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Hello Irma:

Sounds like cruel and unusual punishment to me, but who knows some people's reasoning for some things?!  

Martin Del Campos?...Where is he from and when was he born and where? Give me some feedback..I come from a very LONG line of "Campos"!!

By the way, Joseph is working on putting my file together for the group to view.  It should be available before long.  You will see I wasn't KIDDING about my long line!!
REgards,
CarolLester (NanaCarolL@...)

Hello,

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Great! I found names of the ranches outside of Jerez.

Thanks.

Alberto.
--- Joseph Puentes  wrote:

> 
> Thanks to Lorenzo Cuesta for this URL: 
> http://www.travelpost.com
> 
> just zoom in and you get a fairly good detail map of
> the ranchos around 
> the main pueblos for your area.
> 
> joseph
> 
> 
> 



	
		
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Thanks to Lorenzo Cuesta for this URL:  http://www.travelpost.com

just zoom in and you get a fairly good detail map of the ranchos around
the main pueblos for your area.

joseph

Hello Jonathan,

Thanks for your insight about this matter.  

Do you have an idea what kind of changes are going to be made in the 
extraction program in SLC?  Are things not moving along fast enough 
or something?

Victor

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "mexicanfhr"  wrote:
> 
> There are a lot of films, that are still waiting to be extracted. 
> Also, there alot of batch numbers, that are not on the Parish and
> Vital Records list.
> 
> I am aware, that there are people, who have gotten permission, from
> Salt Lake, to extract all the records, from a certain area.  I would
> assume, that one needs to contact the Extraction Deptment, in Salt
> Lake.  And from, what I've heard lately, there is going to be some
> changes, in the extraction program, later on this year.
> 
> thanks,
> Jonathan  
> 

For all of you, who are wanting a copy of the Parish and Vital Records
list, please send me your mailing address.  Because, due to the size
of the file(25 meg),  I am going to just burn a CD, with the Parish
and Vital Records list and other Mexican genealogical information,
that I've collected over the years.  And send it, to those who want a
copy.

Thanks,
Jonathan

jonathan@...

There are a lot of films, that are still waiting to be extracted. 
Also, there alot of batch numbers, that are not on the Parish and
Vital Records list.

I am aware, that there are people, who have gotten permission, from
Salt Lake, to extract all the records, from a certain area.  I would
assume, that one needs to contact the Extraction Deptment, in Salt
Lake.  And from, what I've heard lately, there is going to be some
changes, in the extraction program, later on this year.

thanks,
Jonathan  


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:
> Well I'm thinking about it and I'm taking this discussion to the
group. . .
> 
> oh absolutely I understand what you are asking now. Yes yes it takes 
> volunteers to transscribe the info off of the films to then input into 
> the IGI and other databases. When it comes down to it I'm sure that
only 
> a very small % of the films available are online. If you want Valpariso 
> maybe you should call SLC and ask them about it.

Joseph:



Have you checked with the Archives in Mexico City?  Also, you may be able to find them in the church records.



Mickey

Joseph:



I went to Sevilla and also went to the Archivo.  You just do not walk in.  You need letters, pictures.....then you will get a card which will allow you in....

I was looking for census records....they were in the Guadalajara Archives.....they can be obtained in Mexico City....I got the 1777 Durango Census from Archivo de las Indias....



Mickey

Mr. Serrros,

I used to know a Bobby Serros (PhD, worked in Northridge CSU) and his brother George.  Are you by any chance related?  I grew up in Oxnard, CA.

David Delgado

-----Original Message-----
From: Edward Serros 
Sent: Mar 1, 2005 9:16 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Poll results for ranchos

I totally agree with Mr. Duarte. I understand the importance of
documentation but I believe for our purposes that communication is of utmost
importance, all things considered---availability of computers and software,
as well as understanding of genealogy procedures.

Those that have learned to search and document can teach those who follow.
We need more people, not less.

Respectfully,

Edward Serros


On 3/1/05 7:20 PM, "Alberto Duarte"  wrote:

> Less strict.
> 
> I believe we could get more members, and more
> information, if we were less strict on membership.
> 
> Alberto.
> 
> --- Joseph Puentes  wrote:
> 
>> > well the

I totally agree with Mr. Duarte. I understand the importance of documentation but I believe for our purposes that communication is of utmost importance, all things considered---availability of computers and software, as well as understanding of genealogy procedures.



Those that have learned to search and document can teach those who follow. We need more people, not less.



Respectfully,



Edward Serros





On 3/1/05 7:20 PM, "Alberto Duarte" wrote:

Less strict.



I believe we could get more members, and more

information, if we were less strict on membership.



Alberto.



--- Joseph Puentes wrote:



> well the percentage of members needed to make this a

> valid vote didn't

> vote so I'm leaving things as they are. maybe next

> year I'll do another

> poll and see if the group opinion is strong enough

> to influence enough

> members to vote one way or another.

>

> joseph

>

> ranchos@yahoogroups.com wrote:

>

>

Less strict.

I believe we could get more members, and more
information, if we were less strict on membership.

Alberto.

--- Joseph Puentes  wrote:

> well the percentage of members needed to make this a
> valid vote didn't 
> vote so I'm leaving things as they are. maybe next
> year I'll do another 
> poll and see if the group opinion is strong enough
> to influence enough 
> members to vote one way or another.
> 
> joseph
> 
> ranchos@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> 
> >The following ranchos poll is now closed.  Here are
> the 
> >final results: 
> >
> >
> >POLL QUESTION: You can only vote if you have
> already
> >submitted your genealogy, but even if
> >you haven't you can still influence by
> >giving your opinion via an email to the
> >group (freedom of speech).
> >
> >Question: Should the requirements for
> >being a member of Ranchos be More Strict
> >(have your genealogy in hand to submit
> >before being accepted into the group);
> >the same as now; or less Strict?
> > 
> >I

a cousin of mine told me his parents are in Spain on vacation and if I
could think of any family history sources they could pick up in Madrid
or Barcelona. I told him to have them swing by Sevilla to the Archivo de
Indias to get me some Padrones from the Jerez/Colotlan area that are in
that Archive.

So I'm wondering do any of you all know of any archives in Madrid or
Barcelona that possibly would have information on Mexico? I'm sure there
are a lot of sources but I'm so lacking for that specific knowledge I'm
coming to you.

thanks,

joseph

Hey Joseph, I would say I am almost a huerfano. Another member, Angel 
Cervantes, and I both have Cervantes ancestors from Zacoalco, 
Jalisco, but it doesn't appear to be a connection, at least back to 
the 1700's. I saw one group member researching her ancestors from 
Atenguillo/Guachinango/Mascota. My Curiel line is from that area, but 
unfortunately (or I'd say fortunately), there's lots of Curiel 
families in that region.

Other than Angel, and the other member whose name I don't recall, I 
am a huerfano. You see, most of my ancestors are from the southern 
municipios of Jalisco: Tlajomulco, Chapala, Zacoalco, Techaluta, 
Sayula, Amacueca. One line, as I said, is from Atenguillo(If you 
don't know where this is, it is close to Talpa, where many people 
visit la virgen). I noticed that almost everybody on this group 
researching Jalisco is focused on los Altos. So far, I have only one 
line of ancestors from los Altos (Lagos), but haven't researched a 
lot on this line.

On the

well the percentage of members needed to make this a valid vote didn't
vote so I'm leaving things as they are. maybe next year I'll do another
poll and see if the group opinion is strong enough to influence enough
members to vote one way or another.

joseph

ranchos@yahoogroups.com wrote:

The following ranchos poll is now closed. Here are the
final results:

POLL QUESTION: You can only vote if you have already
submitted your genealogy, but even if
you haven't you can still influence by
giving your opinion via an email to the
group (freedom of speech).

Question: Should the requirements for
being a member of Ranchos be More Strict
(have your genealogy in hand to submit
before being accepted into the group);
the same as now; or less Strict?

I will not change anything unless 75% of
the permanent members vote and if I get
60% of those voting to vote for one of

the choices.

CHOICES AND RESULTS

- More Strict, 9 votes, 45.00%
- The Same, 8 votes, 40.00%
- Less Strict, 3

The following ranchos poll is now closed.  Here are the 
final results: 


POLL QUESTION: You can only vote if you have already
submitted your genealogy, but even if
you haven't you can still influence by
giving your opinion via an email to the
group (freedom of speech).

Question: Should the requirements for
being a member of Ranchos be More Strict
(have your genealogy in hand to submit
before being accepted into the group);
the same as now; or less Strict?
 
I will not change anything unless 75% of
the permanent members vote and if I get
60% of those voting to vote for one of
the choices.  

CHOICES AND RESULTS
- More Strict, 9 votes, 45.00%  
- The Same, 8 votes, 40.00%  
- Less Strict, 3 votes, 15.00%  
- Other, 0 votes, 0.00%  



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Are there any Huerfanos in the group. . .are there any orphans that
don't have others members researching the same general area as you are
researching in Jalisco, Zacatecas or Aguascalientes? Well if you want to
invite researchers to Ranchos that are researching your specific area
let me know and I'll give you ideas.

I just went to rootsweb and did a geneal search of all the message
boards for those that are researching the Valparaiso, Zacatecas area. I
searched the first 26 pages and found 15 individuals. I then typed their
names into an email and send them an invitation to consider joining the
group. naturally if they are not serious researchers I won't let them
into the group. Of those 15 email addresses 4 were invalid, but lets see
if maybe 1 or 2 of the others might not find a serious researcher.

I said all that only to say that if you are the only one looking in your
area that is a way to find others to join you in your search. . .spend
some time on rootsweb