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Linda,

Thank you so much for all your work in sharing the Jerez records.

Because of my slow dial-up, I can't receive them through e-mail, but I am so glad that you have posted them to WorldConnect.

Recently, I broke down a brick wall on research I have been doing for a friend whose ancestors came from Jerez, as did my father's. I finally found a birth record for her grandfather in the Family Search Pilot which gave me his parents' names, and from there I went to your files in WorldConnect and I was able to find the rest of his ancestors going back to the early 1700s, including family groups. How you manage to do that is astounding.

I hope you know how many people you have helped, and helped me to help, because of your diligence.

Gratefully,

Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA

Hi everybody i just wander if any one has for sale the books Retonos de espana or know were to buy them,thanks.

Hola a todos quisiera saver si alguien en el grupo tiene los libros Retonos de espana en venta o save donde comprarlos. gracias.

Un saludo cordial.

luis M Gonzalez.

I justed wanted to add to the group that I have used Google books for my research. I have Googled people and in fact I've been Googled. Like any search engine it is always best to tailor your search using quote marks. It filters out the junk. While working on my last project I found that my great-great grandfather converted to the Presbyterian religion and was the first church elder in Irwindale, California around 1900. I had found OLD Presbyterian journals in Google books with articles about my g-g grandfather and pictures of the rock church, which still stands to this day.

Google books is always worth a try and if you can't view the book online, at least you have the book information and try to order it on interlibrary loan through the local county library.

Rose Hardy
Fresno, CA

I am looking to buy a copy of La Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara by Luz Montejano Hilton but George Farias' bookstore (Borderlands Books) no longer has it available and I cannot seem to find it anywhere.

Does anyone have any information as to how I can obtain a copy?

Good Evening,

Does anyone have any information on Diego Machado Rengel born in Fresnillo, Zacatecas about 1626. His parents were Capitan Hernando Machado and Maria Bernal. Diego was married to Maria Prado Carbajal about 1645 and died in Hidalgo del Parral, Chihuahua on the 26th of August 1675.

Would appreciate only information. Thank you.

Carlos Yturralde

Thanks----Gloria Lopez

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Today's Topics:

1. Jerez Zacatecas research (longsjourney@yahoo.com)
2. Re: Jerez Zacatecas research (RAUL LUNA)
3. Jerez Zacatecas research (Lester Alvarado)
4. Re: Jerez Zacatecas research (Sylvia Corona)
5. Jerez Zacatecas (John Gonzalez)
6. Re: Jerez Zacatecas research (Daniel Briones)
7. Any help with Ayo El Chico? (Ayotl?n) (mendezdelcamino@live.com)
8. Re: Any help with Ayo El Chico? (Ayotl?n) (patricia burton)
9. Re: Jerez Zacatecas research (Raymond Medrano)
10. Re: Jerez Zacatecas research (egreyes@aol.com)
11. Re: Jerez Zacatecas research (Erlinda Castanon-Long)
12. Re: Jerez Zacatecas research (Barbara Chedester)

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Hi all I have this couple Felipe Navarro (ca. 1730) Ma. Rosalía de Guzmán (ca. 1735) who had Ma. San Juan baptized 6 jul 1763 who married Juan de Aceves? Does anyonehave info on this people who have focused on Ayo Elchico or its surroundsings Arandas, Tepatitlán, La Barca etc..? Were talking from 1730 or so to the late 1700's with this family? Many thanks? -Daniel Camino

Hola de nuevo y gracias por su paciencia para conmigo. Quiero agradecerte Irma por tu informacion. Y bueno platicarte que tu mama y mi papa son primos hermanos mi papa es hijo de Ygnacio Gtz. Que era medio hermano de tu Abuelo Fernando. Gusto en saludarte. Bueno ahora sobre el asunto de Canuta Padilla, te platico que los datos que yo tengo son de primera mano, Pues no se si alguna ves supiste que nuestro bisabuelo Benigno Gtz, Escribio un libro que es en realidad un diario, al que llamo Libro de las edades de Benigno Gtz Presentes y antepasados. Donde comienza diciendo que el nacio el 13 e febrero de 1842 y fue bautizado en san juan de los lagos. Enseguida da la fecha en que se caso con su Primer esposa Emeteria Gtz. Que fue en 1866 en san juan de los Lagos. Continuando con el nombre de sus hijos, fecha de nacimiento, Padrinos de bautizo y confirmacion. Y finalmente en algunos da el nombre de con quien se casaron. Enseguida da los datos de otras familias que eran parientes de Benigno gtz, y otros eran sus propios compadres y otros sus propios hermanos. Despues narra que su esposa emiteria murio en el año 1890 por labor de parto. La acta de defuncion esta en jalos. Y despues de esto vuelve a casarse en 1892 con su segunda esposa Maria Isabel Gtz que es tu bisabuela, volvindo a repetir los mismos datos sobre sus siguientes hijos con Isabel como lo hizo con Su primer esposa Emeteria. Nombre del hijo fecha de nacimiento y padrinos de bautizo.

Hola de nuevo y gracias por la informacion que me han ofrecido puntual, sobre mi bisabuelo benigno gutierez padilla. Ahora mi duda es con respecto a la madre de el. Canuta Padilla Gallo. Pues segun apuntes de Irma Lucero Gomes ella nacio en 1821 en rancho el Aguila perteneciente a san juan de los lagos. lo cual es correcto pero segun estos el Padre era Atanacio Padilla y Francisca Gallo la madre. Pero cuando caso con Jose Ana Gutierrez en 1839 en Jalos, Se dice que se llamaba Antonio Padilla y no Atanacio. Y en su acta de defuncion de Canuta Padilla que es en 1897 en Jalos. Tambien dice que el padre era Antonio Padilla. En fin acaso tendria el nombre combinado como Antonio Atanacio Padilla. Bueno gracias por su ayuda en este asunto.

Hola saludos a todos los miembros de este grupo tan importante en genealogia. mi bisabuelo fue benigno gutierrez padilla de san juan de los lagos. el cual nacio el 13 de febrero de 1842. pero en los apuntes de lucero gomes aparece que era de 13 de febrero de 1848. lo cual me gustaria aclarar pues tal ves fue algun error al escribir la fecha aqui en su genealogia. Saludos y gracias.

 
I have a paternal grandfather (Andres A. Romo) that is from Teocaltiche, Jalisco. I have a maternal grandmother (Teresa Ante Medellin) from Ojuelos, Jalisco.
 
The line from Andres Romo - his father was Claro Romo (married to Crisanta Aguilera)_
Claro Romo - father was Don Bernabe Romo (married to Maria de Jesus Moran Aguilera)
Don Barnabe Romo - father was Don  Ygnacio Romo (married to Dona Maria de Jesus Dias)
 
Other names from Teocaltiche area: Qurinio Aguilera, Mucia Fuentes, Ruperto Moran, Emeteria Aguilera, Jose Maria Aguilera, Mariana Palos, Tomas Fuentes, Tomasa Cardenal.
This is as far as I get in the LDS records. I believe that many used different surnames of earlier ancestors, very confusing.
 
In Ojuelos, Jalisco I have my grandmother Maria Teresa Ante, her father was Antonio Ante Aguilar, his father was Juan Ante Cerbantes, his father was Jose Maria Ante.
 
Maria Teresa Ante's mother was Maria D. Rodrgiuez, her father was Roque Rodriguez, his father was Bernandino Rodriguez. Antonio Ante Aguilar's wife was Maria D. Rodriguez. The wife of Roque Rodriguez was Concepcion Nunez. The wife of Bernandino Rodriguez was Ygnacia Baes. The wife of Rafael Nunez was Marianta Almaguer.
 
The wife of Juan Ante Cerbantes was Salome Lechuga. The Wife of Jose Maria Ante was Maria D. Cerbantes. The wife of Francisco Aguilar was Elva Juana Lechuga. Elva Juana Lechuga lived in what became Pharr, Texas before the Texas Revolution of 1836.She moved back to Mexico after Texas became a Republic. Her daughter, Salome Lechuga was born in 1840 in San Cristobal, Jalisco and died in 1899 at Ojuelos, Jalisco. This is as far as I have gotten.
 
Rolando M. Romo
 

I was so encouraged by a posting that others may be visiting the research center in June that I made travel arrangements and reservations for June 17 thru 20.  I am a novice to geneology and would like to be prepared for the visit.  My brother is traveling from Los Angeles and I will be traveling from Houston.  We would like to meet anyone in the group that will be in SLC on any of those dates for some tips and guidance in research of Delgadillo, Prieto and Medrano in Zacatecas and Aguascalientes.  Suggestions for research preparation are most welcome. Raymond Medrano

Por este medio quisiera informarle al grupo de Nuestros Ranchos que estoy en
el proceso de agregar nuevos clientes/proyectos y me presento formalmente:

Soy consultor de investigaciones genealógicas y mi nombre es Eduardo H.
Seoane. Como consultor he ayudado a personas con ancestros en México,
Guatemala, España, Costa Rica, Ecuador, Colombia, Argentina, Nicaragua,
Honduras, Portugal, Brasil, USA, Puerto Rico, y muchos otros países. También
enseño clases de vez en cuando. Mis padres son nativos de Puebla, México y
cuento con más de 17 años trabajando con registros genealógicos. Soy
bilingüe y vivo a trece (13) minutos de la biblioteca de Historia Familiar
en Lago Salado (Salt Lake City), Utah, U.S.A. Por eso eh tenido la facilidad
de ayudar al grupo con algunas de sus preguntas y continuare ayudando al
grupo en cuanto pueda.

Agradezco la oportunidad de ser miembro de Nuestros Ranchos. Verdaderamente
es una fuente fenomenal para obtener ayuda con la genealogía. Algunos
genealogistas profesionales piensan que no deben ayudar a las personas en
grupos como este porque les limita el trabajo, yo no pienso así. A lo
contrario, ayudando a las personas en nada nos va a limitar el trabajo que
tenemos. Solo abre las puertas a preguntas más difíciles que nos ayudan a
brindar un mejor servicio.

Para aquellos que necesitan de mis servicios me pueden contactar
directamente a mi correo electrónico EduardoHSeoane@gmail.com .

Saludos desde Utah,
Eduardo H Seoane, su servidor.

By this means I would like to inform the Nuestros Ranchos group that I am in
the process of taking on new clients / projects and I am formally
introducing myself

Buenas noches, tengo muchas dudas y a ver si pueden ayudarme.

Jose Felix Macias Hernandez
Nacio en El Salitre, Zacatecas
Padre Miguel Macias.
Madre Cristina Hernandez
22 de nov 1827 lo bautizaron en Nochistlan, Zacatecas
batch C606238 dates 1826-1828

(el es mi bisabuelo), no se que paso con el apellido, ya que uno de sus
hermanos lo tengo captado como Bernardino de acuerdo a mis familiares, aqui
sale como Francisco (batch), pero sale con el apellido Muñoz, tengo el acta
de
nacimiento original de Jose Felix, que es Macias y aqui sale como Macias
pero tambien cuando se caso sale como Muñoz. Nicolasa se caso con dos
hermanos, de acuerdo a mis familiares a Bernardino lo mataron en la
revolucion o en las guerras y Jose Felix se caso con con la viuda de
Bernardino o Francisco ....

Francisco Muñoz se caso con Nicolasa Ramos
Se casaron 14 de junio 1068 en Mascota Jalisco.
Tuvieron dos hijos
Batch M602572 dates 1864 - 1885

Felix Muñoz se caso con Nicolasa Ramos
Se casaron 15 de mayo 1875 en Mascota Jalisco
Tuvieron 3 hijas y un hijo, Jose Edwiges Muñoz que es mi abuelo.

En el acta de bautismo original de Jose Felix dice
Abuelo paterno
Joaquin Macias se caso con Juana Muños: Fechas??

Padres
Miguel Macias se caso con Cristina Hernandez Fechas??

Mi pregunta es
Despues de esta generacion el apellido ya es Muñoz y no Macias....que fue lo
que paso?
De acuerdo a su experiencia como es que se cambio el apellido.
Como le hago para encontrar la de mas descendencias en fechas de Joaquin,
de Miguel, he encontrado hijos de Joaquin Macias y Juana Muños...he
encontrado varios documentos muy interesantes con fechas de casamiento,
hermanos...

Gracias, por su orientacion.

Felix

Does anyone have anyinfo on this couple, I have not been able to order it yet becuae I have 5 films already at the FHC.

Andrea Sánchez de Mendoza
Juan de Villaseñor y Orozco
Marriage: 20 Aug 1724 Jalostotitlán

I do know for a fact that Andrea is related to the same Hurtado de Mendoza. At least two daughters of the Toribio Hernández (Fernández) de Arellano and Isabel Hurtado de Mendoza, used Sánchez de Mendoza. I think Andrea last name had been passed down maternally. So her father may not even be Mendoza at all. The thing is I have not seen any Sánchez de Mendoza after 1670 or so. So it could be a grandmother of hers. I thought it died out but was wrong. Any help will be appreciated! Does anyone have this record or film on loan? -Daniel

Hi all:

I found a couple of my ancestors mentioned in this very well-researched work on the history of Aguascalientes... a very good source for learning about the the social and political issues in that region - very good.

IN SPANISH

http://bibliotecadigital.ilce.edu.mx/sites/estados/libros/aguas/html/ag…

-C

"de esta juris" = from this jurisdiction

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  4. Re: Reyes / Tiscare?o (Jaime R. Alvarado)
  5. Re: Reyes / Tiscare?o (Jaime R. Alvarado)
  6. Re: Reyes / Tiscare?o (Jaime R. Alvarado)
  7. Re: Reyes / Tiscare?o (Bill Figueroa)
  8. Re: Reyes / Tiscare?o (Jorge Luis Ram?rez G?mez)
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Adonde casaron ellos?

Sent from my iPhone

Hello Nuestros Ranchos Members:

I'm planning a trip to SLC in June or July, I can be flexible on the date and am looking for a female travel partner to SLC.

If any nuestros ranchos ladies are interested, please let me know.

Of course any gentlemen can go too, I'm just looking for a roommate and travel buddy but if a group of people go, male or female and meet up there, that would also be great.

If interested, you can contact me off-line at alliecar@pacbell.net.

Regards,
Alicia, San Jose, Calif

Andres de Puga and Sebastiana Delgado Gabai married on May 17 1693 in Aguascalientes. Parents of the groom are not listed. Sebastiana is daughter of Joseph Delgado and Francisca Gabai. Does any one has additional information, specifically what is the relationship of Francisca to Ana Francisca Gabay, wife of Lope Ruiz de Esparza?

Jaime Alvarado

It seems that the trouble people have been having with receiving emails
is due to Hotmail/MSN/Live.com putting a block on our Internet Service
Provider - Dreamhost. The message that came to me is that they are
trying to get them to lift the block but that it could take "days or
even weeks". So if you can hold on for awhile please read the email
online at nuestrosranchos.org if not and you have a gmail or yahoo
address or another address send it to me with your username and I'll
change your address in the system.

Sorry for the trouble this has caused,

joseph

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http://h2opodcast.com (Environmental Podcast)
http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)

Hi, Everyone:

I wish to remain a member of Nuestros Ranchos, but I need to take a break
from being an active participant. I am just taking on a new committment, a
big, long term project that is very, very important to me, and need to
devote my thoughts and energy to that for a time until I get the swing of
things with that. While I don't contribute much to begin with, I will not
be contributing anything for a time. I will continue to keep up with
reading the emails, but need to set aside my own participation.

I hope that this will not affect the viability of the group in any way, but
it is what I need to do at this time.

Thank-you for your understanding.
Corrine Ardoin
Santa Maria, California

Problema con el correo.

Aparentemente el problema que han tenido algunos de los miembros, de no recibir el correo electronico, se debe a que los servicios de Hotmail/MSN/Live.com ha obstruido o bloqueado a nuestro proveedor de servicio de internet, Dreamhost.

El mensaje que yo he recibido es de que estan tratando de quitar el bloqueo, pero eso se pude llevar " dias o semanas". Si se pueden esperar un tiempo, por favor lean el correo en nuestrosranchos.org. Si tienen un domicilio en Gmail o Yahoo, y si prefieren, mandenmelo junto con el nombre de usuario y yo cambiare el nombre en nuestro systema.

Les pido disculpa por las molestias.

Attentamente;
Joseph Puentes
http://nuestrosranchos.org

Does any one know of a person located in Ojuelso De Jalisco that can help get some records or info over the phone? I need some B-Certificates from early years meaning 1913 and 1889.

Thanks

Thank-you for the many responses. The surname Gonzalez has been both a
blessing, because my family tree has sure grown since I began researching
this line, but it is also a time consuming challenge to stick with it,
because there are so many Gonzalez in microfilms. The microfilm I am
currently viewing is LDS Film Number 1667417 for Huejuquilla El Alto,
Jalisco, the San Diego Parish Records of Baptisms 1833-1875. It is in the
Diocese of Zacatecas.

This particular film has taken me many months to view and I am still going,
because there are so many Gonzalez in it. I asked if anyone had this
surname in their tree, because you would know how voluminous the information
can become with such a surname. The exciting prospect is, that I think I
may have found the area of my first "Rancho," somewhere in this parish.
There is the mission San Diego in Huejuquilla in the Huichol homelands and
the many pueblos, haciendas, and ranchos of this parish. But, only one or
two contain those families I know are my ancestors. The main area
they lived was in Huejuquilla, but some lived on the Rancho de la Muraya and
Rancho de los Limones.

The names I have found in this film have created a whole branch of my family
tree stemming from my great-grandmother Francisca Cabral. Her siblings
were: Virginia, Jesus Maria, Felis, all born in Huejuquilla; Juana, born in
Aguascalientes; Luz, Miguel, Isabel, and Daniel, who, along with Francisca
were born in Guadalajara.

Their parents were Pioquinta Gonzalez and Benigno Cabral. On this film I am
viewing, 1667417, I found Pioquinta's siblings. Pioquinta was born 1834,
then Maximo, Eufemia, and Pasqual. Benigno was from Huejucar.

Pioquinta's mother was Maria Antonia Gonzalez, whom I believe was a Huichol
or, as I think they call themselves, Masrara? Her father was said to be
Ygnacio Figueroa, but he did not claim her at her baptism, so she is merely
an indio, hija natural de Antonia Gonzalez. (And, I have not found any
record of him on this film, so I ask myself if I should even pursuit his
supposed line.)

John Gonzalez, Corrine Ardoin, and others,

In response to your inquiries about Gonzalez ancestries ....

My oldest Conrique ancestor that I have been able to document is that of Don Francisco Conrique (ca. 1720 - ?) who married Doña Maria Juana Ynez Maldonado Lozano (1727 - 1744), of San Juan de Los Lagos, and had a son (my 6G-grandfather) Don Juan Francisco Xavier Conrique (1744 - ?).

I have documented several Gonzalez ancestry branches of my 6G-grandmother Doña Juana Ynez Maldonado Lozano (1727 - 1744):

Four times paternally through ....

1.- .... two different descendent lines from her 5G-grandfather Francisco Gutierrez Rubio (1551 - ?), son of Diego Gonzalez de Hermosillo (? - ?) and Ana Gonzalez Florida; and
2.- .... two different descendent lines from her 6G-grandfather Capitan Don Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo (1495 - ?), son of Alonso de Hermosilla (? -?) and Catalina Gonzalez (?Gavilan?) (? - ?).

.... and twice maternally through ....

1.- her 5G-grandfather Alonso Gonzalez de Ruvalcaba (1545 - ?), son of Mateo de Ruvalcaba (? - ?) and Juana Maria Gonzalez (? - ?).

2.- and, again, Capitan Don Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo through his great granddaughter Teresa Gonzalez de Hermosillo (? - ?) daughter of Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo (1571 - ?) and Maria Muñoz (? - ?).

I hope this is helpful to you, and I would also appreciate any information that would advance my research on any of these lines (most specially that of Don Francisco Conrique (ca. 1720 - ?).

Efrain Conrique
San Diego, California