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Hello, I'm Valerie Cefre, maiden name Garcia (y Guzman), and I'm very excited to join such an incredible group of people dedicated to chronicling the past for our future generations to enjoy! My mother was born in Zacatecas and my father was born in southern California and for most of my life, that's all I really knew about either side of my extended family. Both my parents had difficult childhoods which meant that they generally avoided taking about the past. It wasn't until my paternal grandmother was in her last days that my extended family (her in-laws) came to visit, from Texas! I was surprised to see my great uncles in Wrangler jeans, boots, and cowboy hats. My dad casually said that his father's side was from Corpus Christi as if it were common knowledge. Years later, my husband wanted to work on his family tree and I decided to do my side along with him but I didn't expect to find much since my mother was born in Nochistlán and my dad's maternal side came from Nuevo León. I was very surprised to find that the Mexican civil records and Catholic church records were so detailed and easy to find. By about my 4th generation in, I was hooked. I've been working on my family tree for about 7 years. Pretty much all of my work is on my Ancestry.com tree, I've included the link below and I'm more than happy to send an invite link if needed. I've learned so much while doing this research and I am thrilled to learn from this incredible group. I hope that I can contribute to the collective understanding of how we are all beautifully connected to each other. https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/tree/172539693/family/familyview?c… https://www.nuestrosranchos.org/v.guzman-garcia

Que tal compañeros, quiera saber si alguien tiene de ancestros a Miguel de Avalos casado con Teresa de Báez.

Tuvieron por hijo a

Hello-----I am Jorge Andres Casarez (y Sanchez)

My genealogy education began when my parents shared the names of their parents and grand parents.  

• My mother born in DF/MXCD told me of her grandfather: Victoriano Sanchez Calderon. From Jilotepec, MX. In his family was someone who was Jewish and came from Aragon and Andorra.  
• My Father Andres Casarez was born in Pleasanton, Texas, told me of his father Frumencio Casarez born in Webb County Texas and his father Plutarco Casares who came from and was born in Real de Catorce, San Luis De Potosi, who was married to Felicita Zamorra who was una Huasteca. 
  • The Texas lineage mixes with Esparza of the Alamo and the Huizar who was a surveyor for the Missions in the San Antonio and Justicia at San Jose Mission. 
• And for many years that is all that I knew, then 25 years ago I started.  
•  I am focusing on my Casarez ancestors. I have learned of the 1591 Tlaxcala Migration/Exodus/Quizaliztli of the soldiers and their families sent to Zacatecas and San Luis Potosi; the Crown needed help because of the silver mines and the Chichimecas. 
  • From internet I found that in that 1591 Migration there was a Juan de Caceres y su muger Juana. 
• I hope to learn more about the resources available here and see how I can contribute.
• I want to learn how to store items such as maps and find out if it is possible to show what I have found and maybe add links if possible to good sources. 

I was raised speaking English. I can speak Spanish but sadly, it will soon become clear that English is may first language. I can read it but as in speaking my vocabulary is not bad but not what I want. My writing is a bit worse. But I will read baptisms and maps and I will try to read in Spanish things like Don Quixote or Sor Juana Ines de la Cruz.... and admit it is ridiculously hard. I have memorized the first paragraph of Don Quitote and can't wait to tell family that at that time it was Lantejas not Lentejas and that it was mesmo not mismo as it is now. So I say this because I will admit that below is the product of Mr. Google...

I wish you all the very best and thank you for the membership.....JORGE C....................

Hola-----Soy Jorge Andres Casarez (y Sanchez)

• Mi educación genealógica comenzó cuando mis padres compartían los nombres de sus padres y abuelos.
  • Mi madre nacida en DF/MXCD me contó de su abuelo: Victoriano Sanchez Calderon. De Jilotepec, MX. En su familia había alguien que era judío y vino de Aragón y Andorra.
  • Mi padre Andres Casarez nació en Pleasanton, Texas, me contó de su padre Frumencio Casarez nacido en Webb County Texas y su padre Plutarco Casares que vino y nació en Real de Catorce, San Luis De Potosí, que estaba casado con Felicita Zamorra que era una Huasteca.
    • El linaje de Texas se mezcla con Esparza del Álamo y los Huizar que fue agrimensor de las Misiones en San Antonio y Justicia en la Misión de San José.
  • Y durante muchos años eso fue todo lo que supe, luego hace 25 años comencé.
  • Me estoy enfocando en mis antepasados ​​Casarez. He aprendido de la Migración/Éxodo/Quizaliztli de Tlaxcala de 1591 de los soldados y sus familias enviados a Zacatecas y San Luis Potosí; la Corona necesitaba ayuda debido a las minas de plata y los chichimecas.
    • En Internet encontré que en esa Migración de 1591 había un Juan de Cáceres y su muger Juana.
• Espero aprender más sobre los recursos disponibles aquí y ver cómo puedo contribuir.

Quiero aprender a almacenar elementos como mapas y averiguar si es posible mostrar lo que he encontrado y tal vez agregar enlaces si es posible a buenas fuentes.

Me crié hablando inglés. Puedo hablar español, pero lamentablemente, pronto quedará claro que el inglés es mi primera lengua. Puedo leerlo, pero en cuanto al habla, mi vocabulario no es malo, pero no es lo que quiero. Mi escritura es un poco peor. Pero leeré bautismos y mapas e intentaré leer en español cosas como Don Quijote o Sor Juana Inés de la Cruz... y admito que es ridículamente difícil. Me he aprendido de memoria el primer párrafo de Don Quitote y no veo la hora de contarle a mi familia que en aquel tiempo se llamaba Lantejas y no Lentejas y que era mesmo y no  mismo que ahora. Así que digo esto porque admito que lo que sigue es producto del Señor Google...

Les deseo a todos lo mejor y gracias por ser miembros....JORGE C

Recientemente encontré documentos que me ligan con Antonio Vázquez de Mercado y Rafaela Tomasa de Mota. Desciendo de su hijo Manuel Antonio (n. 1743, Pinos, ZAC), y casado el 13 de junio de 1763 en la hacienda de Espíritu Santo, en la jurisdicción de Pinos. Aparece como español, y casa con la mulata Gertrudis Lucinda, hija de Juan de Dios Cisneros y Micaela Gerónima. Me gustaría saber si tienen información acerca de esta familia en la región de Pinos. He visto que otras ramas de mi familia se extienden hacia Ciénega de Mata, Aguascalientes, Asientos, pero hasta ahora no he dado con ninguna coincidencia al respecto de los Vázquez de Mercado.

Adjunto el documento del matrimonio:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-BMCT-C? 

In 1685, Pedro D’Asa, resident of Tacotan, was granted a sitio de ganado mayor con ocho caballerias de tierr

Hello primos,

Does anyone have any idea where I could find property records.  My great grandfather owned a large amount of land in what was Jalisco in the Tepic department.  How did you buy it?  Was it passed to him?  Was it from a Spanish grant?  Anyone have an idea on where I can start?

Best,

AP

Hola prim@s,

This is a group of documents regarding some lands belonging to Andrea Gonzalez Bermejo, wife of Cristobal Barburen, of Teocaltiche: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSDL-6S93-C?i=191&cat=…

The lands were originally granted to Martin Navarro in October 1575 (image 209 btm right); he signed them over to his yerno, Benito de Yslas, as part of the dowry of his daughter, Juana Navarro (image 210 right). She in turn, (beginning on image 195) donated them to Antonio Gonzalez de Rubalcava and to Antonio de Bastidas, husbands of her granddaughters, Juana de Yslas and Magdalena Lozano, respectively, who were daughters of her daughter, Petronila de Yslas, married to Pedro Lozano. The donations were made in 1630, so Juana de Yslas and Magdalena Locano could have been born as late as 1618; you can do the math to figure out the approximate ages of everyone else involved. 
Tantalizing, ain’t it? While it can’t be said with complete certainty that the Martin Navarro spoken of is the same who was married to Petronila de Moctezuma, or that this Benito de Yslas is the same who was father of Magdalena de Lavezaris and Maria de Yslas, the names, places, and dates do appear to match up (on image 210, bottom left, there is even mention of a Francisco Gonzalez and his wife, Maria ? de Yslas, who could be the natural daughter of Benito de Yslas and mestiza half-sister of Magdalena de Lavezaris and Maria de Yslas …). And at least we now know more about the Juana Navarro who died in Teocaltiche on 28 Dec 1651.
What do you think? 
Thanks to Valentina Veor, who shared this document at Rose Wischnewsky’s Descendants of Petronila de Moctezuma Facebook group.

Saludos!
Manny Díez Hermosillo 
 

After nearly a dozen years of looking for clues, I’ve finally broken down a wall that had perplexed me. My 5g grandparents, Eugenio Rufino Galván and María Dolores Fernández, lived in Sierra de Pinos, Zacatecas, during the last quarter of the 18th century. They also lived part of the time in Real de Catorce, Slp. They first appear in the Pinos parish records on 16 Mar 1776, when their children, Juan Joseph and Maria Josefa, were confirmed. Maria Dolores Fernandez died and was buried 26 Feb 1793 in Pinos; according to her burial record, she was originally from Silao, Gto. Eugenio Galván married a second time, to Maria Micaela Cordoba, on 10 Jun 1793, in Real de Catorce. According to his IM, he was about 53 years old (b. 1740) and he was also from Silao. 
I started dredging the archives of Silao looking for any clues. Though I found some Galvan’s and plenty of Fernandez’s, I could still find no sign of Eugenio Rufino, which is a really unique name. So I put this couple on the backburner. Every once in a while, I’d take them out and rummage around: there was another couple living in Pinos named Felipe de Santiago Galvan and Juana Francisca Xaviera Delgado. They were married 14 Aug 1738 in Guanajuato: he was from Silao and was the son of Bartolome Galvan and Josefa de Chagoya. They were old enough to be Eugenio’s parents, but I could find no contact between Eugenio and this family. There was also a Pablo de Jesus Galvan, who married Maria Asencion Lopez on 5 Feb 1758 in Pinos. He was also from Silao, and he was son of Bartolome Galvan and Juana Maria Sanchez. Again, there was no sign of any contact between Eugenio and this family.
Earlier this summer, I really started dredging the parish archives of Silao, looking through the baptisms, marriages and IMs. I found other persons surnamed Galvan, some who were the children of Bartolome Galvan cc Josefa de Chagoya, others who were children of Bartolome Galvan cc Juana Maria Sanchez aka Rivera. I was later able to determine that this Bartolome Galvan was the same person, and that he had married twice - first to Josefa Chagoya, around 1715, and then to Juana Maria Sanchez, around 1725. 
Throughout this, I could still find no record of a Eugenio Rufino Galvan marrying Maria Dolores Fernandez. But I DID find the IM of one Eugenio Rufino Juarez marrying a Maria Dolores Santoyo, dated 30 Oct 1761. He was the son of Bartolome Juarez and Ana Maria Sanchez, and she was hija de padres no conocidos. Could they possibly be my ancestors? Their first names coincided - and like I said, “Eugenio Rufino” is a rare enough name. And what a coincidence, that his parents were named BARTOLOME Juarez and Ana MARIA SANCHEZ: could they be the same BARTOLOME Galvan and Juana MARIA SANCHEZ? 
So I dug deeper and deeper. And finally, I found a record verifying that Bartolome Galvan and Bartolome Juarez were one and the same person: baptized on 7 Jul 1720 was Paula Josefa daughter of Bartolome Galvan and Josefa de Chagoya; when Paula Josefa married on 1 Aug 1735, she used the surname “Juarez” and she named her parents as Bartolome Juarez and Josefa de Chagoya! With this new information, I found more records, children of Bartolome Juarez and his two wives, finally hitting pay dirt with the baptism of Eugenio Rufino, hijo de Bartolome Juarez y de Juana Maria, 16 Sep 1742 - ¡GOL! ¡GOL! ¡GOL! ¡GOL! I even found the baptism records of the aforementioned Juan Joseph “Juarez” (b. 4 Feb 1762) and Maria Josefa “Juarez” (b 16 Jun 1764), both in Silao.

Just goes to show you: perseverance + patience + hard work = results!

The children of Bartolome Juarez aka Galvan (d. 14 Sep 1759, Silao Gto) cc Josefa de Chagoya (d. 6 Jun 1724, Silao Gto.

1. Juan Joseph Juarez, m. Marcela Quiteria Santos, 30 Jan 1729, Silao Gto.

2. Felipe de Santiago Galvan Chagoya m. Juana Francisca Xaviera Delgado, 14 Aug 1738, Santa Fe, Guanajuato.

3. Dorotea Gertrudis Juarez Chagoya, b. 20 Feb 1718, Silao Gto; im. Juan Nicolas de Castro y Garnica, 24 Sep 1734, Silao Gto; m2. Celedonio Victorino, 2 Mar 1756, Silao Gto.

4. Paula Josefa Galvan aka Juarez Chagoya, b. 7 Jul 1720, Silao Gto; m. Basilio Victoriano Valdes, 1 Aug 1735, Santa Fe, Guanajuato.

5. Maria Gertrudis de la Cruz Chagoya, b. 23 Sep 1722, Silao Gto. Note: on this record, the father is named as "Bartolome de la Cruz". Though I cant say with complete certainty that he is the same person, I can find no other record of a Josefa de Chagoya married to a Bartolome de la Cruz.  

The children of Bartolome Juarez aka Galvan cc Juana Maria Sanchez aka Rivera

1. Joseph Alberto Juarez Sanchez, b. 10 Apr 1726, Silao Gto; m. Maria Nicolasa de Avalos  
2. Maria Candida Susana Juarez Rivera, b. 25 Sep 1728, , Silao Gto.

3. Pablo de Jesus Galvan Sanchez, m. Maria Asencion Lopez, 5 Feb 1758, Pinos, Zac.

4. Joseph Gabriel Galvan Sanchez, b. 25 Mar 1734, Silao Gto.
5. Dario Tomas Juarez Sanchez, b. 7 Jan 1737, Silao Gto; m. Josefa Joaquina Fernandez, 3 Mar 1778, Silao Gto.

6. Luis Seferino Juarez Sanchez, b. 2 Sep 1739, Silao Gto.

7. Eugenio Rufino Juarez aka Galvan, b. 16 Sep 1742, Silao Gto; im1. Maria Dolores Santoyo aka Fernandez, 30 Oct 1761, Silao Gto; m2. Maria Micaela Cordoba, 10 Jun 1793, Catorce Slp.
8. Juana Apolonia Juarez Rivera, b. 23 Feb 1745, Silao Gto.


The children of Eugenio Rufino Juarez aka Galvan cc Maria Dolores Santoyo aka Fernandez

1.  Juan Joseph Galvan Fernandez, b. 4 Feb 1762, Silao Gto.

2. Maria Josefa Gervasia Galvan Fernandez, b. 1 Jul 1764, Silao Gto; m. Joaquin Gaitan Muñoz

3. Maria de los Reyes Galvan Hernandez, d. 22 Sep 1819, Catorce Slp; m. Francisco Casiano Villanueva Cepeda

4. José de la Luz Galvan Fernandez, m. Jacinta Camacho Salazar, 5 Mar 1807, Catorce Slp.

5. Maria Anna Josefa Mendez Fernandez, m. Antonio Abad del Castillo Aguayo, 26 Apr 1802, Catorce Slp.


I descend from Maria Josefa Galvan, who married Joaquin Gaitan, of Sierra de Pinos, around 1781.

Burial of Maria Dolores Fernandez
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-BM35-B?i=688&wc=MC76-1…
IM de Eugenio Rufino Galvan y Maria Micaela Cordoba
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GGL6-DY?i=44&wc=3PHV-8…
IM de Eugenio Rufino Juarez y Maria de los Dolores Santoyo
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GG5R-479?i=371&wc=3VHJ…
Bautismo de Eugenio Rufino Juarez
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GG2F-KVW?i=124&wc=3VH8…

Saludos!
Manny Díez Hermosillo

Who is this Bernardino de Sandoval who was born approximately in the 1630s? I am not sure if I am reading the documents right, but it seems Jeromino de Sandoval (Magdalena de Lavezares) has a brother name Bernardino.

From the first section of documents, 

1. Jeromino de Sandoval is the son of Catalina Cortes - image 129 of 512
2. Juan and Cristobal de Sandoval are brothers, sons of Jeromino de Sandoval - image 130 of 512

Then from second section of documents,  

3. I believe it says Bernardino de Sandoval is the uncle of Juan de Sandoval - image 325 of 512, left side, third line from the bottom.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSDL-6SH1-F?i=324&cat=278176

From the 1649 padrones, there are 4 Bernardinos present in Nochistlan. 

1. Bernardino de Isla - decreased by 1690
2. Bernardino de Sandoval, son of Nicolas de Sandoval - deceased by 1690.
3. Bernardino de Isla - N
4. Bernardino de Isla - N

Hola prim@s,

In the past couple of years, I’ve been able to accumulate bits and pieces of information regarding the immediate descendants of Cristobal Navarro, which I thought I’d share here.

Soy descendiente de don Domingo Hernández Gamiño y Juana Bravo de Laguna, por lo que he estado investigando a esta familia.

Hi everyone! I have a rather specific question. I am having an insight at my third great grandfather (i hope that's right) because I found that he was born out of wedlock in 1806. The registry literally says "legitimate son (I mean) illegitimate son of...", which is not only hilarious but puzzling. Two years later, in 1808, his parents did get married, however, I didn't find any dispensa, AND the registry does say the mother was a maiden. So I wonder what could've happened. Has anyone come across something similar? I'm guessing if they maybe kept it a secret? Also both parents are rather old; the father was 40 and a widow, and the mother was 30, never married. Being a small town in Nochistlán, it seems a bit off. Thanks in advance for your theories!

Good day,

I trust all are well.  I am searching for the parents of Magdalena Velasco,

Wife of Joseph de Aceves Fernández y Becerra

Mother of Nicolás Aceves y Ruiz de Velasco

(1682 • Ayo El Chico, Jalisco)

Online suggestions indicate her parents were Cristóbal Hernández Gamiño and María de los Ángeles Ruiz de Haro y Velasco.

Would you be so kind as to direct me to sources to aid in my research?

Un cordial saludo,

Sandra Garza Aceves

In the book, "Genealogia de Nochistlan Antiguo Reino de la Nueva Galicia en el Siglo XVII Segun Sus Archivos Parroquiales" I am seeing the term "Moco" and "Moca" throughout and wondering if that is a misspelling of "mozo" and "moza"?  For example, here is an entry from page 104:

Maria Yniguez de Estrada, moca espanola doncella, hija de Lorenzo Mexia . . . (dated 1649 in Nochistlan)

In the 1998 edition of Spanish Colonial Terms (by Ophelia Marquez & Lilian Ramos Navarro Wold), they included the term "Mozo" and "Moza" as follows.  That seems to fit within the context here.  

Does anyone know the referenced term?  Thank you!

Hello Nuestro Primos,

There is a list of notarial documents from Zacatecas on this website that were translated by Jaime Holcombe. One referred to a "testamento" in Zacatecas for a Margarita Tinoco. Does anyone know how to obtain or view the actual document online instead of the summary of it? Thanks.

   I am getting stymied with Jose Jesus Najar(b1760), father Manuel, mom Maria Gertrudis, married Maria de los Dolores 1780 Jalostotitlan.  I am finding multiple surnames for the mother and wife.  If anyone can help me keep moving back I would appreciate it.

Hello, I am looking at a baptism record for a brother of my 5th great grandfather. I have attached the record and also here is the link: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-GYLD-7?view=index&personArk=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3A6D2Z-7KX6&action=view 

The child's name is Joesph Maria Cleofas Ledesma. The entry is the last one (bottom right page). 

The part I need help with is this... After his name it says "espanol de los ???" I don't know what the next word is and I am wondering if it is signifigant. 

Thank you!

Laura

Hello all,

My uncle is celebrating his 97th birthday, we think.  I found his baptismal record.  There is an abbreviation after "cuatro de Julio" i cannot make out.  I believe it stands for "presente pasado" but that wouldn't make sense.  Does it mean last year (1926) or the present year (1927) Anyone have an idea?  It is the second one from the top on the left page.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-MKPQ-P?view=index&personArk=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AD5QP-3DZM&action=view

thank you in advance,

AP

Looking for any information on Pedro de Ledezma married to Isabel de Grado prior to 1524

Hola prim@s,

In this document is my 3rd great grandfather Jose Dolores Jimenez. There is two separate pictures because the document was found on two different pages. Any help would be greatly appreciated! 
 

See Image 1

See Image 2

Hola Beatrice:

Gracias por tus lineas.
Es muy grato saber de ti y de tus esfuerzos y logros, te felicito
muchisimo
por todo eso, y eres inpiracion para mi en mis busquedas genealogicas.

Hello everyone, My name is Cynthia Saucedo & I am a descendant of Juan Zacharias Saucedo Udabe.  I see there are posts on Nuestros Ranchos that are over 10 years old from other descendants of the Saucedo, Udabe, Lopez de la Cerda family line.  If anyone researching this family line is still active on this website I would like to collaborate.  It seems there is a brick wall with the grandparents of Juan Zacharias.  I am researching the Saucedo/Udabe/de la Cerda line from Teocaltiche, Jalisco.  Christoval Saucedo married Feliciana Udabe López de la Cerda around 1711.  There is no marriage record for them.  I have not been able to find any sources with the names of Christoval Saucedo’s parents nor have I been able to find any siblings of Christoval Saucedo. The parents of Feliciana, his wife, are Isidro Udabe & Rosa Manuela Lopez de la Cerda.  There is no marriage record for them however, their children are listed as legitimate children in each of their marriage records.  I have not been able to find death/burial records for Isidro Udabe or Rosa Manuela Lopez de la Cerda. 

The children of Isidro Udabe & Rosa Manuela Lopez de la Cerda are:

Feliciana Udabe López
b. no baptismal record, born between 1690-1698
m. Christoval Saucedo, no marriage record
d. no record, around 1745

Efigenia Udabe
b. baptized August 14, 1714, Nuestra de los Dolores Teocaltiche, Jalisco
m. April 18, 1738, to Francisco Xavier Lares López
d. no record

Joseph Manuel Udabe López
b.  no record
m. September 10, 1730, to Marcel Ruiz de Esparza Delgado
d. April 8, 1771

Diego Toribio Udabe López
b. no reocrd
m. February 16, 1744 to María Theresa Esparza Delgado
d. no record

Domingo Manuel Udabe López
b. no record
m. February 14, 1773 to Maria Micaela Enríquez
d. no record

Getrudis Udabe López
b. no record
m. April 27, 1733 to Juan Cristobal Chavez
d. no record

Juan Victorino Udabe López
b. no record
m. March 3, 1734 to Juana de Jesús Marin de Penaloza
d. no record

Juan de Santa María Udabe López
b. no record
m. April 21, 1736 to María Antonia Carrillo in Aguascalientes

The children of Christobal Saucedo & Feliciana Udabe Lopez are:

Ana Saucedo Udabe
b. March 31, 1711
m. no record
d. no reocrd

Francisco Antonio Saucedo Udabe
b. October 18, 1713
m. no record
d. no record

Ysidro Caietano Saucedo Udabe
b. September 3, 1715 in Cieneguilla, Aguascalientes
m. May 2, 1751 to Antonia Feliciana Yánez Esqueda in Teocaltiche
d. no record

Santiago Saucedo Udabe 
b. around 1719, no record
m. May 13, 1743 to Manuela de la Asención Rovalcava
d. no record, around 1769
*Looks like Santiago & his sister Juana Maria married into the same family (Rovalcava/Robalcaba)

Juan Zacharias Saucedo Udabe
b. June 16, 1721
m. October 23, 1748 to Margarita Ruiz Esqueda
d. no record

Juana Maria Saucedo María Saucedo Udabe
b. March 22, 1726
m. August 28, 1743 to Nicolás Timoteo de Rovalcava
d. September 25, 1774 in Calvillo Aguascalientes
*Looks like Juana Maria & his her brother, Santiago married into the same family (Rovalcava/Robalcaba)

José Antonio Saucedo Udabe
b. no record, about 1730
m. January 28, 1761 to Maria de los Dolores López Lozano in Aguascalientes
d. January 20, 1785 in Aguascalientes

Jose Christobal Saucedo Udabe
b. no record, about 1730
m. November 26, 1753 to Maria Margarita Ornelas
d. no record

Joseph Feliciano Saucedo Udabe
b. July 5, 1733
m. April 23, 1758 to Ana María Francisca Villalpando
d. no record

Francisca Saucedo Udabe
b. no record
m. no record
d. April 1798