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I recently found in the Guadalajara dispensas a record for the marriage of JOSE GREGORIO FLORES and MARIA AGRIPITA MARQUEZ. (Agripita was the great-granddaughter of PHELIPE MARQUEZ DE LOS OLIVOS and FRANCISCA XAVIERA SANCHEZ.) The record shows a tronco with the name of JOSE MARQUEZ who was the father of FELIPE MARQUEZ, who was the father of JOSE ANTONIO MARQUEZ, who was the father of FELIX MARQUEZ, who was the father of MARIA AGRIPITA MARQUEZ (la pretensa). The record also shows FELIPE's brother, FRANCISCO MARQUEZ, who was the father of MARIA JOSEFA MARQUEZ, who was the mother of JUAN ANTONIO FLORES, who was the father of JOSE GREGORIO FLORES (el pretenso).

The record can be found:

www.guadalajaradispensas.com
1803 FHL Source Film #168128
image #263, image #269 tronco

Thank you, Claudia.

Still searching in Colotlan,

Rita Navarro
Bakersfield, CA

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necesidad de mantenimiento y actualización de algunos y si no podemos
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para mantener vivo el sitio. En el espíritu de voluntariado que esta sería
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de la solicitud de apoyo financiero.

Si puedes ayudar, utilice el formulario de contacto contacto con Arturo
Ramos o enviar un correo electrónico al moderador [arroba]
nuestrosranchos.org.

Do you have a technical background? Have you worked on websites before or
would like to learn to do so? We are an all volunteer group and as such,
the maintenance of the Nuestros Ranchos site falls on just a couple of
shoulders that could use some help.

If you have any experience in programming, content management systems, MySQL
databases, your skills could be very valuable to the Nuestros Ranchos
community. The website is in dire need of some maintenance and updates and
unless we can get more volunteers, we may need to hire programmers to keep
the site alive. In the spirit of volunteerism this would be your
opportunity to give a little back and help us keep this group free from the
solicitation of financial support.

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¿Tienes una formación técnica? ¿Has trabajado en sitios web antes o le
gustaría aprender a hacerlo? Somos un grupo de voluntarios de todo y como
tal, el mantenimiento del sitio Nuestros Ranchos cae en sólo un par de
hombros que podría utilizar alguna ayuda.

Si usted tiene alguna experiencia programación, sistemas de administración
de contenido, bases de datos MySQL, tus habilidades podrían ser muy valiosas
para la comunidad de Nuestros Ranchos. El sitio web está en extrema
necesidad de mantenimiento y actualización de algunos y si no podemos
conseguir a más voluntarios, es posible que debamos contratar programadores
para mantener vivo el sitio. En el espíritu de voluntariado que esta sería
su oportunidad para dar un poco atrás y ayúdenos a mantener este grupo libre
de la solicitud de apoyo financiero.

Si puedes ayudar, utilice el formulario de contacto contacto con Arturo
Ramos o enviar un correo electrónico al moderador [arroba]
nuestrosranchos.org.

Just curious, but does anyone know if there's any Mexican Inquisition documents online on Familysearch.com, or elsewhere that we can look at?

Chris Pineda

The confirmation Book ( there is only one )for the Villa del Refugio,Zac.
Image no. 37 of 607.

There are no page numbers. This is at the bottom of the left page. I dont think it has anything to do with Confirmation. I only recognize a few words.
here is the link

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15089-1284-27?cc=1804458&wc=…

this is my translation.

J. Jesus Serna y Anto. Serna hijos de D. Domingo Serna, los 11 pesos 84 cent. abonaron (to pay or Credit)4 ??? 8 ???, ????ando ?o el Domingo que ??? 8 ???? y ?????........???????? D. Domingo Serna y ???? por Jesus Serna y Anto. (Ruiz or Rodg.)y Anto. Serna (Autro) ???? ?? Pedro y ????? Hernadz. ?????.

I'm having a hard time trying to decipher exactly what my great-great-great grandfather's birth record says. I know the following information:
"En la Iglesia Parroquial del pueblo de Tonalá, a veinte de Agosto de mil ochocientos nueve...... D. Jose Eugenio Moreno, bautizé solemnamente a José Lorenzo de Jesús.....hijo legítimo de Jose Maria Chavez y Maria Valentina...... Son Los abuelos paternos, Franco Chavez y Maria ??"
Some parts are easy to read, others are difficult. I feel I'm missing lots of information that I can't make out. Help would be appreciated. (Jose Lorenzo de Jesús was the father of Cenobio Chavez, who was the father of Bernardino Chavez.)
Thanks,
Bernie

Hello Everyone,

I'm asking for help. I can't see to find any information on Cristobal (Xptobal) de Lomelin. He should be from the late 1600's. I know he got married in Jalostotitlan in 1716 and fathered several children there. But I cannot find where he was from or his birthday. Can someone give me a hand ? thanks

I have been reconcidering my practice of recording page numbers, entry number for the person (If given), and also the IMAGE NUMBER. I have started to wonder if this a bad idea due to the fact that there may be online updates which may move the entry to a different image Number.. your thoughts ?

Necesito ayuda, no entiendo las palabras que dice de que murio? Muchas gracias, Nora

Hello,
I'm wondering if anyone has any information about Urbano Contreras and/or Josefa Velasco? Both were born around 1680-1690. I have found evidence that they or their descendants lived in southern Zacatecas and possibly in Guanajuato and Jalisco. It's possible that there are several couples with the same names around this time, but I believe that the same family moved around a lot.

Below is the baptism for one of their children, but I haven't found other online records for them in Monterey.

Thank you--Arturo

name: Juan Joseph Contreras Velas
baptism/christening date: 18 Mar 1711
baptism/christening place: SAGRARIO METROPOLITANO,MONTERREY,NUEVO LEON,MEXICO
father's name: Vrbano De Contreras
mother's name: Josepha De Velas

film: 605147
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-159380-30568-79?cc=1410092&w…

Thanks for any translations..
The entry is from Villa Del Refugio, Santa Maria Mecatabasco, Zac.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15087-14291-97?cc=1804458&wc…

Marriage MAY 5 1790 Image number 108 of 669 Images. Jose Simon Rojas y Ma. de Jesus
I have unfamiliarity with some of the Abbreviations. My reading Follows.

En 5 de Mayo de 90. Yo el ??? Juan Jose Dias ******* a ????? Rojas con Maria de Jesus ??? de este Puo ??? Jose Alejo Eluterio, y Maria Josefa Migl Guadalaxara y Xavier Monico y lo firme con el Sor cura

My questions ..1. Is Simon the name of the groom Rojas ? 2. What is the Abbreviation after the bride Ma. de Jesus. Is it an abreviation for a last name (Otn a) (9tn a) ?? 3. What is the significance of the names that follow the groom and bride.

I have seen this abbrev. Otna or something that looks like a curvy 9tna .. It was seen in my recent post and again in another post following a persons name..What is this .. isnt there a book published that has abbreviations listed ?

i found the marriage dispensation for joseph roman & josefa cid caldera

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18413-45522-2?cc=1874591&wc=…

it starts on the previous page from the link.

i posted the link to the second page since it states how they are related ( i think)

i'm getting confused when reading it though. i see that pedro carrillo davila, and juan carrillo davila are sibling, but i am not sure how either groom or bride are related to those two brothers

There is an Orozco Moreno family of which I am looking for their ancestors and cannot find them. Tha father is Jose Maria Orozco son of Manuel Orozco and Guadalupe Camarena and the mother is Mariana Moreno daughter of Juan Jose Moreno and Josefa Hernandez Gamino. Their four eldest children are baptized in La Inmaculada Concepcion, San Diego de Alejandria: Jose de Jesus (nov 2, 1803), Jose Ramon (march 9, 1806), Maria Felipa de Jesus (feb 16, 1809), Josef Felipe de Jesus (feb 16, 1809) and their last child Maria Francisca was bapt. in Señor de la Ascencion at Union de San Antonio on dec 12, 1811.I have grandchildren and great-grandchildren but havent been able to find the parents or grandparents origin or beyond that. I have their info only because it is stated on the baptism records.

About their children :Jose de Jesus Orozco Moreno married Maria de la Merced Hurtado (daughter of Domingo Hurtado and Crus Marques) and had Maria Petra Orozco Hurtado at Union de San Antonio in 1836 whom got married to Ramon Gascon Centeno (son of Antonio Gascon and Maria de la Concepcion Centeno) in 1851, they had 5 children.

Josef Felipe de Jesus Orozco Moreno married Geronima Espinoza and had Maria Reyes Orozco whom got married to Eufracio Hurtado (son of Ysidro Hurtado de Anda and Rosa Maria Noberta Muñoz Marques) in 1862, and had 4 children.

Hope someone has info about them.
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Hay una familia de apellido Orozco Moreno de la cual no encuentro a los ancestros. El padre es Jose Maria Orozco hijo de Manuel Orozco y Guadalupe Camarena y la madre es Mariana Moreno hija de Juan Jose Moreno y Josefa Hernandez Gamino. Sus cuatro hijos mayores fueron todos bautizados en La Inmaculada Concepcion, San Diego de Alejandria: Jose de Jesus (nov 2, 1803), Jose Ramon (marzo 9, 1806), Maria Felipa de Jesus (feb 16, 1809), Josef Felipe de Jesus (feb 16, 1809) y su ultima hija Maria Francisca fue bautizada en Señor de la Ascencion en la Union de San Antonio en dic 12, 1811. Les tengo nietos y bisnietos pero no he podido encontrar el origen de los padres y abuelos o más alla de eso. Solamente tengo la informacion que se menciona en los registros bautismales.

Quiero compartir los datos que he obtenido en estos ultimos meses con datos que pongo a su consideracion y opinion en orden cronologico:

El primer registro(PARES) en Mexico que mencionan a un Sanchez-Castellanos es el de Antonio Sánchez Castellanos, Expediente de concesión de licencia para pasar a México a favor del licenciado Antonio Sánchez Castellano, racionero de México, con su hermana Rafaela de San Juan, naturales de Toledo, hijos de Alonso Castellano y de Inés de la Fuente, y con dos criados. En 1585 se hace el pase pero en 1584 se le concede el de Racionero de la Nueva Galicia.

El registro siguiente es el de Agustin de Castellanos presbitero(PARES).
Informaciones de oficio y parte: Agustín de Castellanos, beneficiado de Sosola, natural de Antequera. Contiene información de su tío Gabriel Sánchez Castellanos (1564-1606) y parecer del obispo de Antequera
ES.41091.AGI/22.13.231//MEXICO,231,N.12 oficio realizado en 1613
Nota: Sosola, del valle de Oaxaca. (Hoy San Geronimo, Sosola), al parecer testifica Pedro de Acevedo cuñado y no entiendo si es presbitero (Agustin o Pedro), es hijo de Alonso de Castellanos y de Marta de Solis, nieto de Diego de Castellanos y Maria Sánchez. Su tio el canonigo Gabriel Sánchez Castellanos tambien hijo de Diego que fue uno de los primeros conquistadores de esta Nueva España. Marta Solis fue hija de Francisco Rodriguez de la Cor??huela (de Campos??) y de Luisa de Portillo. Y Francisco rodriguez fue de los primeros pobladores de la Nueva España. Fueron cristianos viejos, limpios de toda macula de moros o judios (limpieza de sangre).

El siguinte registro (PARES) es el de Maria de Don Marcos esposa de Bartolome Garcia Roldan pasaan a la Nueva España en 1618, Maria era hija de Francisco Sanchez-Castellanos natural de Sevilla y de Catalina Diaz de Don marcos. Francisco Sanchez-Castellanos gue hijo de Lorenzo Sanchez-Castellanos y de Juana Garcia de Balboa.

El siguinte registro es el de Manuel Sanchez-Castellanos (PARES) que en febrero de 1607 solicita en la casa de contratacion de Sevilla su pase a la Nueva España para ser favorecido por su tio Francisco Castellon hermano de su padre Manuel Martin, en esta solicitud dice que es de 28 años y que viajara con su mujer Catalina de Caceres y con sus hijos JUAN(4 años), DIEGO(1 año), LORENZA(3 años) y ANA recien nacida. Despues de la autorizacion zarpan en enero de 1608 a la Nueva España.

I only see the Diosecees of Durango, I have been unable to find this film online .
This is the record im searching for.

name: Maria Rudecinda Rojas
gender: Female
christening date: 05 Mar 1797
christening place: SAN PEDRO APOSTOL,NOMBRE DE DIOS,DURANGO,MEXICO
birth date: 02 Mar 1797
birthplace:

i've seen several family trees showing maria carrillo also also being his niece. how was this connect made. I can't seem to find any document showing who maria carrillo's parents are.

I'm skeptical about her being pedro's niece since if i remeber correctly, marriages between uncle and niece weren't allowed.

Joseph this message doesn't seem to show up on the Nuestros Ranchos
website. Has anyone been looking into the fact that some messages don't get
posted and that some posts don't get emailed?

Armando

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 7:52 AM, Joseph Puentes wrote:

> I have a Macos Diaz married to a Cipriana Godina (see:
> http://tinyurl.com/c97mo2f) and in that record it says there is a
> Dispensa.
> I was first looking in the Informacion Matrimonial and couldn't find
> anything.
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> My question is I know it is probably in the Guadalajara Dispensas but
> wouldn't there be information in the Informacion Matrimonial films as well?
> What determines if there is only info in the Informacion Matrimonial films
> or only in the Guadalajara Dispensa films?
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> Thanks for your help,
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> Joseph
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> Joseph Puentes
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It happened to a bunch of people at school yesterday. The school said it was all from hacked yahoo accounts. They said it appeared to just be a yahoo problem and recommended people switch to gmail or another provider with better security.

Christopher de Cuellar

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Joseph What is this??????

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Joseph and Tricia:

I'm reguesting a lead on Bartholome Delgado and Francisca Merquelin Chevarria my 9th Great grandparents. They married on April 3, 1701 in Pinos, Zacatecas. I have their marriage dispensation that provides their parents names Francisco Delgado and
Petra Martin Chaves and Francisco Merquelin Chevarria and Juana Delgado y Valensuela.

Marriage Dipensation Guadalajara, Diocesis de Guadalajara, matrimonios 1700-1705 Source number 168605/159-162.

Through information from Nuestros Ranchos I also have validation that when widowed Francisco Delgado married Juana Delgado y Valensuela in 1700 at Pinos, Zacatecas.

I would appreciate help in finding documentation to continue my tree!
Carolina

Hello Everyone,

I have hit a wall regarding Nicolas Sanchez Moreno and Maria Flores who had in Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco

A)Pedro Jose b. 1713
B)Luisa (Moreno) b. 1715 m. to Ylario Parada on 21 Jan 1734 in Lagos
C)Ana Maria b. 1717
D)Jose b. 1719
E)Miguel Tomas b. 1721 m. Maria Antonia Dias on 18 February 1743 in Atotonilco el Alto
F)Maria Francisca b. 1723
G)Juana Quieteria b. 1725
H)Maria Guadalupe b. 1728 m. to Jose Antonio Munoz on 4 Feb 1744 in Lagos
I)Antonio Teodicio b. 1730

and in La Barca, Jalisco

A)Lorenza de los Santos b. 1731
B)Jose Joaquin b. 1734
C)Jose b. 1737

If anyone knows anything more about the families of Nicolas or Maria I'd be really grateful for the help. Thank You!

Do any of you have parents or grandparents raised in the section houses of
the Santa Fe RR during the 1920s to 1950s in San Bernardino or Riverside
Counties? These would have included San Bernardino (4th St), Verdemont,
Keenbrook, Cajon, Summit, Hesperia, Oro Grande, Hodge, Barstow, Redlands,
Menifee, Box Springs, Riverside (not an exhaustive list). Spurred by a
reference to the section workers in the latest Somos Primos, I've decided
to use the family info I've already collected, supplement it, and write at
least one article to document this short-lived way of life. My parents
grew up in the section houses and most of my male relatives for two
generations worked at some time for the Santa Fe. There is little to
nothing written about life in the section houses, and photos are rare.
Unfortunately, most families were too poor to own a camera and those that
did were not thinking of documenting their housing.

If you have any stories or photos to share, please email me. Thanks so
much.

Raquel Ruiz
ruiz.raquel061@gmail.com

What does the Abreviated name stand for . Jph. Antta. found in a mexico Baptism record.