thanks Rich and Kitty but I have no documents yet to veryify the oral
history that says my grandmother is from Huejucar. It will be quite a
while before I even received the now ordered film. thanks for this
information. I think once I make the connection (i hope i hope i hope)
you and Arturo will have finished all the other work.

thanks much,

joseph


Richard and Kitty Cortez wrote:

Joseph and Arturo

I have the marriage document for Jose Manuel Catarino LOPEZ and Ana
Maria BILLEGAS Vasques m. 10 Jul 1825 doc Huejucar, Jal. 1,158,206
vol 3 pg 44
Jose Manuel Catarino LOPEZ parents were Visencio LOPEZ b. 20 APR
1820 Huejucar and Maria los REYES (info from Arturo's files)

I also have Ana Maria BILLEGAS Vasques bapt. doc 7 Aug 1805 FHL
C602983 1805 - 1823 0445090 Her parents are Antonio BILLEGAS d. 1
Jun 1850 doc. and Juana Maria VASQUES d. 6 Mar 1849 doc. both died
in Huejucar.
There were 9 siblings for Ana Maria BILLEGAS. We have the bapt.
docs for 6 of them.

Joseph and Arturo
I have the marriage document for Jose Manuel Catarino LOPEZ and Ana 
Maria BILLEGAS Vasques  m. 10 Jul 1825 doc Huejucar, Jal.  1,158,206 
vol 3 pg 44
Jose Manuel Catarino LOPEZ parents were Visencio LOPEZ b. 20 APR 
1820 Huejucar and Maria los REYES (info from Arturo's files)

I also have Ana Maria BILLEGAS Vasques bapt. doc 7 Aug 1805 FHL  
C602983  1805 - 1823  0445090  Her parents are Antonio BILLEGAS d. 1 
Jun 1850 doc. and Juana Maria VASQUES d. 6 Mar 1849 doc.  both died 
in Huejucar.
There were 9 siblings for Ana Maria BILLEGAS.  We have the bapt. 
docs for 6 of them.

Maria Francisca VILLEGAS 13 Mar 1796 doc  m. Simon MURO
Maria de Jesus BILLEGAS  5 Feb 1798 doc
Maria Lucia BILLEGAS 12 Jun 1800 doc   m. Clemente MONTOYA
Jose Simon BILLEGAS Vasques  16 Nov 1802
Ana Maria BILLEGAS Vasques 7 Aug  1805 m. Jose Manuel Catarino LOPEZ
Maria Andrea BILLEGAS Vasques  24 Nov 1807 doc
Other childrern but no docs
Rita Billega   m. Ramon LUERA
Macedonio Villegas  m

Joseph and Arturo
I have the marriage document for Jose Manuel Catarino LOPEZ and Ana 
Maria BILLEGAS Vasques  m. 10 Jul 1825 doc Huejucar, Jal.  1,158,206 
vol 3 pg 44
Jose Manuel Catarino LOPEZ parents were Visencio LOPEZ b. 20 APR 
1820 Huejucar and Maria los REYES (info from Arturo's files)

I also have Ana Maria BILLEGAS Vasques bapt. doc 7 Aug 1805 FHL  
C602983  1805 - 1823  0445090  Her parents are Antonio BILLEGAS d. 1 
Jun 1850 doc. and Juana Maria VASQUES d. 6 Mar 1849 doc.  both died 
in Huejucar.
There were 9 siblings for Ana Maria BILLEGAS.  We have the bapt. 
docs for 6 of them.

Maria Francisca VILLEGAS 13 Mar 1796 doc  m. Simon MURO
Maria de Jesus BILLEGAS  5 Feb 1798 doc
Maria Lucia BILLEGAS 12 Jun 1800 doc   m. Clemente MONTOYA
Jose Simon BILLEGAS Vasques  16 Nov 1802
Ana Maria BILLEGAS Vasques 7 Aug  1805 m. Jose Manuel Catarino LOPEZ
Maria Andrea BILLEGAS Vasques  24 Nov 1807 doc
Other childrern but no docs
Rita Billega   m. Ramon LUERA
Macedonio Villegas  m

Hello:



Ref: Tlatenango, Zac:



What names, may I ask?



Mickey

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I was deleting and re uploading files to http://NuestrosRanchos.net

in doing that I slightly changed the names of the files and that might
have been why Emilie was having trouble.

sorry for the confusion

try http://NuestrosRanchos.net again and see if it works better now.

joseph

    TO: h1ita@...

        From What I know, Martin Del Campo goes short as Martin, that 
name as others like Barba where the settlers in Tepatitlan a lot, but 
also expanded to San Juan De Los Lagos, you can find them also in 
Jalostotitlan. Look also in Jesus Maria, Arandas, Zapotlanejo ...

               Leticia Leon Morales
          

I have uploaded a map given to me by a member of the Ranchos group (thanks Gloria). I believe the original is at UC Berkeley. It won't be available for long so please visit    http://nuestrosranchos.libsyn.com/  and if you are intereste upload ASAP.

also have a listen at: http://NuestrosRanchos.net

joseph
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos/

Subject: Re: Older maps of Jalisco ???

From: h1ita@...

Date: 9 Sep 2005 21:40:11 -0600

To: MEX-JALISCO-L@...

I would love to have a

Joseph,

Best of luck!  Thanks for letting us know.  

Victor 

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:
> 
> I have just signed up to make an attempt at Real Estate with an 
> organization called Mark Thomas Realty with Weichert Realty. All that 
> being said I will have my hands full doing the bare minimum of 
> subscribing and unsubscribing people along with uploading and either 
> modifying or doing whatever else might come up.
> 
> All that being said if you notice that I am becoming more and more 
> silent. . .well that is why. If you miss my voice have a listen to
it at 
> http://NuestrosRanchos.net
> 
> joseph

I have just signed up to make an attempt at Real Estate with an
organization called Mark Thomas Realty with Weichert Realty. All that
being said I will have my hands full doing the bare minimum of
subscribing and unsubscribing people along with uploading and either
modifying or doing whatever else might come up.

All that being said if you notice that I am becoming more and more
silent. . .well that is why. If you miss my voice have a listen to it at
http://NuestrosRanchos.net

joseph

Sounds good and also promising.

Albert Duarte Prieto.
Santa Maria, California

--- readysetgo95814  wrote:

> This is great.  Thanks for sharing Victor.
> 
> Maria
> 
> --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "v.h.villarreal"
>  
> wrote:
> > For your information,
> > 
> > > Microfilm data in LDS canyon vaults to go online
> > > 
> > > By Carrie A. Moore
> > > Deseret Morning News 
> > >       Ever wonder what's inside those secured
> > > vaults, owned by the LDS Church, positioned high
> > > inside the granite walls of Little Cottonwood
> > > Canyon?
> > >       The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day
> > > Saints is working toward allowing anyone with
> > > Internet access to learn more than they've ever
> > > known before about the information contained on
> 2
> > > million-plus rolls of microfilm housed there.
> > > Currently, the church is compiling searchable
> > > indexes to that information and will eventually
> make
> > > it available for free

Good morning
I'm hoping you can help me understand the history of the traditions 
of baptisms in Jalisco during the 1700's.
During that period they are still listing nationalities for people 
and I've noticed that many Indios and Mulato's are baptized by 
Espanoles who frequently have Don and Dona in front of their names.. 
A majority of the Indios and Mulato's do not live in the major towns 
but seem to be in Barrios or Haciendas, Estancias or Ranchos.  Many 
of the Espanoles have double surnames. I'm under the impression that 
many Indios and Mulato's took the surname of the Espanol that owned 
the land the workers lived on. I don't see how the Espanoles would 
have known all these workers who's babies they baptized.. did they 
do mass baptisms or was it the 'responsibility' of the patron or 
owners to be padrinos and madrinas?  Or was it considered an honor 
for the babies to have Espanol padrinos?  My area's of research for 
these records are Atoyac, Zapotlan El Grande, Zapotiltic

This is great.  Thanks for sharing Victor.

Maria

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "v.h.villarreal"  
wrote:
> For your information,
> 
> > Microfilm data in LDS canyon vaults to go online
> > 
> > By Carrie A. Moore
> > Deseret Morning News 
> >       Ever wonder what's inside those secured
> > vaults, owned by the LDS Church, positioned high
> > inside the granite walls of Little Cottonwood
> > Canyon?
> >       The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day
> > Saints is working toward allowing anyone with
> > Internet access to learn more than they've ever
> > known before about the information contained on 2
> > million-plus rolls of microfilm housed there.
> > Currently, the church is compiling searchable
> > indexes to that information and will eventually make
> > it available for free through an automated database
> > on the Internet.
> >       The church excavated the vaults containing
> > those records on property it purchased in the 1960s,
> > providing a safe

For your information,

> Microfilm data in LDS canyon vaults to go online
> 
> By Carrie A. Moore
> Deseret Morning News 
>       Ever wonder what's inside those secured
> vaults, owned by the LDS Church, positioned high
> inside the granite walls of Little Cottonwood
> Canyon?
>       The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day
> Saints is working toward allowing anyone with
> Internet access to learn more than they've ever
> known before about the information contained on 2
> million-plus rolls of microfilm housed there.
> Currently, the church is compiling searchable
> indexes to that information and will eventually make
> it available for free through an automated database
> on the Internet.
>       The church excavated the vaults containing
> those records on property it purchased in the 1960s,
> providing a safe repository during the height of the
> Cold War for birth, marriage, death and census
> information it considers essential for the salvation
> of mankind after death. Now

 Amen....

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Alicia Carrillo  
wrote:
> I know this forum is only for geneaology but I couldn't help but 
believe that we are all in this together and that our people need 
all the help including our prayers.
>  
>  
>  
> Prayer chain for our New Orleans and the gulf
> states...
> Prayer Request: When you receive this, please stop for
> a moment and say a prayer for New Orleans.
> 
> 
> "Lord, hold the people of New Orleans and the gulf
> states in your loving hands. Protect them in their
> time of need and bring an end to their suffering.
> Bless them and their families. I ask this in the name
> of Jesus, our Lord and Savior. Amen."
> 
> 
> There is nothing attached.... ... Just send this.
> Do not let it stop with you, please. 
> 
> 
> Alicia A Carrillo