Communication I had with Colotlan Yahoo Group
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boy am I hoping she will but she hasn't written back yet. I just sent
I will try. . .if i can't get those that are fluent to help me
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boy am I hoping she will but she hasn't written back yet. I just sent
I will try. . .if i can't get those that are fluent to help me
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So what did she say, Joseph? Will she send you tapes or snippets of
their programming for your podcasts? That would be great if you can connect. I can understand quite a bit of Spanish, but can't think on my feet fast enough to speak it. At least you give it a go, you are not shy. Nothing ventured nothing gained. I am sure they appreciate your efforts to speak the language, and only the really mean people there will criticize your not having a full grasp of el Castellan. That is why I said that you deserve a lot of credit for what you do. You keep coming up with so many ways to get information for us. I send you un abrazo fuerte. We all help others as you told me to continue doing, but we don't all have your talents in finding resources. Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA.
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Oh, thanks, Victor,
My ancestors must have been living in the Salitrillo that was in the
municipality of Tepetongo, partido de Jerez, since my father was born in Jerez. What is a partido? I thought Jerez was a municipality, no? Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA ----
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Joseph, How about asking if there are official Bracero Program statistics from the early 1900s? I'm sure there must be something because every worker was issued an ID card. http://www.farmworkers.org/bracero/braceric.GIF Also, I recommend anyone interested in the subject from a general perspective to take a look at the following publication at the University of Texas (in Spanish): http://www.utexas.edu/lbj/uscir/binpapers/v2b-6bustamante.pdf Here's a quote: Areas de origen en México Tres entidades han sido clasificadas consistentemente en los primeros lugares como proveedoras de migrantes: Jalisco, Michoacán y Guanajuato. A ellas se agregaron Chihuahua, Durango y Zacatecas. Gamio señalaba en 1930 que el 54.3% de los migrantes mexicanos provenía de esos tres estados del centro-occidente de México (Michoacán, Guanajuato y Jalisco), siguiéndolos en importancia Nuevo León, Durango y el D.F. (Gamio, 1930) (ver Cuadro 1). It also includes the destination places for most of
okay some have problems with finding out the "Where" in Mexico they came
from. I want to eventually get interviews with people in INS and Social
Security and other gov't offices to see what information is freely open
to the public that might give clues on where in Mexico people came from.
Can you all email me directly with your thoughts on what questions can
be asked of people high up in these organizations. I'd like to go
prepared and can only think of these questions:
1) With regards to the freedom of information act what info is available
to the general public in (their organization).
2) On the records that are available what kind of information is usually
collected?
3) What time periods did these records cover?
4) What preliminary work can the information seeker perform to
facilitate the look up of records?
5) Are there specific forms that need to be used for information request?
6) Are there costs involved with requesting records? And if so what are
they?
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Hello Emilie, Have you read the description of Salitrillo in the "Diccionario Geográfico, Histórico y Biográfico de los Estados Unidos Mexicanos." http://biblio2.colmex.mx/bibdig/dicc_cubas/base3.htm Salitrillo. 5 ranchos del Estado de Zacatecas: Uno del partido de Fresnillo, municipalidad de Valparaíso. - Dos del partido de Jerez, municipalidad de Tepetongo. - Otro del partido de Nochixtlán, municipalidad de Toyahua. - Otro del partido de Villanueva, municipalidad de Jalpa. The coordinates that you found are completely in a different area of Zacatecas, right in the border of Coahuila. Victor. --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Emilie Garcia"wrote: > > Hello, all, > > I have recently discovered more generations on my father's side. They include the surnames Tinajero, Olague, Valdez, Feliz, Flores, Suriano, Salasar, Munos, Lucio, Vasquez, Garcia, Quijas, Banegas, Escobedo and possibly Mata. Most of these were baptized or married in Tepetongo, Zacatecas
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time will tell.
thanks but don't go doing that, just return any benefit you have gained |
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Yes, Joseph,
We might be related, and/or your ancestors were close neighbors and friends
of my ancestors. I see your surnames among the marriages of the collateral lines (marriages of my ancestors' children that I do not descend from) in my tree, or they were padrinos for each others' children. The place name was sometimes abbreviated to el Salto., I think (in the baptismal records I reviewed recently at the local FHC). Oh, by the way, I finally found how to download your podcasts. I read
an article in the newspaper about podcasts, and it suggested downloading some programs called "receivers". I found a small one called ppr.exe at primetimepodcast.com. After I installed the receiver, I selected two of your podcasts and the computer brought up the Download Manager, which I did not know about, and I could actually see the podcast downloading after selecting it from your NuestrosRanchos.net and that other new site you have. It takes approximately 45 minutes to |
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Betcha I'm related to you, BUT it may take years to find out.as none of
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Hello, all,
I have recently discovered more generations on my father's side. They
include the surnames Tinajero, Olague, Valdez, Feliz, Flores, Suriano, Salasar, Munos, Lucio, Vasquez, Garcia, Quijas, Banegas, Escobedo and possibly Mata. Most of these were baptized or married in Tepetongo, Zacatecas, but they lived in a community called El Salitrillo in the early 1700's to the late 1800's. Does anyone else have any connection to these families from this location? Both the men and the women used various surnames, but my research has proved that they are one and the same. For example, my great-grandmother Rafaela used the surnames Tinajero, Flores, Felix, or Suriano. Her father Hilario (Ylario) used the surnames Tinajero or Felix. Her mother Teodocia Flores also would sometimes use the surnames Felix or Suriano. This made finding their children a challenge, to put it mildly. I finally found my grandfather as Francisco Olague Felix, when I expected to find him as |
My apologies, it won't happen again.. Linda in Washington --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Deena Ortiz"wrote: > > Just a reminder that when you send a message to the list that has nothing to > do with the purpose of the list, it's nice to precede the subject line with > OT (off topic). > > Secondly, I usually check everything I receive before I forward it to see > whether is may be a hoax. Most of them usually are. The information about > cell phone telemarketers is somewhat mixed: > http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp > > ~Deena Ortiz~ >
just wanting to keep people in the loop for possible cooperation with
the Colotlan Yahoo Group. Boy does my Spanish leave a lot to be desired:
Norma Angelica Mendoza Sandoval wrote:
Hola a Todos! Hola Joseph!
Respecto a tu pregunta…
La Radio Universidad de Colotlán retransmite (vía Internet) desde hace dos años la programación de Radio Universidad de Guadalajara, es decir no contaba con un equipo de trabajo que pudiera producir y transmitir programas locales. Actualmente estamos (estudiantes del Cunorte y yo) produciendo el primer programa local… es un programa cultural que arrancó ayer, 6 de octubre, con un programa dedicado a la Peregrinación de la Virgen del Rosario a Santiago. Todavía no contamos con un servidor que nos permita retransmitir desde colotlán vía Internet (para que nos puedas escuchar en Carolina) sin embargo es una prioridades en esta etapa de arranque. Con decirte que la estación esta incomunicada y todavía no cuenta con teléfono pero estas cosas las iremos
Just a reminder that when you send a message to the list that has nothing to
do with the purpose of the list, it's nice to precede the subject line with
OT (off topic).
Secondly, I usually check everything I receive before I forward it to see
whether is may be a hoax. Most of them usually are. The information about
cell phone telemarketers is somewhat mixed:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp
~Deena Ortiz~
Llego a un punto donde estaré entrevistando a personas en español. Mi
español definitivamente es sobrevivencia español y NO es la calidad de
Entrevista español. ¿Hay cualquiera en el grupo que serían interesados a
Entrevistar a Autores en un tema del interés al Entrevistador? Horita no
tengo alguien a entrevistar pero el dia viene pronto.
joseph
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hi Jonathan and Francisco, |
Joseph, Me puedes mandar los detailes, de lo que quieres. Jonathan --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puenteswrote: > > > Llego a un punto donde estaré entrevistando a personas en español. Mi > español definitivamente es sobrevivencia español y NO es la calidad de > Entrevista español. ¿Hay cualquiera en el grupo que serían interesados a > Entrevistar a Autores en un tema del interés al Entrevistador? Horita no > tengo alguien a entrevistar pero el dia viene pronto. > > joseph
Llego a un punto donde estaré entrevistando a personas en español. Mi
español definitivamente es sobrevivencia español y NO es la calidad de
Entrevista español. ¿Hay cualquiera en el grupo que serían interesados a
Entrevistar a Autores en un tema del interés al Entrevistador? Horita no
tengo alguien a entrevistar pero el dia viene pronto.
joseph
Joseph:
Podrias mandarme mas informacion sobre estas entrevistas?
O es que quieres entrevistar a uno de los miembros de ranchos? Gracias, Francisco
Llego a un punto donde estaré entrevistando a personas en español. Mi
español definitivamente es sobrevivencia español y NO es la calidad de
Entrevista español. ¿Hay cualquiera en el grupo que serían interesados a
Entrevistar a Autores en un tema del interés al Entrevistador? Horita no
tengo alguien a entrevistar pero el dia viene pronto.
joseph
Here are some podcast sites, that are about genealogy: Dear Myrtle Family History Hour (posted every Tuesday): http://dearmyrtle.com/ The Genealogy Guys Podcast (posted every Sunday): http://www.genealogyguys.com/ Nuestra Familia Unida: http://nuestrafamiliaunida.com/ For those of you, that are new to podcasting. A podcast is a audio program, that is put on the internet, for people to download and listen to, at their own leisure. Also, for those of you, who are using a dialup internet connection. Remember when you click on the podcst button, to listen to the podcast. Remember, that podcast has to download. Usually, the podcast are aleast 10 megabytes in size. So it will take time to download. I have listened to all the podcasts, that are on each of the above site, and I have really enjoyed all of them, and I have learned something new, from each podcast. Jonathan
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here is the new location and website for the Nuestra Familia Unida
podcast project:
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com [it's a work in progress] consider joining this group to be notified of new content: NuestraFamiliaUnida-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
As an aside, I would like to say that the NARA Symposium was great, particularly the sessions with George Ryskamp. I also enjoyed meeting you Joseph and Natalie. There was not much of a turnout but I hope they continue to do these symposia... Next year we have to help them publicize the event a bit more. --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puenteswrote: > > I've got a new podcast online from the Hispanic Family History Symposium > this past weekend at NARA in DC. It is not actually part of the > Symposium but a personal interview I conducted immediately after the > Symposium. > > the location is: http://NuestrosRanchos.libsyn.com > > I hope to have 5 more presentations from that Symposium online in the > next week or two. > > joseph
I've got a new podcast online from the Hispanic Family History Symposium
this past weekend at NARA in DC. It is not actually part of the
Symposium but a personal interview I conducted immediately after the
Symposium.
the location is: http://NuestrosRanchos.libsyn.com
I hope to have 5 more presentations from that Symposium online in the
next week or two.
joseph