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After all this conversation, I got really interested about submitting 
my DNA as well as my Tapia DNA through an uncle. Another member and 
possible primo (Angel Cervantes) encouraged me to do it in the past. 
Well, in the next couple months I will probably get several samples 
from different family lines. (As soon as I get the cash for it)

I just have a question, maybe I just need to read Gary Felix's website 
more carefully. Is there a table or something that explains what do 
all those numbers on the tables mean? Also, what is the difference 
between 12, 25 and 37 marker? What does it mean?

Steve.

I've heard "taruga" and "tarada" growing up too.  "Tonta" is another 
synonym.  I have to admit I call my own kids some of those names from 
time to time. Just trying to keep the tradition going...  :)

I wonder if it's because our culture hasn't gotten on the politically 
correct bandwagon? I thought about that when President Fox made that 
statement about our gente taking jobs "that even Blacks won't take". 
The Mexican response to the American one was that it wasn't meant to 
offend. Understanding our cultura the way I understand it I knew that 
to be true. However, Fox was criticized because; as some pointed out, 
he was educated here in the States and should've known better.

Maria

p.s. Another word that I remember hearing is "vaquetón".  This one 
means rascal or something along those lines.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "John Gonzalez" 1gnzlz@v...> wrote:
> I've heard "tarugo"  and "tarado".  Tarugo as in "como eres 
tarugo"   Not being very smart,  almost like "como eres

Joseph,

You are probably right.  It must be the 12 marker.  I was speaking 
off the top of my head and probably got it wrong. He did it on his 
own, before Gary Felix had anything posted about it on his website.

Well, I hesitate putting out there in a public website without 
getting his permission. I thought it would be okay to post it here 
because this is a smaller, more private group. Maybe I'll mention it 
to him again.

He might be more apt to posting it if Gary invites him to join. It 
won't be his pesky sister telling him what to do. ;)

Maria

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:
> 
> 
> readysetgo95814 wrote:
> 
> >I've been following the discussion on the DNA testing with much 
> >interest. My brother did the 9 marker test, but did not post his 
> >results on Gary Felix's page.
> >
> did he do it thru the Felix study or just on his own? I haven't 
heard of 
> the 9 marker test. Was this awhile back? I thought that 12 was 
minimum, 
> but

readysetgo95814 wrote:

I've been following the discussion on the DNA testing with much
interest. My brother did the 9 marker test, but did not post his
results on Gary Felix's page.

did he do it thru the Felix study or just on his own? I haven't heard of
the 9 marker test. Was this awhile back? I thought that 12 was minimum,
but probably my lack of knowledge is showing through.

I did mention it to him, but either he's
not interested or it just slipped his mind. I have a copy of the
results and would be interested in posting the results on this site if
Joseph decides to collect that data.

Well I think it would be better to let Gary Felix know about it and post
it there. I would be willing to post the results in the files area but
truthfully they would be there only to encourage other members to
consider doing their own DNA study. On Gary Felix's site he could guide
you and help with some understanding and other readings to get up to
speed on the subject if you

My wife is from Los Altos, Jalisco, and she uses both
words when she is mad.

Alberto.

--- John Gonzalez 1gnzlz@...> wrote:

> I've heard "tarugo"  and "tarado".  Tarugo as in
> "como eres tarugo"   Not being very smart,  almost
> like "como eres menso".  Tarugo, tarado, and menso
> are used in about the same context.
> I know, I've been called all three at different
> times!
> 
> John 
> 
> 1gnzlz@...
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: latina1955@... 
>   To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 2:26 PM
>   Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: Name Calling
> 
> 
>   "Tarayata" sounds linked to "taragua" which I was
> often called because I was considered lazy when I
> was younger - I simply didn't enjoy doing the
> household chores while my brothers were out playing
> :).  Perhaps the "tara" portion is the relationship
> in a similar base language, which be in this area of
> discussion!
> 
>   Esperanza
> 
> 
>
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Hola Francisco,

Tengo mucho interes en ver tu información genealogica. Yo tengo 
varios ancestros con el apellido Martín del Campo. Mi apellido 
materno es Díaz, pero no se si fué Díaz del Castillo, Díaz de Sandi o 
Díaz Infante. El Díaz mas lejano que tengo en record es José Antonio 
Díaz, nacido entre 1740-1748. Tres de mis abuelos fueron nacidos en 
Los Altos de Jalisco. Te invito a que revises mi archivo y dime si 
encuentras alguna rama en común.

Saludos,

María Cortez

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Francisco Martin 
 wrote:
> Hola Joseph.
>  
>    ya esta casi terminada, fue de gran utilidad la informacion de 
Francisco Hernandez, por cierto te queria preguntar que software, 
utilizan para hacer el arbol genealogico que lo pone en recuadro a 
cada una de las personas. ya que el de Ancestry, no lo pone y solo 
maneja una sola rama a la vez o me podrias informar como hacerle para 
bajarlo y avisrte?
>  
>   Por cierto la semana pasada estuve en Los

I've been following the discussion on the DNA testing with much 
interest. My brother did the 9 marker test, but did not post his 
results on Gary Felix's page.  I did mention it to him, but either he's 
not interested or it just slipped his mind.  I have a copy of the 
results and would be interested in posting the results on this site if 
Joseph decides to collect that data.  I haven't done much research on 
my own regarding this subject, and I am happy to see that we have 
several people in this group with so much knowledge to share.

Maria

p.s. My brother's haplogroup is R1b. Our surname is Sanchez and 3 of 
our grandparents were from the Los Altos de Jalisco area. The 4th 
grandparent was from Tizapan Jalisco (near Lake Chapala).

I wonder if anyone in the group knows the meaning of two words used by my parents to chide us when we were children.  My mother, a Native American-Mexican from New Mexico used to call me "surumata".  My father, who was from Jerez, Zacatecas, used to call me

Hello John,

Try the following instructions: 

"Click Start, Settings, Control Panel, Regional and
Language Options. Click the Language(s) tab. In Win
XP, click Details, then Add. Choose an Input language
(English United States) and a Keyboard Layout
(International English). Use Apply to finish the
process; the Windows installation CD may be needed."

Read the instructions on how to switch or select keyboard layouts.  
You can select also which one you prefer as the default layout.

Let us know if you need any other help!

Victor


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "John Gonzalez" 1gnzlz@v...> wrote:
> Hi:
> 
> I don't know what version of Windows other people are using.  I am 
using Windows XP Home Edition and when I press the Alt+? I get 
nothing, just a pleasent little sound. I tried both Alt keys.
> I am sticking with Alt+168, it hasn't failed me yet!  As far as the 
exclamation symbol is concerned, I just do it the old fashion way: 
Shift +1. 
> 
> 
> John Gonzalez  
> 1gnzlz@v

Esperanza,

Regarding the question addressed to me, my haplotype is indeed listed 
at Gary Felix's web page among the Villarreal surname list.  I have 
several genetic matches or near matches, including your cousin 
Homero, all of whom have been newly rediscovered distant cousins to 
me.  

Our DNA shows the very high likelihood of sharing a common ancestor 
but at 6 generations back so far on my paternal lineage I still 
haven't found where our genealogical branches join, which means that 
it is a little further back into the previous century.  I'm still 
following the paper trail!  One very exciting discovery is that as we 
look deeper into our Nuevo León roots we're finding that they lead 
back to Zacatecas.

Victor

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, latina1955@a... wrote:
>   
> Hi Prima,
> I am curious about your brother's DNA - what was he able to learn.  
In lieu of our possible connection, I would be extremely 
curious....If you look at Gary Felix's chart, I am related to Homero

Emilie,

Those two words are definitely not found in the dictinary of the "Real 
Academia Española".  

I'm familiar with one similar word "zurumbato" or "zurumbata" in its 
feminine gender.  I ignore its true meaning or origin but in the 
context that I remember hearing that adjetive it was always applied to 
someone with a poor head, like stunned or stupid, in the sense of a 
temporary mental numbness.  For example, "andaba bien zurumbato".

This link below shows another example.  Just click and scroll down to 
example 16:

http://www.aaanet.org/sla/jla/wea_13_2_haney_clips.htm

The other word, "tarayata" I really don't remember.

Victor


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Emilie Garcia"  
wrote:
> I wonder if anyone in the group knows the meaning of two words used 
by my parents to chide us when we were children.  My mother, a Native 
American-Mexican from New Mexico used to call me "surumata".  My 
father, who was from Jerez, Zacatecas, used to call me "tarayata

Joseph,

I have done the DNA testing for the lines of my four grandparents. I think it would be 
interesting to have everyone share this information with the rancho group if they feel wish to 
do so. As you know, Gary Felix has a nice review of Y-DNA results on Mexican-American 
males, who are participating in his project via Family Tree DNA, http://members.tripod.com/
~GaryFelix/index63.htm.

Ed

Thanks, Victor, I'll consider this. Marge:)

On Jun 21, 2005, at 9:15 PM, Victor Villarreal wrote:

There's a company that does the DNA tests for free but the results

take a lot of time to be posted on their site, about a year.



The name is Sorensons Molecular Genealogy Foundation:

http://smgf.org/



Or maybe you and other interested relatives can pitch in for a test of

one of your boy cousins?







--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Margarita Vallazza

wrote:

> My father and his brothers are dead and I don't have any brothers and

> forget my boy cousins...son tan tacaños!!!! they'll never pay to get

> the DNA results.  Marge

> On Jun 21, 2005, at 5:17 PM, Alberto Duarte wrote:

>

> > Members and cousins:

> >  It would be very interesting if we all had our dna

> >  results, but I believe we would be very much the same

> >  since we share the same Mexican ancestors and they

> >  also came from the same region of Mexico, Spain,

> >  Portugal.

> >

> >