Jerez,
Zacatecas. Not your neck of the woods at all. A member of our family
in the 1700s married into the Isais family, which I think is a
beautiful name. Merry Christmas from Marge V.:)



successful trip

Hello!
 
I actually returned on December 8 from Mexico City and San Felipe "Torres Mochas", Guanajuato,  but I believe a large piece of my heart is still in Mexico. That trip has totally changed my life. Really. I don't really know where to begin because it was such an incredible experience. 
 
Much of the success of this trip I attribute to the kind help of many of you. There is Carol Turner who advised me about collecting "classic" photos, which I did.  I purchased a good digital camera just before I left and gave up trying to master the manual on the plane.  Luckily my new primo's son was into things electronic and taught me how to use it. Lucky me!  My 80-year-old primo Enrique Guzman Romero  has been into genealogy for decades and has written extensively about his town especially researching why it is called
"Torres Mochas".  He has  a magnificent collection of photos of several generations of the Romero family.  The most outstanding was his collection of wedding photos. 

Batch number searches.

Hi Jonathan:
 
What are you and Susan referring to when you talk about, "Batch Number searches"? You mentioned a CD as source of information, Are the contents of this CD, available at any web site on the INTERNET?
 
Thanks.
 
JRGL.
Mexico City.

mexicanfhr wrote:
Susana,

Yes, I am still going, to the FHL. I get done, there 2 to 3 times, a
month.  In fact, I am trying right now, to get approved, so that I can
teach classes at the FHL. And also, that the Library workers, can use
my disc, in helping the patrons.

When you come, in May.  Just let me when you are
coming, and I will
make arraangements, to be there.

Also, if anyone is interested in learning, about performing Batch
Number searchs,  I just uploaded Powerpoint presentation on Batch
Number searches, at the Mexican FHR group.

thanks,
Jonathan
 


Do You Yahoo!?
La mejor conexión a Internet y 2GB extra a tu correo por $100 al mes. http://net.yahoo.com.mx

Juaregui's/Xauregui's



lareina2@... wrote:
Hi Alicia--
 
Would you look up one name for me in your book?  I have an ancestor, Maria Manuela Duran, who was married in 1732 in Tlaltenango, so I guess she was born around 1715 or so.  Her marriage record notes that she was born in Nochistlan, but it did not note  her parents' names.  She married Domingo Perez.
 
Rosalinda,
 
I took the time to do the lookup and I find that all of the Maria Duran's in this book were born prior to 1700. It may be that she's the daughter of one of these Duranes. The name Duran is very prominent in Nochistlan,
Teocaltiche and Xalostitlan.
 
Capitulo 2: Descendencia de Juan Ximon Duran y Regina de Aguayo, has many references to many given names for Duranes but mostly for the 17th century. They have baptisms, confirmations and marriages as well as death records, land grants or deeds, wills and partial testaments, also marriage investigations.
 
If you want more detailed information, don't hesitate to ask, I will be

[Fwd: [mexicanfhr] Mexican FHR Resource disk]

Just a little note........when I was in Salt Lake City in
September with Mickey Garcia we met with Jonathan and he is the nicest
guy!  He was very helpful and courteous!  As usual, we did not have
enough time to spend with him,  only one day!   We told him of
our proposed trip to SLC next October for the Hispanic Conference and he agreed
to do a small presentation.  At that time we suggested he give a
presentation on batch numbers because that is what he was helping us with. 
Perhaps we can come up with some suggestions on topics he can help us
with.  When I spoke to the Sales Director of the Best Western Plaza Inn, he
said he could provide us with a meeting room if we had enough
attendees. 
 
 I know everyone is busy with the holidays right now
but maybe in January we can start working on this......
 
Josie in San Antonio



From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph
Puentes
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 2:06 AM
To:
LosRanchos

[Fwd: [mexicanfhr] Mexican FHR Resource disk]

here is a message Jonathan sent to his Mexican FHR group. I've invited
him before to announce this on Ranchos so maybe I beat him to it. In
another email to his group he stated that the cost is $10.



good information here with many many hours of work done to put it
together. contact him directly if you want one.



joseph



ps: also for those that are researching outside of our target area this
group is a good one to join. Jonathan has been and continues to be very
helpful.





-------- Original Message --------

Subject: [mexicanfhr] Mexican FHR Resource disk
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 01:09:16 +0000
From: mexicanfhr
Reply-To: mexicanfhr@yahoogroups.com
To: mexicanfhr@yahoogroups.com




I am updating, my Mexican resouce disc, and the new version will be
ready in about two weeks.  Those who, would like a copy of the new
version, please let me know.

Juaregui's/Xauregui's

Hi Alicia--
 
Would you look up one name for me in your book?  I have an ancestor, Maria Manuela Duran, who was married in 1732 in Tlaltenango, so I guess she was born around 1715 or so.  Her marriage record notes that she was born in Nochistlan, but it did not note  her parents' names.  She married Domingo Perez.
 
Thanks!

Rosalinda

Diamond Bar, CA




-----Original Message-----
From: Alicia Carrillo
Sent: Dec 17, 2005 1:27 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ranchos] Juaregui's/Xauregui's

Irma, Ray and Jose Luis,
 
I'm afraid I was too hasty in saying that the Xauregui's were not to be found in Jose Luis' book. You know what they say, haste makes waste.
I found many chapters that reference Xauregui's. I did not find them initially because they fall under the descendants of families of different names. The book has 100 chapters but none of the chapters have titles with Xauregui's listed.
 
In order to find this surname you must go to the other index towards the back of the book

introduction-new member of los ranchos

Jonathan:
 
Definitely I will contact you when I know the date
of my trip to Utah. It will be nice to see you again. This time I want to take
some clases in the library, if possible.
I will also look at your power point
presentation.
 
Thank you so much for all your help
 
Susana Leniski
----- Original Message -----
From:
mexicanfhr
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 5:04
PM
Subject: [ranchos] Re: introduction-new
member of los ranchos

Susana,

Yes, I am still going, to the FHL. I get
done, there 2 to 3 times, a
month.  In fact, I am trying right now, to
get approved, so that I can
teach classes at the FHL. And also, that the
Library workers, can use
my disc, in helping the patrons.

When you
come, in May.  Just let me when you are coming, and I will
make
arraangements, to be there.

Also, if anyone is interested in learning,
about performing Batch
Number searchs,  I just uploaded Powerpoint
presentation on Batch
Numbe

introduction-new member of los ranchos

Ray:

 

Yes. That's me.  I haven't seen you in the Redmond
center lately. I'm there normally on Tuesdays and Thursdays.

 

See you soon

 

susana


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----- Original Message -----


style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From:
Raymond
Jauregui


Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 10:56
PM

Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re:
introduction-new member of los ranchos



Susana,

 

Are you the Susana that lived in the Pine Lake area and did research at
the  Redmond FHC?

 

Ray Jauregui

Sammamish, WA