Question about Researching in a Parish

Hello all,

Have any of you ever done research in the actual Parish in Mexico?

I am asking, because in about 3 weeks, I will be going to Mexico. And
if possible I will try find some information at the parish and
cemetary level.

So could anyone give me some pointers, on what to expect? Or the best
way to approach the subject?

Thanks,
Jonathan






Digest Number 749

What is the address of the southern California meeting?

Sincerely,

Charles Clark

----- Original Message -----
From:

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 10:52 AM
Subject: [ranchos] Digest Number 749


There are 3 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

     1. Unable to attend Southern California Meeting
          From: Alicia Carrillo 
     2. Monte grande
          From: "Susana Leniski" 
     3. Re: Monte grande
          From: "elviraz" 


________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

Message: 1
  Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 19:49:03 -0800 (PST)
  From: Alicia Carrillo 
Subject: Unable to attend Southern California Meeting

Oh boy, now I am really sorry I cannot attend the southern Cal meeting. We
had two deaths in the family in January, one to Baja Calif and the

64 out of 102


okay we're at 102 members and only 64 of you are signed up in the Who's
Who database. if you get a chance please go there and sign up your
information.


thanks,

joseph



Unable to attend Southern California Meeting

Alicia--
 
I'm sorry for the deaths in your family, and I'm also sorry that you will not be able to attend.  If this meeting is a success, I'll try to arrange another one.  We'll keep you in mind.
 
Rosalinda


-----Original Message-----
From: Alicia Carrillo
Sent: Feb 3, 2006 7:49 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Unable to attend Southern California Meeting

Oh boy, now I am really sorry I cannot attend the southern Cal meeting. We had two deaths in the family in January, one to Baja Calif and the other one this week to LA and next week a wedding in LA. Please eat some pan dulce on my behalf. Maybe at the next meeting i can make it. Best of everything to everyone.
 
Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo
San Jose, CA

zendean wrote:

This is to confirm my intent to come to the Feb. 25th Ranchos meeting @ 11:30. All I need now is where to come on that day.
 
Jose Luis Macias
"Zendean"


-----Original Message-----
From: lareina2@...
Sent: Feb 1, 2006 10:52 PM
To: ranchos

Monte grande


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Look up the article about the
Hacienda de Trancoso's "silos of Santa Monica".

 

 

 
face=Arial>The
Trancoso hacienda, built between 1660 and 1670, was once part of the Monte
Grande hacienda; its first owner was Captain José Monrreal. Back then he had a
large weaving factory called La Zacatecana.


 

 
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dir=ltr>www.mexicodesconocido.com.mx/.../norte/detalle.cfm?idsec=21&idsub=0&idpag=2185


 

 

Elvira

 

 

 

 

----- Original Message -----


style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From:
Susana
Leniski


Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 9:53
PM

Subject: [ranchos] Monte grande



Hello:

 

Can anyone tell me where was "Monte Grande"
in zacatecas?. I thought it was Monte Escobedo but I was wrong. I'm not
sure if it was part of zacatecas or aguascalientes

 

Thanks

Susana

 

 

Monte grande

Hello:

 

Can anyone tell me where was "Monte Grande" in
zacatecas?. I thought it was Monte Escobedo but I was wrong. I'm not sure
if it was part of zacatecas or aguascalientes

 

Thanks

Susana

 

 

Unable to attend Southern California Meeting

Oh boy, now I am really sorry I cannot attend the southern Cal meeting. We had two deaths in the family in January, one to Baja Calif and the other one this week to LA and next week a wedding in LA. Please eat some pan dulce on my behalf. Maybe at the next meeting i can make it. Best of everything to everyone.
 
Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo
San Jose, CA

zendean wrote:
This is to confirm my intent to come to the Feb. 25th Ranchos meeting @ 11:30. All I need now is where to come on that day.
 
Jose Luis Macias
"Zendean"


-----Original Message-----
From: lareina2@...
Sent: Feb 1, 2006 10:52 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] UPDATE
ON THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA RANCHOS MEETING

Hi group!     Here is an update on the upcoming Southern California Ranchos   Meeting.  A kind member of the Ranchos group, Olivia Jaurequi-Reyes,   has offered the use of her home as a meeting place.  The advantage of   this is that we can have a calm, comfortable atmosphere

Vacation Trip from California to East Coast

Sounds like a fantastic trip....Feliz Viaje....and happy trails to you both.
I plan on being at the Ranchos meeting in Sacramento in March...hope to see you then.
By the way, we are now living 3/10th of a mile, walking distance, from the Family History Center...but have only been there twice since our move...que lastima...
Saludos, Helyn

Richard and Kitty Cortez wrote:

Our vacation starts April 6th in Rocklin, CA,  then we spend about 5-
7 days in Ogden, UT where we will meet with Rosalinda and visit the
FHL in SLC again.  The 14th of April we take off  by way of Hiway 80
and head back east to Virginia, North Carolina, and Georgia.  Before
we arrive back East, we plan
on visiting friends in Chicago, Cousin
in Michigan, and a cyber cousin in Pittsburg.  Those cities are
followed by an Uncle in Richmond, VA, hopefully Joseph in NC, then
friends in GA where we will stay for about 3 days.   After Georgia,
we head up to Paducah, KY for the world's biggest Quilt Show. 
(Hiwa

Vacation Trip from California to East Coast

Our vacation starts April 6th in Rocklin, CA,  then we spend about 5-
7 days in Ogden, UT where we will meet with Rosalinda and visit the 
FHL in SLC again.  The 14th of April we take off  by way of Hiway 80 
and head back east to Virginia, North Carolina, and Georgia.  Before 
we arrive back East, we plan on visiting friends in Chicago, Cousin 
in Michigan, and a cyber cousin in Pittsburg.  Those cities are 
followed by an Uncle in Richmond, VA, hopefully Joseph in NC, then 
friends in GA where we will stay for about 3 days.   After Georgia, 
we head up to Paducah, KY for the world's biggest Quilt Show.  
(Hiway 20 and Hiway 40.)  From KY, we hope to make it to a Reyes 
Family Reunion in the Houston, TX area.  (Hiway 55 and Hiway 10) 
That should be the last week-end of April.  We plan on using  Hiway 
10 and Hiway 25 from Houston, thru Albuquerque, NM and then finally 
home sometime the first week of May.  We will be puting a few miles 
on our RV.  
If we are going to be in your

Confirm 1 seat for Ranchos meeting

This is to confirm my intent to come to the Feb. 25th Ranchos meeting @ 11:30. All I need now is where to come on that day.
 
Jose Luis Macias
"Zendean"


-----Original Message-----
From: lareina2@...
Sent: Feb 1, 2006 10:52 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] UPDATE ON THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA RANCHOS MEETING

Hi group! 

Here is an update on the upcoming Southern California Ranchos 
Meeting.  A kind member of the Ranchos group, Olivia Jaurequi-Reyes, 
has offered the use of her home as a meeting place.  The advantage of 
this is that we can have a calm, comfortable atmosphere to share our 
genealogies and ideas.  I'd like to thank Olivia for her generosity.  
The location was originally set for the Covina area, but Olivia's home 
is in Rowland Heights, not too far away from the 60 freeway, and just 
west of the 57 interchange.

We are planning a menu of carne asada, rice, beans, sodas, water, 
coffee, and pan dulce, and expect the cost to be in the range of $10 
per person

UPDATE ON THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA RANCHOS MEETING

Hi group! 

Here is an update on the upcoming Southern California Ranchos 
Meeting.  A kind member of the Ranchos group, Olivia Jaurequi-Reyes, 
has offered the use of her home as a meeting place.  The advantage of 
this is that we can have a calm, comfortable atmosphere to share our 
genealogies and ideas.  I'd like to thank Olivia for her generosity.

UPDATE ON THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA RANCHOS MEETING

Hi group! 

Here is an update on the upcoming Southern California Ranchos 
Meeting.  A kind member of the Ranchos group, Olivia Jaurequi-Reyes, 
has offered the use of her home as a meeting place.  The advantage of 
this is that we can have a calm, comfortable atmosphere to share our 
genealogies and ideas.  I'd like to thank Olivia for her generosity.  
The location was originally set for the Covina area, but Olivia's home 
is in Rowland Heights, not too far away from the 60 freeway, and just 
west of the 57 interchange.

We are planning a menu of carne asada, rice, beans, sodas, water, 
coffee, and pan dulce, and expect the cost to be in the range of $10 
per person.  I ask that you please let me know whether you definitely 
plan to attend, and inform me no later than FEBRUARY 15, so we can 
order the food and purchase any necessary items.  PLEASE TELL ME HOW 
MANY PEOPLE ARE COMING.  This is crucial for planning purposes, and I 
will also respond with Olivia's address and phone

Primer Encuentro de Especialistas Sobre la Región Norte de Jalisco

Victor,
 
That conference sounds interesting.  Maybe we can see some of the
presentations from the conference online sometime?
 
Emilie
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 10:11
AM
Subject: [ranchos] Primer Encuentro de
Especialistas Sobre la Región Norte de Jalisco

Dear Friends,

The message below was posted at the
"Genealogía de México" group and I
thought some of you might be interested
in knowing about an event such
as
this.

Saludos,
Victor

///////////////////////////////////////////


CENTRO
UNIVERSITARIO DEL NORTE
UNIVERSIDAD DE GUADALAJARA

Invita al 
PRIMER ENCUENTRO DE ESPECIALISTAS
SOBRE LA REGIÓN NORTE DE JALISCO
22,
23 Y 24 de febrero del 2006.
Colotlán,
Jalisco.

PRESENTACIÓN

El Norte de Jalisco es una región de gran
complejidad sociocultural debida
la convergencia de diversos procesos
históricos, sociales, económicos y
culturales.

La evolución
histórica de esta

[Fwd: Somos Primos: February 2006 Table of Contents lq]





-------- Original Message --------

Subject: Somos Primos: February 2006 Table of Contents lq
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:28:39 -0500 (EST)
From: MIMILOZANO@...
To: MIMILOZANO@...





Click
here: Somos Primos: Dedicated to Hispanic Heritage and Diversity Issues


http://www.somosprimos.com/sp2006/spfeb06/spfeb06.htm



Dear friends, family, and primos. .



I hope you enjoy this issue with the surprise opening story, a true
account of a friendship between two different species.



Don't miss, under U.S., the  move to incease federal employment of
Hispanics, also the all-day conference at the University of California,
Irvine, held January 23rd on the Latino-Jewish Connection, under
Sephardic.



Teachers, if you would like your class to appear in Somos Primos,
please send a photo and the name of the school and city.  Check Santa
Ana Century High School photo under Orange County.  Teacher George

Primer Encuentro de Especialistas Sobre la Región Norte de Jalisco

Dear Friends,

The message below was posted at the "Genealogía de México" group and I
thought some of you might be interested in knowing about an event such
as this.

Saludos,
Victor

///////////////////////////////////////////


CENTRO UNIVERSITARIO DEL NORTE
UNIVERSIDAD DE GUADALAJARA

 Invita al  PRIMER ENCUENTRO DE ESPECIALISTAS
SOBRE LA REGIÓN NORTE DE JALISCO
22, 23 Y 24 de febrero del 2006.
Colotlán, Jalisco.

PRESENTACIÓN

El Norte de Jalisco es una región de gran complejidad sociocultural debida
la convergencia de diversos procesos históricos, sociales, económicos y
culturales.

La evolución histórica de esta zona del Estado y su actual estructura se
deben a las particularidades de su territorio y ambiente. Estos aspectos
fueron determinantes para las formas de cultura establecidas aquí desde la
antigüedad y hasta nuestros días, por lo que desde épocas tempranas sus
pobladores tuvieron rasgos culturales característicos.

Los movimientos sociales en esta tierra también han

Immigration standards

Opinion....
Sadly, many so called Americans would like to send
such people back to Mexico, no matter what their
circumstance.  

After watching a number of our American politicians
(mostly Republicans) blame our illegal cousins for all
the problems in this country, I truly believe racism
and deep hate for our kind still exists in this
country.

Alberto Duarte Prieto

--- glo Sandoval-Fuentes 
wrote:

> Jessica,
> 
> boy are you so right. It is impossible since 9/11.
> 
> I work with juvenile boys. And its sad, I had one
> boy and many others but 
> this one in particular. Was brought here as a baby,
> his mom never got around 
> to getting his papers. So when he graduated our
> program he earned his 
> diploma and a scholarship to an art institution.
> 
> Only when we tried to get him legal we ran into road
> block after road block. 
> Basically there was no way of getting them unless he
> went back to mexico and 
> started from there. Yet the kid had NO ties to
>

Immigration standards

Jessica,

boy are you so right. It is impossible since 9/11.

I work with juvenile boys. And its sad, I had one boy and many others but
this one in particular. Was brought here as a baby, his mom never got around
to getting his papers. So when he graduated our program he earned his
diploma and a scholarship to an art institution.


Only when we tried to get him legal we ran into road block after road block.
Basically there was no way of getting them unless he went back to mexico and
started from there. Yet the kid had NO ties to mexico at all nor would he
know anyone there or his way around. It was a SAD situtation. We helped him
all we could but finally he just went to work with his dad working
illegally. It was so sad cuz the kids was a GREAT artist.




              ~~glo~~







From: Jessica Castaneda 
Reply-To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ranchos] Immigration standards
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 20:30:19 -0600

I work

File ready for upload - delaCruz Ramírez deLara Córdova Puentes

 

sorry I wasn't looking very close. . .I see the information: Timoteo
Puentes son of Rosalio
Puentes and Manuela Macias



thanks. . .no connecttion there but I'll look into it.



thanks,



joseph





Stuart Armstrong wrote:

Joseph,


I have a file ready for upload. It is a 65-page word document
(729KB) in modified Register format, containing 541 persons surnamed
delaCruz, Ramírez, de Lara, Córdova, Puentes, Rodríguez, Herrera,
Váladez, Mares, Quíroz, and others, with copious footnotes. Ninety
percent are from San José de Gracia and Rincón de Romos,
Aguascalientes, México.


What is the procedure? Shall I e-mail it to you?


Best regards,

 Stuart                            
class="rvts17" href="mailto:stuarta@...">mailto:stuarta@...


--

File ready for upload - delaCruz Ramírez deLara Córdova Puentes

WOW! Stuart what a great work you have created. Many years no doubt
worth of research.



Later we need to update the locations on the descriptive folder to
include the areas in Jalisco (Los Altos) toward the end. I have to look
a little further but who were Gabina Puentes' parents?



joseph







Stuart Armstrong wrote:

Joseph,


I have a file ready for upload. It is a 65-page word document
(729KB) in modified Register format, containing 541 persons surnamed
delaCruz, Ramírez, de Lara, Córdova, Puentes, Rodríguez, Herrera,
Váladez, Mares, Quíroz, and others, with copious footnotes. Ninety
percent are from San José de Gracia and Rincón de Romos,
Aguascalientes, México.


What is the procedure? Shall I e-mail it to you?


Best regards,

 Stuart                            
class="rvts17" href="mailto:stuarta@...">mailto:stuarta@...


--

Updated Olague-Tinajero Tree

look in the links area of Ranchos:



http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos/links/Genealogies_001052028367/



Emilie wrote:

Joseph,

I updated my Olague-Tinajero tree (Tepetongo, Jerez, Salitrillo, 
Marecito, Salitral, Estancia).  Where have you put it?  I can't find 
the link to it on Ranchos.  It is a link to the Ahnanfatel list of this 
tree on WorldConnect that you uploaded for me.  It now has six 
generations starting with my grandfather Francisco Olague who was born 
in Salitrillo in 1872.

I have added another generation on four lines and filled in some 
missing dates and places in others.  Surnames in this tree include 
Olague, Tinajero, Salasar, Flores, Felis, Suriano, Acevedo, Miranda, 
Campos, Munos, Lucio, Quijas, Mata, Ramires, Escovedo, Banegas, de 
Aro.  The Surianos and Quijas were mulatos.  The Olagues and Tinajeros 
were Espanol.  There are very few Yndio or Mestiso.

Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA.





 
Yahoo! Groups Links

*> To visit your group on the web

Updated Olague-Tinajero Tree

Joseph,

I updated my Olague-Tinajero tree (Tepetongo, Jerez, Salitrillo, 
Marecito, Salitral, Estancia).  Where have you put it?  I can't find 
the link to it on Ranchos.  It is a link to the Ahnanfatel list of this 
tree on WorldConnect that you uploaded for me.  It now has six 
generations starting with my grandfather Francisco Olague who was born 
in Salitrillo in 1872.

I have added another generation on four lines and filled in some 
missing dates and places in others.  Surnames in this tree include 
Olague, Tinajero, Salasar, Flores, Felis, Suriano, Acevedo, Miranda, 
Campos, Munos, Lucio, Quijas, Mata, Ramires, Escovedo, Banegas, de 
Aro.  The Surianos and Quijas were mulatos.  The Olagues and Tinajeros 
were Espanol.  There are very few Yndio or Mestiso.

Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA.




File ready for upload - delaCruz Ramírez deLara Córdova Puentes

yes email it to me and I'll upload it in the next few days.



Puentes, huh? sounds interesting.



thanks



joseph



ps: if you want it up sooner you can go to ranchos2 and carefully
follow the format making yourself a folder, but it might be easier to
send it to me and I'll do it. . .you decide.







Stuart Armstrong wrote:

Joseph,


I have a file ready for upload. It is a 65-page word document
(729KB) in modified Register format, containing 541 persons surnamed
delaCruz, Ramírez, de Lara, Córdova, Puentes, Rodríguez, Herrera,
Váladez, Mares, Quíroz, and others, with copious footnotes. Ninety
percent are from San José de Gracia and Rincón de Romos,
Aguascalientes, México.


What is the procedure? Shall I e-mail it to you?


Best regards,

 Stuart                            
class="rvts17" href="mailto:stuarta@...">mailto:stuarta@...


--

File ready for upload - delaCruz Ramírez deLara Córdova Puentes

Joseph,


I have a file ready for upload. It is a 65-page word document (729KB) in modified Register format, containing 541 persons surnamed delaCruz, Ramírez, de Lara, Córdova, Puentes, Rodríguez, Herrera, Váladez, Mares, Quíroz, and others, with copious footnotes. Ninety percent are from San José de Gracia and Rincón de Romos, Aguascalientes, México.


What is the procedure? Shall I e-mail it to you?


Best regards,

 Stuart                            mailto:stuarta@...

digital photoghaphy

Hi prima how are you?



yes you can get great quality with a digital. i use a 3 (but these days
a 4 or even 5 might be better for the same price around $300) megapixel
camera with a very small portable tripod. I set it with no flash and
the setting of the camera set for close up (called a macro setting--get
a camera with a good close macro setting in the order of just a couple
of inches). I even have a set up where in the reader I bought a no
glare piece of art board cut to the size of the reading area and I put
a regular binder under it so the triangle shape of the binder elevates
the art board toward me and the angle is not so sharp on taking the
picture.



I have some pictures of this tilt set up. . .the files are large and if
you are interested email me and I'll email them to you.



remind me in a few days and I'll optimize the pictures and put them in
an email to you.



remind me okay?



joseph





Susana Leniski wrote:

Joseph:
 
You mentioned in one of your