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great thanks and whose's films are those that don't have names in the
permanent loan column?

does anyone know?

joseph

ps: they look like mine but I didn't enter them so they aren't



Arturo Ramos wrote:

I have uploaded David Serna's and Rosalinda Ruiz's films to the
database. Most of them do not have batch numbers but they are listed
so you know who has them at their local FHL. I will try to add batch
numbers to them and try to upload Joseph's and some others as I have
time.

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Arturo, When I was in El Limon Jalisco in 2003 we went to the parish 
office and talked with the girl in the office who told us we could 
not look at the actual books even though they were on the shelf 
behind her.  The priest walked in and asked what family we were 
looking for? My cousin's husband was trying to find his Santana 
ancestors who turned out to be part of the priests family.  He asked 
what year and took out a book wrapped in plastic because it was 
frail.  We opened it and the pages started turning to dust and 
blowing away.  Needless to say we closed it immediately and thanked 
him for allowing us to try.  It's very dry there and no special 
precautions were taken to preserve the books.
We went to Tamazula de Gordiano Jalisco next and they were so busy 
that they gave very poor service telling us they tried but couldn't 
find the records.  They had no copy machine so would have to do a 
form letter for whatever information was found, came home and found 
the records at

For how long, the films stay at the FHC, depends on the Center. 
Especially, on how much room, they have.  Some centers, once the films
 go on indefinite loan, they stay forever.  Others stay until, the
center decides to send, them back.  That is why it is called "Indinite 
Loan".  In my center, thay stay forever,  I have not had a indefinite
loan film, go back to Salt Lake.

Also, in some centers, they have film copiers and scanners, where you
can make your own copies, of the documents, that you want.

If you have more questions, let them fly.  I am sure that between all
of us here in the Ranchos group & the Mexicanfhr group, we can find a
answer, for you.

Thanks,
Jonathan


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Peggy Delgado"  wrote:
>
> Good Afternoon fellow researchers....
> 
> I have a really silly question.  Do you members have the actual
microfilms
> that you refer to in this message?
> How is it that you can get them for such a long period of time. 
When I go
> to

-----Original Message-----
From: ranchos@...om
[mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
v.h.villarreal
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 7:08
PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Films on
permanent loan.

Peggy,

I understand your
feelings.  The nearest FHC for me usually opens only
on Saturdays and
just for three hours.  It has 2 projectors but only
one is in working
order.  On my last visit I was shown a letter where
they were asking
for the films I haven't even reviewed to be sent
back.  At this rate
it'll take at least a couple of lives to find all
my ancestors. 
jah!  Maybe I'll find myself in the next life!

Victor

---
In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Peggy Delgado"
wrote:
>
> Good Afternoon fellow researchers....
>
>
I have a really silly question.  Do you members have the
actual
microfilms
> that you refer to in this message?
> How is
it that you can get them for such a long period of time.
Whe

Mary,

If you could tell me, the names and what information, that you have on
the grandfathers, that you are searching for.  I'll see if I can find
anything.

Also, to all of the Ranchos members,  if you have elusive ancestor,
send me the information.  And I will see, if I can find anything.

Thanks,
Jonathan


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Mary Allen  wrote:
>
> Hello, Jonathan:  I am one of the newer members, not only in Ranchos
but in the whole genealogy experience itself. I have been working
steadily for about nine years and made a lot of "progress" but was
striking out in all directions and actually don't even know if I was
running into ancestors or not.  Then I ran into Ranchos and it put the
whole thing into focus.  Now I am rather excited because by sending
out copies of an unidentified photo, I actually have my first "hit".
It is a living person, 93 years old, who is the granddaughter of the
very man I was looking up.  I may really need some help later

I have uploaded David Serna's and Rosalinda Ruiz's films to the 
database.  Most of them do not have batch numbers but they are listed 
so you know who has them at their local FHL.  I will try to add batch 
numbers to them and try to upload Joseph's and some others as I have 
time.

I will be spending about three weeks this December and January in 
Jalisco and Zacatecas and am hoping to make it to the parrishes in 
Colotlan and Tlaltenango, perhaps Atolinga as well as the archives in 
Guadalajara...

Question... has anyone ever asked to see the actual books held at the 
parrishes?  I am thinking of asking to photograph some of them, but 
don't know how well that would go over.

Any tips would be appreciated.  I am also going to try to do an 
interview with Esteban Valdes Salazar who has published some very good 
genealogy and history books on Totatiche.  He is the local "cronista" 
and has obviously spent lots of time pouring over old archival 
documents, including the transcription of the 1591 census of Tlaxcaltec 
migrants to Colotlan and the entire 1770 Totatiche census (over 3000 
names).  So if there are any questions anyone would like to ask, please 
let me know.

Peggy,

I understand your feelings.  The nearest FHC for me usually opens only
on Saturdays and just for three hours.  It has 2 projectors but only
one is in working order.  On my last visit I was shown a letter where
they were asking for the films I haven't even reviewed to be sent
back.  At this rate it'll take at least a couple of lives to find all
my ancestors.  jah!  Maybe I'll find myself in the next life!

Victor

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Peggy Delgado"  wrote:
>
> Good Afternoon fellow researchers....
> 
> I have a really silly question.  Do you members have the actual
microfilms
> that you refer to in this message?
> How is it that you can get them for such a long period of time. 
When I go
> to the FHC, I only get them for a couple of weeks.  They come in
from SLC, I
> look through them at the center using their equipment, request copies of
> certain documents, then they get sent back.  What am I doing wrong?
 Do you
> have these microfilms in your

                   hope I helped,     

                              Leticia

Does anyone know where I might find a history of la Parroquia de
Rincón de Romos and also of the Parroquia San José de Gracia?

I understand that for awhile there was an auxiliary San José parish
separated out of the main San José parish. It also seems that the
parochial jurisdictions changed over the years. I would like to be
able to decipher what belonged to what, and when, and how they
correlated with the civil jurisdictions.



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Oh, my gosh, Connie,

I was in El Paso for 2 days as of the 11th and just left this morning! I went to visit my sisters, one of whom is recuperating in a hospital! Wow! How interesting it would have been to talk on the phone a wee bit. Marge:)

On Oct 11, 2005, at 12:17 AM, Connie Dominguez wrote:

Alicia,

 

I worked for about a year at the beginning, with very few breakthroughs, but just enough tidbits to keep my appetite going. My early research taught me many things the hard way – lots of experience from mistakes.   As I moved into my second year of research, I realized that this was definitely not going to be a piece of cake.  While there were a few dates & such that I came across, I found much less than I had anticipated.   

 

But I resolved two things:  First, to learn about everything I could while I was on this ride…even if it wasn’t

-----Original Message-----
From: ranchos@...om
[mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Arturo
Ramos
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 4:18 PM
To:
ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Re: Jonathan's Film
File-was-file uploaded to ranchos

Peggy:

We
don't literally "have" the films in our possession... rather, they
are at
our local family history center on "indefinite" loan.  They
put films
into such a status when someone has renewed the same film
three times...
basically meaning it is a critical or heavy use film
in that family
history

Peggy:

We don't literally "have" the films in our possession... rather, they 
are at our local family history center on "indefinite" loan.  They 
put films into such a status when someone has renewed the same film 
three times... basically meaning it is a critical or heavy use film 
in that family history center.  I personally don't have any on such 
status but people who have been at this a lot do... After all it is 
only $12 to get a film to stay at your center... it is worth it.

Podcasts are audio clips that can be downloaded to your computer to 
be listened to and if you like they can be synchronized to an iPod to 
listen to on your way to work, etc.  If you don't have an iPod you 
can still listen to them on your computer.

Check out this link for more info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podcast


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Peggy Delgado"  wrote:
>
> Good Afternoon fellow researchers....
> 
> I have a really silly question.  Do you members have the actual

You guys are too quick for me!  Yes, Joseph that is the point of the 
database--to have a single source of all the info and not have to 
have it repeated in several different files. Yes, a lookup means 
getting a scanned image of a document for another member provided 
they give you the film number, date and full names.  I think that we 
multiply the number of films we all have access to at one time by 
helping one another out to further our research.  I don't get to my 
FHC often either, but if I can help anyone I would be happy to do so.

As Arturo points out, the database has the advantage of allowing you 
to import and export into it.  

You've been reminding us about how we're running out of space in the 
files area, so I thought the database would help with that problem. 
Or does the data we put into the databases add to the amount of space 
alotted for files?  Even if it does, I would imagine that doing away 
with redundancy would help a little.

Thanks Arturo for your great

For those of you, who want copies of the material.  Please send me
your mailing address. To me private email: jonathan@...

Jonathan

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Arturo Ramos"  wrote:
>
> For those of you who are too far west to have made it to the Hispanic 
> Genealogy Symposium at the National Archives, the Family History Center 
> and BYU are hosting a similar conference this weekend:
> 
> http://familyhistory.byu.edu/hg_conf.asp
>

Here is a website, that has several Family trees, from Mexico and Spain:
http://www.bisabuelos.com/

Jonathan

For those, who want copies, of the material.  Please send me, your
mailing address to my private email:  jonathan@...

Jonathan

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Arturo Ramos"  wrote:
>
> For those of you who are too far west to have made it to the Hispanic 
> Genealogy Symposium at the National Archives, the Family History Center 
> and BYU are hosting a similar conference this weekend:
> 
> http://familyhistory.byu.edu/hg_conf.asp
>