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Mota and Campos

Carol
Our
Victoria Mota is 'Manuela Victoria MOTA Serrano b. 8 Mar 1854 doc.  She is
the sister to Rich's GGgrandmother. 
We do
not have any records for Lorenzo Campos or his parents.  Lorenzo's
grandfather is Juan Manuel CAMPOS Soto married to Maria Antonia LUNA a sibling
of Rich's ancestors.   If you have birth/marriage dates for your Sara
CAMPOS Mota  or Lorenzo CAMPOS we will be happy to look for you while in
SLC. 
 
You
asked about our ALVARES line
The
correct Alvarez line we have starts with Maria Luisa
de San Carlos ALVARES  married to Juan Jose Zenon SERRANO dau of Juan Jose
ALVARES Casillas and Ma. Josefa De la Luz FLORES Ennriques.  Her
grandparents are Antonio de Paudua ALVARES and Ma. Manuela Eugenia
CASILLAS  and Nicolas FLORES and Antonia ENNRIQUES. 
 
The
incorrect Alvares line that we followed for two years is:
 Maria Luisa ALBARES also married to another Juan Jose SERRANO
Robles, dau of Santiago ALBARES  and Maria Petronila MIRAMONTES.  This
ones

Castañeda, de la Torre, Luna, and Ulloa from Tlaltenango

Hello Cousin Maria!

Well now, I sure do want the info you have on our relatives!  Isn't this fun?!!  I am thinking there are now THREE of you who I connect with///You/Maria; Angie/ and Kitty and Rich!  How are you related to Antonio Campos and Maria Eufracia Castaneda?  They would be my fifth generation grandparents..a direct line!

Regards
Carol Lester

-----Original Message-----
From: readysetgo95814 
Sent: Mar 11, 2005 8:52 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Re: Castañeda, de la Torre, Luna, and Ulloa from Tlaltenango



Angie,

You are so right.  In fact, I had Maria Eufrasia's birth and 
marriage details in my database.

Carol, add me to your growing list of cousins.  I have more info on 
the Castañedas I could share with you.

Unfortunately Angie, I couldn't connect any of the names on your 
list with the ones in my database.  I would think they are related 
somehow because the names, places and time periods match up, but I 
don't see the connection

Campos Families - Luna

Hello Kitty:
 
Well, I did some researching for the "Mota" line and it is absolutely the same as what you have; Benito Mota/Jose Benito Mota Ramirez, born 23 Mar 1832, Santo Thomas De Momax, Zac. Mx., to Istanislao Mota and Ramona Ramirez (IGI Familysearch/Batch#: C600843/1829-1850.  Marriage to Maria De La Paz De Los Reyes, 23 Dec. 1857, Santo Thomas De Momax, Zac. Mx.(IGI Familysearch/Batch #: C600844/1850-1875.   The child I am interested in is "Maria Victoriana Mota Reyes", born 23 Dec 1857, Santo Thomas De Momax, Zac. Mx. (IGI Familysearch/Batch #: C600844/1850-1875.
This is my Victoriana Mota who married Lorenzo De Campos (Son of Jose Manuel De Campos//Antonioe De Campos/Juan Manuel De Campos  Soto.).  One of their children was Sara Campos Mota, my grandmother.    What I would like to know is do you have birth record for Lorenzo's children?  If so, I would very much like to have copies of them.  Also, I am curious about the Alvarez that is in your line?
 
Regards,
Carol Lester


---

Ygnacio Correa and Maria Juliana Torres

Peggy,

Here is some information, I am not sure if you already have it.

YGNACIO CORREA
  Male
Marriages:
  Spouse:  MARIA JULIANA TORRES
  Marriage:  14 OCT 1811   Tepechitlan, Zacatecas, Mexico
Messages:
 Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The 
source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage 
date.
Source Information:
 Batch No.:  Dates:  Source Call No.:
 M600819  1807 - 1848  0445048   

Children:
JOSE APOLINARIO CORREAS TORRES
Gender: Male Christening: 23 JUL 1812 Tepechitlan, Zacatecas, Mexico

PABLO YGNACIO CORREAS TORRE
Gender: Male Christening: 16 JAN 1814 Tepechitlan, Zacatecas, Mexico

JOSE BUENAVENTURA DE JESUS CORREA TORRE
Gender: Male Christening: 19 JUL 1815 Tepechitlan, Zacatecas, Mexico

MA. DE LA TRINIDAD CORREA TORRES
Gender: Female Christening: 22 JAN 1817 Tepechitlan, Zacatecas, 
Mexico 

JOSE EUGENIO CORREA TORRE
Gender: Male Christening: 16 NOV 1819 Tepechitlan, Zacatecas, Mexico

MARIA YGNACIA CORREA TORRES
Gender

Castañeda, de la Torre, Luna, and Ulloa from Tlaltenango

Angie,

You are so right.  In fact, I had Maria Eufrasia's birth and 
marriage details in my database.

Carol, add me to your growing list of cousins.  I have more info on 
the Castañedas I could share with you.

Unfortunately Angie, I couldn't connect any of the names on your 
list with the ones in my database.  I would think they are related 
somehow because the names, places and time periods match up, but I 
don't see the connection right now. Maybe in time we'll connect them.

For now...thanks for pointing out my connection to Carol's 
Castañedas.  I had looked at her folder, but somehow missed it.

Maria

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "aajay1073"  wrote:
> 
> Maria,
> 
> It seems you and Carol share the same Castaneda, since she 
descends 
> from Maria Eufrasia CASTANEDA TORRE daughter of Manuel Castañeda 
and 
> Maria Antonia de la Torre, married to Anttonio Casimirio CAMPOS 
LUNA 
> son of Juan Manuel CAMPOS SOTO and Maria Anttonia DE LUNA.
> 
> Here is my

CinecioMarquez/AntoniaValenzuela

Thanks!!!

 

-----Original
Message-----

From: Joseph Puentes
[mailto:makas@...]

Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 5:36
PM

To: LosRanchos

Subject: [ranchos]
CinecioMarquez/AntoniaValenzuela

 

These should give you the next generation back:


JOSE HERMENEGILDO MARQUEZ VALENZUELA

 

 

Male

 

 

 



Event(s):

Birth: 

 

 

Christening: 


17 APR 1823  

San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico

Death: 

 

 

Burial: 

 

 

 


 

 



Parents:

 

Father: 

JOSE
CINECIO MARQUEZ

Family

 

Mother: 

MARIA
ANTONIA VALENZUELA

 

 


CinecioMarquez/AntoniaValenzuela

These should give you the next generation back:


JOSE HERMENEGILDO MARQUEZ
VALENZUELA

  Male    

Event(s):
Birth: 
Christening: 
17
APR 1823  
San Luis, Colotlan,
Jalisco, Mexico
Death: 
Burial: 

Parents:
  Father:  JOSE
CINECIO MARQUEZ
Family
  Mother:  MARIA
ANTONIA VALENZUELA
 

Messages:
Extracted
birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The
source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or

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Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman

Hi Angie!

Yes,
thanks to your help earlier last year, I was able to fill in some of the
Raigosa lines.

 

My Correa
line is through my paternal great grandmother, Maria Correa, born 8/1891 in
Tlaltenango.

Her mother
was Maria Antonia Correa.  In the
civil registry/birth record, it was said that her father was “unknown’, and
that she would keep

Her maternal
surname of Correa.  However in
anther record, they DO list the father as Runaldo Herrera who’s parents were
Pedro Herrera and Maria Lopez)

 

Maria
Antonia Correa’s parents were Eugenio Correa and Maria Jesus Dorado (I forgot
to put the “Dorado” name on my list) married in

5/1839 in Tepechitlan,
Zacatecas, Mexico.  Eugenio was
born in 1819 and Maria Jesus Dorado in 1823, both in Tepechitlan.  Maria Jesus Dorado’s parents were

Franco
Dorado and Venancia Estrada. 
Eugenio’s parents were Ygnacio Correa and Juliana de la Torre, years not
yet known.

They also
had the following children:

Maria
Ygnacia Correa, b 1821

Mari

Campos Families - Luna

Hi  Angie,
 
Ynes Gertrudes LUNA married to Josseph Marsselino
MOTA  20 Sep 1771 igi and
Maria Antonia LUNA married Juan Manuel de CAMPOS  17
Feb 1744 igi
We need both of these documents.  We plan on looking
for them this April in SLC.
Ynes Gertrudes is on the pedigree chart  and Maria
Antonia is a married to a sibling.
 
We also want to confirm that Josseph Marsselino MOTA 
and Marselino Joseph MOTA Campos are the same.  We have Marselino Joseph
MOTA Campos chris.  14 Jun 1750 doc and his age fits in. Marselino Joseph's
parents are Felis Pedro de MOTA  and Antonia Jossephfa de CAMPOS.  If
these two are one and the same,  then we have Felis Pedro and Antonia 
Jossephfa twice on the pedigree chart.
 
Kitty
 



From: aajay1073 [mailto:aajay1073@yahoo.com]

Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 4:03 PM
To:
ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Re: Campos Families -
Luna


Kitty,

So then you and Carol share Luna families,
right?  Since Ynes
Gertrudes Luna and Maria Antonia Luna are

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Campos Families - Luna

Kitty,

So then you and Carol share Luna families, right?  Since Ynes 
Gertrudes Luna and Maria Antonia Luna are sisters.  They're both 
daughters of Vicente De Luna and Feliciana Magallanes...

- Angie

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Kitty Cortez"  wrote:
> I just checked our records for Campos.
> We have: 
> _____________________________________________
> Antonia Josephia de CAMPOS m. to Felis Pedro de MOTA  m. bef 1734  
children
> b. Tlaltenango, Zac.  She is the 9th generation of our pedigree 
chart.  
>  
> Rafaela CAMPOS m. to Juan de Dios ALVARES.  Rafaela parents are 
Antonio
> CAMPOS and Enfracia CASTANEDA.  Their dau Maira Dimas ALBARES 
Miramontes was
> chris 7 May 1800 we have that doc.
>  
> Juan Manuel de CAMPOS m. to Maria Antonia LUNA 17 Feb 1744 igi.  We 
will
> find and print that doc this April 2005 at the FHL in SLC 
M607139    -
> 1704-1754  443968.  Maria Antonia LUNA is a sister to our Ynes 
Gertrudes
> LUNA.  
> ________________________________

Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman

Peggy,

Tell me more about your Correa and Valenzuela lines.  I didn't see 
anything in your files on these surnames.  I do remember talking to 
you about your Marquez and Raigosa lines and we didn't have a match.

Thanks,
Angie

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Peggy Delgado"  wrote:
> Hello, the names in Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman are as follows:
> Aguirre
> Correa
> Marquez
> Raigosa
> De Abila
> Valenzuela
> Mojarro
> Estrada
> Gonzales
> Hernandez
> Ramos
> Trujillo
> 
> If you or anyone sees a possible name, please visit my file on 
Ranchos under
> Peggy Delgado.
> 
> Thanks!
> :o)
>




Mariano Castañeda and Juana Puente

** Juana de Dios Puente's parents marriage record:

SALVADOR ANTONIO DE LA PUENTE
  Male
Marriages:
  Spouse:  ANTONIA BENITA PELAYO
  Marriage:  19 JUN 1754   Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas, 
Mexico
Messages:
 Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The 
source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage 
date.
Source Information:
 Batch No.:  Dates:  Source Call No.:
 M607141  1754 - 1769  0443969

** Juana's sisters christening record:

GRAVIELA XAVIERA RAMONA PUENTES
  Female
Event(s):
 Christening:  03 APR 1755   Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas, 
Mexico
Parents:
  Father:  SALVADOR PUENTES
  Mother:  ANTONIA VENITA
Messages:
 Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the 
record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by 
the birth or christening date.
Source Information:
 Batch No.:  Dates:  Source Call No.:
 C600896  1745 - 1758  0443804

** Juana's christening record:

JUANA DE DIOS

"dos Reales Cedulas"

It means 2 royal seals--cedula means seal or stamp
(not like a postage stamp).  Marge V.:)
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Los Altos Book


 Author    	  Hernández G., Silviano (Hernández González)
Title   	 El origen de la población alteña / Silviano Hernández.
Edition   	1. ed.
Published   	Guadalajara, Jalisco : Secretaría de Cultura, Jalisco, 2003.
  	
Location   	Perkins Library:
 Stacks | 972.35 H557, O69, 2003
  	
Description   	80 p. ; 23 cm.
Series   	Voz de la tierra
Notes   	Includes bibliographical references (p. 80).
ISBN   	9706243194
OCLC Number   	54439479
Subject   	 Altos de Jalisco (Mexico) -- History.
  	 Altos de Jalisco (Mexico) -- Population -- History.
Other Titles   	 Voz de la tierra colección.
System Number   	003404826

Author+Title Hernández G., Silviano (Hernández González) origen de
la población alteña /




Pinos Zacatecas


I'm not sure this is the same Pinos Zacatecas that one of the group
members is researching, but just in case:


Author :  	 Acosta Gómez, Ricardo.
Title : 	La nueva Toledo (Pinos, Zac.) / Ricardo Acosta Gómez.

Published : San Luis Potosí,[México?] : Academia de Historia Potosina,
1981.

	
Locations/Orders : 	Availability

Location : Widener Harvard Depository F1391.P48 A65 1981 [Consult Circ.
Desk for HN7HFB] Holdings Availability

	
Description : 	42 p. : ill. ; 24 cm.
Series : 	Serie Cuadernos ; 75
Notes : 	Cover title.
Notes : 	Includes bibliographical references (p. 42)
Subject : 	Pinos (Zacatecas, Mexico) -- History.
Keyword Subject : 	la94 02
Other Titles : 	Biblioteca de historia potosina. Serie Cuadernos ; 75.
HOLLIS Number : 	002874508





"dos Reales Cedulas"

color=#0000ff size=2>Looking in the  Merriam-Webster's Spanish English
Dictionary, I would guess  "Two Royal Documents".   That the
extent of my Spanish.

color=#0000ff size=2> 

color=#0000ff size=2> 

color=#0000ff size=2>Kitty





From: Joseph Puentes [mailto:makas@...r.com]

Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 6:25 AM
To: LosRanchos;
Ciudad_Juarez@yahoogroups.com; makas@...; makas_nc
Subject:
[ranchos] "dos Reales Cedulas"



does anyone know the meaning of  "dos Reales Cedulas"
?

curious minds need to know,

joseph

ps: Enclosed for your
amusement are some pictures of a 1793 1/2 Real
Coin that was used as legal
tender in Mexico though I believe it was
minted in Spain. I paid $30 for it
and the date is a little hard to read
but it has special meaning to me
because it was something from the same
time period that my GGG Twin
*Grandfathers: Thadeo Diaz were born in
Colotlan.

*my paternal
grandparents were 3rd cousins and one came from one twin
and the other from
the other twin.

"dos Reales Cedulas"


does anyone know the meaning of  "dos Reales Cedulas" ?

curious minds need to know,

joseph

ps: Enclosed for your amusement are some pictures of a 1793 1/2 Real
Coin that was used as legal tender in Mexico though I believe it was
minted in Spain. I paid $30 for it and the date is a little hard to read
but it has special meaning to me because it was something from the same
time period that my GGG Twin *Grandfathers: Thadeo Diaz were born in
Colotlan.


*my paternal grandparents were 3rd cousins and one came from one twin
and the other from the other twin.

JPEG image

JPEG image

JPEG image

Diego Castañeda





aajay1073 wrote:

Helyn,

Here is the information that I have for Diego Castaneda:

1. Diego de los Santos CASTANEDA
  sp: Maria Xacinta DE LLAMAS (m.29 Jun 1752)
  2. Maria Bacilia CASTANEDA LLAMAS (c.29 Jun 1753-Tlaltenango,Zac)
    sp: Antonio Vitor ... (m.17 Oct 1778)
  2. Antonio Miguel CASTANEDA LLAMAS (c.17 Aug 1755-Tlaltenango,Zac)
  2. Antonio Ermeregildo CASTANEDA
    sp: Maria Francisca COVARRUBIAS VALENZUELA (c.9 Mar 1758-
Colotlan,Jalisco;m.14 May 1777)
  2. Josseph Mariano de Guadalupe CASTANEDA LLAMAS (c.30 Jul 1759-
Tlaltenango,Zac)
    sp: Juana de Dios PUENTE (m.2 Jan 1777)

Do you know who her parents were?



joseph


    sp: Maria San Juana CORTES
  2. Juana Maria Rozalia CASTANEDA LLAMAS (c.6 Jan 1762-
Tlaltenango,Zac)
  2. Josseph Rafael CASTANEDA LLAMAS (c.26 May 1765-Tlaltenango,Zac)
    sp: Maria Josepha Bartola COVARRUBIAS VALENZUELA (c.4 Sep 1766-
Totatiche,Jalisco;m.8 Feb 1786)

I don't have a Marcos Castaneda but I haven't fully researched this

Diego Castañeda

Helyn,

Here is the information that I have for Diego Castaneda:

1. Diego de los Santos CASTANEDA
  sp: Maria Xacinta DE LLAMAS (m.29 Jun 1752)
  2. Maria Bacilia CASTANEDA LLAMAS (c.29 Jun 1753-Tlaltenango,Zac)
    sp: Antonio Vitor ... (m.17 Oct 1778)
  2. Antonio Miguel CASTANEDA LLAMAS (c.17 Aug 1755-Tlaltenango,Zac)
  2. Antonio Ermeregildo CASTANEDA
    sp: Maria Francisca COVARRUBIAS VALENZUELA (c.9 Mar 1758-
Colotlan,Jalisco;m.14 May 1777)
  2. Josseph Mariano de Guadalupe CASTANEDA LLAMAS (c.30 Jul 1759-
Tlaltenango,Zac)
    sp: Juana de Dios PUENTE (m.2 Jan 1777)
    sp: Maria San Juana CORTES
  2. Juana Maria Rozalia CASTANEDA LLAMAS (c.6 Jan 1762-
Tlaltenango,Zac)
  2. Josseph Rafael CASTANEDA LLAMAS (c.26 May 1765-Tlaltenango,Zac)
    sp: Maria Josepha Bartola COVARRUBIAS VALENZUELA (c.4 Sep 1766-
Totatiche,Jalisco;m.8 Feb 1786)

I don't have a Marcos Castaneda but I haven't fully researched this 
family.  I descend from Diego's brother, Juan de Santiago Castaneda 
and

Valenzuela surname

Hello Peggy:

I went to your files to check the "Valenzuela" surname you posted but 
couldn't find it in any of your files?  I have Valenzuela in my 
ancestral files. Let me know the names and I will check them with 
mine. 

Regards,
Carol Lester