Subject: Necesito Ayuda:Test PleaseHelp/Alberto; Angel; Helen; Lorenzo; Maria; Steven(2)

Ojala que ya no lo tenemos. No e oido de los otros. voy a tener que
pidir por ayuda otra vez.



gracias



joseph



Lorenzo Cuesta wrote:

Hola Joseph,
 
Seguí tus instrucciones al pie de la letra.  No tuve dificultad
de acceso ni de lectura con los dos documentos que indicaste. 
¿Entonces, ya no tenemos el problem para almacenar documentos?
 
Atentamente,
Lorenzo Cuesta
Sacramento, CA


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Message: 4

Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 16:28:32 -0500

From: Joseph Puentes

Subject: Necesito Ayuda:Test PleaseHelp/Alberto; Angel; Helen; Lorenzo;
Maria; Steven





albertodua, angelrcervantes, mistyriver123, quijote1945,

readysetgo95814, sgapodaca



Will the above members please try to access my personal briefcase to
see

if that will be a good place to store additional Files in the future.



You need to go to "Links" then

Digest Number 495

Hola Joseph,

 

Seguí tus instrucciones al pie de la letra.  No tuve dificultad de acceso ni de lectura con los dos documentos que indicaste.  ¿Entonces, ya no tenemos el problem para almacenar documentos?

 

Atentamente,

Lorenzo Cuesta

Sacramento, CA


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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 16:28:32 -0500
From: Joseph Puentes
Subject: Necesito Ayuda:Test PleaseHelp/Alberto; Angel; Helen; Lorenzo; Maria; Steven


albertodua, angelrcervantes, mistyriver123, quijote1945,
readysetgo95814, sgapodaca

Will the above members please try to access my personal briefcase to see
if that will be a good place to store additional Files in the future.

You need to go to "Links" then to "Genealogies" then to Click on
"AntonioPuenteAnnaPlacencia
"
and then see
if you can access both either one of the files in my
briefcase. If you all can then I might have found a solution to our
storage file problem. . .at least it will give us an additional 30 mb
which is more than we have now.

thanks,


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Sebastian de Vlloa

Deena,
 
I was in Nochistlan last September and found that they have less information than the IGI does. I think that it might be possible to get more information in Guadalajara than in Nochistlan. In Nochistlan they only have archived the more recent information as in the last 120 years or around that time frame. They were reluctant to pull anything that was not on their computerized data base or they didn't have it there. My sister in-laws sister was, until her death in 2003 in charge of Tlachichila's Parish Records for about 40 years. Tlachichila is in the Municipio de Nochistlan and she said that most of the older records were in storage in Guadalajara. In order to gain access to those records you must be either a historian, professor, someone with influence in the Catholic church or you must present a good case to them as to why you would like to see these records. Maybe by our membership in this genealogical group collectively we could petition these records. Something to

Sebastian de Vlloa

There are no
parents identified in this record.  This is a problem that has become a
block wall for me on several lines.  For a series of years (about the first
third of the 18th century, 1752, 1785) no parents are identified for any of the
"pretensos" -- the bride and groom -- on the microfilmed records for marriages
in Nochistlan.  Since the abuelos were not indentified in the christening
records till the latter part of 1798, where do I turn without having to make a
trip to Nochistlan to break down these walls?  So far I have only looked at
the films of matrimonios and bautismos on loan from the Family History Center in
SLC.

 

~Deena Ortiz~


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>Sebastian
de Vlloa

>just a guess but have you seen this
record?:

>SEBASTIAN DE VLLOA 


face="Times New Roman" size=3>  Male   Family

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size=3>http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/igi/family_group_record.asp?familyid=160665229&indi_id=500167407018&lds=1&region=10&frompage=1

face="Times New Roman" size=3>>

Sebastian de Vlloa

just a guess but have you seen this record?:


SEBASTIAN DE VLLOA
  Male   Family

Event(s):
Birth: 
Christening: 
Death: 
Burial: 

Marriages:
  Spouse:  YSABEL
XIMENES
Family
  Marriage: 
01
OCT 1727  
Nochistlan,
Zacatecas, Mexico

Messages:
Extracted
marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records
are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

Source

Digest Number 497

Has anyone traced the Ulloa family in Nochistlan back to the early 1600s?
According to Clotilde Evelia Quiarte in her book on Nochistlan, Gaspar de
Casareal y Ulloa was a founder of Nochistlan. Does anyone have Gaspar's
descendants?


I am interested because I have my grandmother Ulloa's ancestor back to
Sebastian de Ulloa born about 1704 and can't get beyond this. Perhaps
someone has done Gaspar downwards and I can use the data to link up.


Sincerely,

Charles Clark

----- Original Message -----
From:

To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 10:51 AM
Subject: [ranchos] Digest Number 497


There are 2 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

     1. Re: Newspapers - early 20th century
          From: Armando Lopez 
     2. Historic Newspapers
          From: Joseph Puentes 


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Historic Newspapers

I'd suggest emailing the University of Guadalajara closest to your
target area and asking them for which time period they have newspapers
in their archives. Then you'd have to travel there to see them if they
have what you need.



joseph



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: In 1792
Guadalajara's first printing press was set up on this site, where today
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recording equipment, and a complete television studio. The building has
long been known as the Casa de los Perros because of the two
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Newspapers - early 20th century

Hi Natalie.

I have been trying to access news from Los Altos, Jal., notably in the Arandas-Jesus Maria regions, also, but I haven't had any luck as of yet.

I have only found Catholic church publications.

Please let me know, if you're able, if you happen on any of these regional publications.

Thanks,

Armando Lopez V.

Natalie wrote:

Does anyone know of the existence of archives of newspapers in
Zacatecas for years 1880-1920? It would be interesting to read about
the contemporary news of that time period.
Thanks to all for sharing your ideas and expertise - this is always a
great place for learning.

Natalie






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Newspapers - early 20th century

Does anyone know of the existence of archives of newspapers in 
Zacatecas for years 1880-1920? It would be interesting to read about 
the contemporary news of that time period.
Thanks to all for sharing your ideas and expertise - this is always a 
great place for learning.

Natalie



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[Fwd: COLOTLAN EN LA RED: No se lo pierdan!]

I'm trying to find out if there will be a web cast of this program. .
.otherwise some of you  that have shortwave radios might want to try to
find this



joseph



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Subject: COLOTLAN EN LA RED: No se lo pierdan!
Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 16:59:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: Luis Pinedo
To: Colotlense




Colotlenses,
 
Este viernes 20 de mayo se transmitirá en red a todo Jalisco desde Radio Universidad de Colotlán el Programa Especial sobre nuestra historia, cultura, turismo ecológico y personajes de Colotlán, de 10:00 a 12:00 horas.
 
La conducción de este programa estará a cargo de Alonso Torres, quien tendrá como invitados especiales a los siguientes personajes: el Profesor Felipe Valdez Pacheco quien narrará algunas anécdotas sobre la historia y personajes de Colotlán; Lucy Vázquez que nos hablará sobre la historia de la famosa

Necesito Ayuda:Test PleaseHelp/Alberto; Angel; Helen; Lorenzo; Maria; Steven


I followed your instructions and received the following error message:





Folder Error Message!

The File You Are Looking For Is Inaccessible. 

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Puentes
To: LosRanchos
Sent: Wed, 18 May 2005 16:28:32 -0500
Subject: [ranchos] Necesito Ayuda:Test PleaseHelp/Alberto; Angel; Helen; Lorenzo; Maria; Steven


albertodua, angelrcervantes, mistyriver123, quijote1945, readysetgo95814, sgapodaca  

Will the above members please try to access my personal briefcase to see if that will be a good place to store additional Files in the future.

You need to go to "Links" then to "Genealogies" then to Click on "AntonioPuenteAnnaPlacencia" and then see if you can access both either one of the files in my briefcase. If you all can then I might have found a solution to our storage file problem. . .at least it will give us an additional 30 mb which is more than we have now.

thanks,




Yahoo! Groups Links


How to Submit Genealogies

Well I prefer Genealogy reports but if you really want you can do
charts. Put them in .rtf or .doc format for genealogy reports or .pdf
for charts.



what genealogy program are you using? Send them to me and I'll make up
a folder for you in the Files area and only group members will have
access to them.



let me know if you need help with this,



joseph



craigtwatson@... wrote:

how do i submit my charts?
 

family="SCRIPT" ptsize="18">Irene Garrett Watson

Necesito Ayuda:Test PleaseHelp/Alberto; Angel; Helen; Lorenzo; Maria; Steven



albertodua, angelrcervantes, mistyriver123, quijote1945,
readysetgo95814, sgapodaca  



Will the above members please try to access my personal briefcase to
see if that will be a good place to store additional Files in the
future.



You need to go to "Links" then to "Genealogies" then to Click on "
class="title">
href="http://f2.pg.briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/makas_nc/lst?.dir=/Genealogies&.src="">AntonioPuenteAnnaPlacencia
"
and then see if you can access both either one of the files in my
briefcase. If you all can then I might have found a solution to our
storage file problem. . .at least it will give us an additional 30 mb
which is more than we have now.



thanks,

Arturo'sMiscFiles: was-Anybody Lost? Perdido?

Arturo I would ordinarily say yes as your work might help someone else,
but we are at 80% capacity in the Files area and I want to reserve that
for the new members who I am expecting to submit their genealogies in
the near future.



thanks for the offer though and if we figure out how to get past this
storage problem I'll let you know so you can post this work.



joseph





Arturo ROMERO wrote:



Joseph,
 
 
         I have files of families that I as of yet can not make
a connection to my own family. Would you be interested in posting these
as misc files? Let me know what you think.
 
 
 
Regards
 
Arturo Romero

Joseph Puentes wrote:



Is there anyone in the group that is just starting off in their

genealogy search and feeling kind of lost? Are you not sure how to

proceed? Are you in need of some ideas of where to and what to search?

This group is not only for the advanced and midlevel researcher but
also

and especially for the beginner

Arturo'sMiscFiles: was-Anybody Lost? Perdido?

Joseph,
 
             I understand your reasoning on the matter and agree with you. I will make a list of the surnames and email them to the group, and if any member wishs I can send them what I have
on the surname.
 
 
Regards
 
 
 
Arturo Romero.
Joseph Puentes wrote:

Arturo I would ordinarily say yes as your work might help someone else, but we are at 80% capacity in the Files area and I want to reserve that for the new members who I am expecting to submit their genealogies in the near future.

thanks for the offer though and if we figure out how to get past this storage problem I'll let you know so you can post this work.

joseph


Arturo ROMERO wrote:


Joseph,
 
 
         I have files of families that I as of yet can not make a connection to my own family. Would you be interested in posting these as misc files? Let me know what you think.
 
 
 
Regards
 
Arturo Romero
Joseph Puentes wrote:


Is there anyone in the group that is just starting off in their
genealogy

Telephone Oral History

Oh wow Emilie,


That is just terrible. But then I make myself wonder what if someone out of
the blue had called me and said this to me before I ever started doing my
geneology thing.


Plus a lot of us are not here legally, you know what I mean? So we just want
to keep a low profile. Of course their could be other reasons as well.


But anyways I will be praying you get a break through.



              ~~glo~~






From: "Emilie Garcia" 
Reply-To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
To: 
Subject: [ranchos] Telephone Oral History
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 15:38:37 -0700

Yes, Joseph, I too have had, if not hostile, then indifferent and evasive
reactions to my inquiries of distant cousins even here in the US. My sister
still lives in Silicon Valley where we were raised, and she found a second
cousin in the phone book that also lives in San Jose. He admitted being
related (his father and our father were first cousins), but when she asked
for a

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Telephone Oral History

Yes, Joseph, I too have had, if not hostile, then indifferent and evasive reactions to my inquiries of distant cousins even here in the US.  My sister still lives in Silicon Valley where we were raised, and she found a second cousin in the phone book that also lives in San Jose.  He admitted being related (his father and our father were first cousins), but when she asked for a meeting, he kept putting her off saying he didn't know anything about family trees, etc.  Our father and his father are long gone. He said his mother might have some pictures.  When my sister called the mother, she denied having any pictures or documents (which is hard to believe).  My sister has been calling his mother, and she keeps putting off meeting with her.  My sister tried calling the cousin again, and he had changed his phone number!  Talk about being wary and suspicious!
 
Since we are female, have no brothers, and my father had no brothers, my sister and I have been looking for male Olague relatives in