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Message for Irma Gomez Lucero:

I sent you an Email to: igomezlucero@... but it was returned.

Do you have a different Email address where I can contact you?

John Gonzalez

1gnzlz@... 



Digest Number 549

Hi, Josie,

Unfortunately, I haven't anything on Severiana other than she might be the sister of Gregoria Salcedo and they're from Jerez. don't know their parents names or anything.:( What about your Salcedo line? What can you share about the Salcedos? Marge:)

On Jul 16, 2005, at 10:26 PM, Josie T. Trevino wrote:


Hi Margie!



I just read your message to Connie (below) and noticed that you mention a

couple by the name of Prudencio Gonzalez & Severiana Salcedo from Jerez.  I

am researching the SALCEDO line but do not have much on it.  What I do have

is in the 1700s in Saltillo, Coah......do you have anything like this?

Thanks!



Josie in San Antonio, TX







Message: 7        

   Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:00:42 -0500

   From: Margarita Vallazza

Subject: Re: Introduction



Somewhat, Connie, I think we had determined that we MIGHT be related

but not sure.



My Cenobio was born in 1846 in Jerez.  His parents were Prudencio

Gonzalez and Severiana Salcedo. 

Digest Number 549

 
Hi Margie!

I just read your message to Connie (below) and noticed that you mention a
couple by the name of Prudencio Gonzalez & Severiana Salcedo from Jerez.  I
am researching the SALCEDO line but do not have much on it.  What I do have
is in the 1700s in Saltillo, Coah......do you have anything like this?
Thanks!

Josie in San Antonio, TX



Message: 7         
   Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:00:42 -0500
   From: Margarita Vallazza 
Subject: Re: Introduction

Somewhat, Connie, I think we had determined that we MIGHT be related 
but not sure.

My Cenobio was born in 1846 in Jerez.  His parents were Prudencio 
Gonzalez and Severiana Salcedo.  Cenobio's first wife was Ma. Eleuteria 
Tobar born in 1849 in Jerez (I think, her siblings were born in 
Tlatenango de Sanchez Roman).  Her parents were Mauricio Tobar and Ma. 
Petra Escobedo Sandobal. They were from Tlatenango originally.  Cenobio 
and Eleuteria had 3 children that I know of--Josefa, Candelaria, and 
Jesus

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FW: [ranchos] Gonzales, Gtz, Perez, Franco, etc.,


 
Hi John & Ranchos Group,
 
    Lets start another Fiesta   ......   My dad makes the best
carnitas! 
 
    I see a connection already, but on the Gtz
side.  Pedro Gtz' parents were Florentino de San Miguel Gtz & Maria
Francisca Romo (who ties into the Romos of Santa Ana). 
 
Your Pedro Gtz was brother to my GG Grandfather
Dionicio Gtz.  You have another prima in Ranchos, but I'll let her
introduce herself. 
 
I also have a
connection via Antonia Franco. 
 
I'll email you privately with the rest, and spare the rest.  I have
a little on your Gonz.,  Maybe if I give you a little more info, we'll
figure them out too. 
 
Irma


From: John Gonzalez [mailto:1gnzlz@...]

Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 2:26 PM
To:
ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Gonzales, Gtz, Perez,
Franco, etc.,

 
 
 
Irma:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Irma:
 
Thank you for the information, but I don't
see any connections yet...Maybe later as I keep finding more relatives. 
Let me give you  a quick run

Introduction

Somewhat, Connie, I think we had determined that we MIGHT be related but not sure.



My Cenobio was born in 1846 in Jerez. His parents were Prudencio Gonzalez and Severiana Salcedo. Cenobio's first wife was Ma. Eleuteria Tobar born in 1849 in Jerez (I think, her siblings were born in Tlatenango de Sanchez Roman). Her parents were Mauricio Tobar and Ma. Petra Escobedo Sandobal. They were from Tlatenango originally. Cenobio and Eleuteria had 3 children that I know of--Josefa, Candelaria, and Jesus Gonzalez. Cenobio was widowed around 1878 or 79.



I don't know when my great-grandparents married--I do know that he was a LOT older than his second wife--he and his first wife had kids that were the age of his second wife and her siblings. Anyway, he married Ma. Francisca Saldivar and had Paula, Ma. Altagracia, Matteo, Francisco, Juan, Sarah,and Jose. That's the scoop so far. I have details on Eleuteria's siblings...such as their names. Marge:)

On Jul 15, 2005, at 2:45 PM, Connie

My Tio en Jerez

Thank you for the invitation.  I'll let you know for
sure early this coming week.  

Alberto Duarte
Santa Maria, California

--- Joseph Puentes  wrote:

> Alberto,
> 
> I would like to invite you to the Roman Diaz reunion
> in Long Beach on 
> Aug 6th and 7th. My Tio Alberto is suppose to be
> there. Is this 
> something you'd be interested in?
> 
> I can also ask my cousin who is not in the group if
> she knows any 
> Durantes who might have married her Roman relatives.
> 
> joseph
> 
> Margarita Vallazza wrote:
> 
> > Don't wait for some day, Everybody. The folks we
> need to interview 
> > might not be there some day when we decide that
> some day has come. 
> > Marge:) 
> 
> Tio Alberto is in his late 70's.
> 
> >
> > On Jul 15, 2005, at 9:21 AM, Alberto Duarte wrote:
> >
> >     Your uncle probably knows many of my
> relatives, since
> >     some of the Duartes were married to the
> Puentes and
> >     Romans of Jerez.  Also, I hope to meet your
> uncle some
> >     day

Introduction

Hi again!

 

Marge, I did go through your files…and was
caught by the one on Altagracia Gonzalez. Do you have
any info on Cenobio Gonzalez’s extended family? 

 

Thanks,

 

Connie

 

Connie Dominguez

10537 Candlewood Dr.

El Paso, TX  79925

(915) 799-6036

cdominguez10@...

 

-----Original Message-----

From: ranchos@...m
[mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Margarita Vallazza

Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 10:36
AM

To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [ranchos]
Introduction

 

Welcome, Connie! Go have a look at my information in
the archive files. Some of it might connect with your family. Marge Vallazza:)



On Jul 14, 2005, at 4:34 PM, Consuelo Dominguez wrote:

Hello all!



My name is
Connie Dominguez and I've just joined the Ranchos Groups. I


look forward
to learning a lot and sharing whenever I can.  I have


compiled a
lot of information over the past 9 years since I embarked


on this
journey...so much so that I can't keep a good handle on it.


Recently

My Tio en Jerez

I recently visited my Tia Maria who is 93 years young and had a great time listening to her as she shared her pictures and stories. I took my small recorded and just listened and asked questions as we viewed picture by picture.  My cousin helped scan each photo and tried naming each pic as we went along for about three hours. I know my Tia won't be with us for too much longer and I sure am thankful for her patience and generosity.  I have tried visiting in person or by phone with my older relatives and believe me they love the company and the attention.  So don't hesitate, JUST DO IT
 
Yolanda Medina Perez
El Paso, Tx.

Alberto Duarte wrote:

Your uncle probably knows many of my relatives, since
some of the Duartes were married to the Puentes and
Romans of Jerez.  Also, I hope to meet your uncle some
day.

Alberto Duarte
Santa Maria, California

--- Joseph Puentes wrote:

>
> My Tio Alberto Roman lives in Jerez. If anyone is
> going there for a
> visit let me know maybe

Alberto---un Favor/My Tio en Jerez

Alberto,

I've been very negligent in looking in your folder. Or possibly you
entered some things there and didn't sent out a notice to the group. no
matter. What i need is a favor from you. I see you are using Family Tree
Maker is that correct? Well I need for you to make up two "Genealogy
Reports" one for Fernando Durante and one for Francisco Prieto that
would be the same report for your trees. These trees are very difficult
for me to follow and I think the "Genealogy Report" would better
represent your family in "addition" to your "Tree chart". can you do
this for me? After sending me those files and any other representative
files you'd like to submit I will remove your .FTW file because thos
that don't have Family Tree Maker won't be able to access it. I want all
the files to be available to all persons regardless of their software.
That is almost impossible to do but most folks do have Word on their
computers and that in my opinion is the closest I can get.


let me

My Tio en Jerez

Alberto,



I would like to invite you to the Roman Diaz reunion in Long Beach on
Aug 6th and 7th. My Tio Alberto is suppose to be there. Is this
something you'd be interested in?



I can also ask my cousin who is not in the group if she knows any
Durantes who might have married her Roman relatives.



joseph



Margarita Vallazza wrote:

Don't wait for
some day, Everybody. The folks we need to interview
might not be there some day when we decide that some day has come.
Marge:)

Tio Alberto is in his late 70's.



On Jul 15, 2005, at 9:21 AM, Alberto Duarte wrote:



Your uncle probably knows many of my relatives, since


some of the Duartes were married to the Puentes and


Romans of Jerez.  Also, I hope to meet your uncle some


day.




Alberto Duarte


Santa Maria, California




--- Joseph Puentes wrote:




>


> My Tio Alberto Roman lives in Jerez. If anyone is


> going there for a

My Tio en Jerez

Very true. 

I'm planning to go to Jerez before July 2006. Sorry to
say, but many of my uncles and aunts are passing away

Alberto Duarte

--- Margarita Vallazza  wrote:

> Don't wait for some day, Everybody.  The folks we
> need to interview 
> might not be there some day when we decide that some
> day has come.  
> Marge:)
> On Jul 15, 2005, at 9:21 AM, Alberto Duarte wrote:
> 
> > Your uncle probably knows many of my relatives,
> since
> >  some of the Duartes were married to the Puentes
> and
> >  Romans of Jerez.  Also, I hope to meet your
> uncle some
> >  day.
> >
> >  Alberto Duarte
> >  Santa Maria, California
> >
> >  --- Joseph Puentes  wrote:
> >
> >  >
> >  > My Tio Alberto Roman lives in Jerez. If anyone
> is
> >  > going there for a
> >  > visit let me know maybe you can meet him. He is
> a
> >  > retired priest and
> >  > might be able to open doors that might
> otherwise be
> >  > closed.
> >  >
> >  > thanks,
> >  >
> >  > joseph
> >  >
>

My Tio en Jerez

Don't wait for some day, Everybody. The folks we need to interview might not be there some day when we decide that some day has come. Marge:)

On Jul 15, 2005, at 9:21 AM, Alberto Duarte wrote:


Your uncle probably knows many of my relatives, since

some of the Duartes were married to the Puentes and

Romans of Jerez.  Also, I hope to meet your uncle some

day.



Alberto Duarte

Santa Maria, California



--- Joseph Puentes wrote:



>

> My Tio Alberto Roman lives in Jerez. If anyone is

> going there for a

> visit let me know maybe you can meet him. He is a

> retired priest and

> might be able to open doors that might otherwise be

> closed.

>

> thanks,

>

> joseph

>

>

>





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Introduction

Welcome, Connie! Go have a look at my information in the archive files. Some of it might connect with your family. Marge Vallazza:)



On Jul 14, 2005, at 4:34 PM, Consuelo Dominguez wrote:


Hello all!



My name is Connie Dominguez and I've just joined the Ranchos Groups. I

look forward to learning a lot and sharing whenever I can.  I have

compiled a lot of information over the past 9 years since I embarked

on this journey...so much so that I can't keep a good handle on it.

Recently, I lost all of my old Word documents (things I'd compiled,

lists, copies of emails & posts, etc.) in a computer crash. A few

paper copies that I had just happened to print out survived. I will

try to reproduce or scan (bit by bit) what I feel might be useful to

the group. 



I began working on my own family tree and slowly began to branch out

to help others. What was once a light hobby became much more. I began

corresponding with many researchers, including some in this group, and

began

My Tio en Jerez

Your uncle probably knows many of my relatives, since
some of the Duartes were married to the Puentes and
Romans of Jerez.  Also, I hope to meet your uncle some
day.

Alberto Duarte
Santa Maria, California

--- Joseph Puentes  wrote:

> 
> My Tio Alberto Roman lives in Jerez. If anyone is
> going there for a 
> visit let me know maybe you can meet him. He is a
> retired priest and 
> might be able to open doors that might otherwise be
> closed.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> joseph
> 
> 
> 


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this is a wonderful map but I was disappointed because some places out
in the sticks (like Rougemont) only show up as topographical maps.


but otherwise it really is like you said a wonderful resource. .
.everyone needs to have it on their computer if it's capable.


joseph

lrapido wrote:

I wonder how many of our members know about "Earth Google"?
If you already know and are using this site, you are very lucky!

This site allows you to travel practically all over the world
without leaving your desk.


Most of us don't have enough money to go visit our ancestor's
Ranchos. by using this program, you can go zoom right in to almost
any place on the globe. This morning I visited: Guadalajara,
Aguascalients, Zacatecas, Mexico City, Can Cun and finally got back
to my own hometown and neighborhood. I could even go visit Joseph if
I knew his address...


Go to: earth.google.com and read all about it. I am sure you'll end
up downloading the program. It is FREE!


Some of our

Web site

I wonder how many of our members know about "Earth Google"?
If you already know and are using this site, you are very lucky!
This site allows you to travel practically all over the world 
without leaving your desk.

Most of us don't have enough money to go visit our ancestor's 
Ranchos. by using this program, you can go zoom right in to almost 
any place on the globe. This morning I visited: Guadalajara, 
Aguascalients, Zacatecas, Mexico City, Can Cun and finally got back 
to my own hometown and neighborhood. I could even go visit Joseph if 
I knew his address...

Go to: earth.google.com and read all about it. I am sure you'll end 
up downloading the program. It is FREE!

Some of our members might not be able to use the program because of 
system requirements.  You'll find what is need it when you go to the 
web site.

Good luck 



Introduction

Hello all!

My name is Connie Dominguez and I've just joined the Ranchos Groups. I
look forward to learning a lot and sharing whenever I can.  I have
compiled a lot of information over the past 9 years since I embarked
on this journey...so much so that I can't keep a good handle on it.
Recently, I lost all of my old Word documents (things I'd compiled,
lists, copies of emails & posts, etc.) in a computer crash. A few
paper copies that I had just happened to print out survived. I will
try to reproduce or scan (bit by bit) what I feel might be useful to
the group.  

I began working on my own family tree and slowly began to branch out
to help others. What was once a light hobby became much more. I began
corresponding with many researchers, including some in this group, and
began learning and helping.  I welcomed challenges from fellow
researchers and tried to answer as many as I could. In fact, I began
researching/answering so many requests from others that it's been
years since I've

Telephone Oral History Script

well, speaking spanish is a must. I didn't say speaking fluently but
near fluency is a must.



=============================



I just tell whoever answers that My name is Joseph Puentes and that I'm
calling all the Puente and Puentes' in the phone book to see if maybe
we are distantly related. I go on to say I'm a genealogist and have
traced the family back to 1730. Tracing my family history gives me
great enjoyment and I would be glad to share that information if i can
make a connection between our families. I tell them I think we're
related because most of the Puentes from [that area] are related one
way or another.



if the person answering is young then I ask if maybe their parents or
grandparents are available to speak with. I also make sure to ask if
anyone in the family is interested in remembering the history of the
family, remember the names, or are intereste in making the genealogy
tree.



I go on to tell them my parents and grandparents names and make them
understand that

1st Complete Draft

Joseph, you are doing an excellent job..Very
professional.

Alberto Duarte 
Santa Maria, California

--- "Janet V. Iglesias" 
wrote:

> Minor spelling errors. Read below. Very good Job!!
> 
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Joseph Puentes
> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 2:50 AM
> To: John Gonzalez; marge vallazza; LosRanchos
> Subject: [ranchos] 1st Complete Draft
> 
> 
> 
> I just want to thanks both Marge Vallazza and John
> Gonzalez for their help
> in translating the message I send to people that
> express their interest in
> joining the group. 
> 
> Unless some of you have some very strong feelings
> about changes this is the
> way its going to be.  .   .but if you do have a
> strong opinion please let me
> know.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> joseph
> 
> ===========================
> 
> Saludos,
> 
>  
> Gracias por el interes que tiene en hacerse miembro
> de Ranchos
> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos/)

1st Complete Draft

Minor spelling errors. Read below. Very good
Job!!



From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph
Puentes
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 2:50 AM
To: John
Gonzalez; marge vallazza; LosRanchos
Subject: [ranchos] 1st Complete
Draft


I just want to thanks both Marge Vallazza and John Gonzalez for
their help in translating the message I send to people that express their
interest in joining the group.

Unless some of you have some very strong
feelings about changes this is the way its going to be.     .but
if you do have a strong opinion please let me
know.

thanks,

joseph

===========================

Saludos,

 

Gracias por el interes
que tiene en hacerse miembro de Ranchos (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos/) 
Ranchos es un pequeño pero dedicado grupo de investigadores serios. 
Aquí está la
descripcion del grupo:

"Este grupo es
para personas que estan activamente buscando sus Raices Mexicanas.  El
objetivo de este grupo cibernético es para

My Tio en Jerez


My Tio Alberto Roman lives in Jerez. If anyone is going there for a
visit let me know maybe you can meet him. He is a retired priest and
might be able to open doors that might otherwise be closed.


thanks,

joseph



Help in Jerez Zacatecas

There is a site posted by Mr. Berumen de la Torre that you might 
enjoy, it helped me since my Spanish is poor and reading the really 
old records is a learning experience for me.  When I compared my notes 
with what Mr. Berumen posted online I found I had missed some 
important information.  His site is 
http://club.telepolis.com/letorre/archivo/introduccion.htm
It seems to still be under construction but his posted records were 
very helpful to me.
Linda



1st Complete Draft

Hi Joseph:
 
Great!  The first part in Spanish looks
good.  I don't see anything wrong with it.
 
I have made minor corrections to
your translation of the part in Spanish and to the last
paragraph. 
 
John González 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 2:50
AM
Subject: [ranchos] 1st Complete
Draft


I just want to thanks both
Marge Vallazza and John Gonzalez for their help in translating the message I
send to people that express their interest in joining the group.


Unless some of you have some very strong feelings about changes this
is the way its going to be.  .   .but if you do have a strong
opinion please let me
know.

thanks,

joseph

===========================

Saludos,

 

Gracias por el interes que tiene en hacerse miembro de
Ranchos (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos/) 
Ranchos es un pequeño pero dedicado grupo de

1st Complete Draft



I just want to thanks both Marge Vallazza and John Gonzalez for their
help in translating the message I send to people that express their
interest in joining the group.



Unless some of you have some very strong feelings about changes this is
the way its going to be.  .   .but if you do have a strong opinion
please let me know.



thanks,



joseph



===========================



Saludos,

 

Gracias por el interes
que tiene en hacerse miembro de Ranchos (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos/) 
Ranchos es un pequeño pero dedicado grupo de investigadores serios. 
Aqí está la descripcion del grupo:



"Este grupo es para
personas que estan activamente buscando sus Raices Mexicanas.  El
objetivo de este grupo cibernético es para poner en contacto
genealogistas serios que tienen raices en Jalisco, Zacatecas, y
Aguascalientes, y así facilitar las investigaciones genealogicas de los
miembros.  La intención, pero nunca la regla, es pemanecer enfocados en
los ranchos de Jalisco, Zacatecas y