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Hi. I’m Gerard Marelle. I posted my genealogy in the files section and you can find my family tree in:
https://gw.geneanet.org/gmarelle?iz=270&lang=fr&i=117&oc=1&type=tree.
Hope you might find something useful.
Regards,
Thank you for sharing. You have some lovely photos in your tree! I love black and white pictures!
Laura
Dear Members,
I received an email today from Michael Araiza, that spurred me to revisit the Araiza-Medina line. He sent me the link to a marriage between Hernando de Arayze (yes, with an “e”) and María de Gusman in 1592, inquiring if it might fit the timeline for the marriage of Fernando de Araiza and María de Guzmán, parents of Juan de Araiza y Medina (d. 1665). My answer is long, but the short answer, is yes, I do indeed think if fits the timeline.
The main problem with this document is that it took place in Mexico City, and we had not previously had any link of the Araizas to Mexico City. So, I started doing some research. PARES yielded nothing, sadly. However, in familysearch and in my own document repository I found a couple things that may help make the connection.
I found the marriage of a Josephe de Arayça to Juana Martínez in 1623, and it turns out, he
Mr. Sales,
I agree with you that this marriage record fits the time line of the Araiza Y Medina Line. Great information from it!!
The marriage does indicate that Hernando Arayze and Maria Guzman are "Vecinos" of the city . Juan De Araiza's Testament says they were Vecinos of Zacatecas .(probably later)
In the past, we did talk about the 1739 ordination investigation of Gabriel Araiza in comparison to the 1664 Testament of Juan De Araiza Y Medina. The will stating they are "Vecinos" of Zacatecas, and the Investigation stating that Juan De Araiza Y Medina was born in "Un Lugar en La Vizcay en los Reinos de Castilla".
Could the ordination investigation be wrong? Could it be possible that Juan de Araiza already have been born at the time of the marriage in 1592?
Also noted in the marriage is a 'Joan De Medina" , I wonder what relation this person had to Hernando and could this person be the contributor to the Araiza Y Medina surname?
Great Stuff!!!
Hola prim@s,
This is the Ejecutoria del pleito de hidalguía filed by Licenciado Diego Hernández de Vergara, dated 12 Jul 1548: http://pares.mcu.es:80/ParesBusquedas20/catalogo/description/5703246
Licenciado Vergara was a 1st-cousin of treasurer & governor Alonso de Estrada, according to the very detailed genealogy given by Estrada’s cousin, Mari Fernández Hidalgo, in the 1585 limpieza of Jorge de Alvarado y Villafañe: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS2D-KSYH?cat=630488
The genealogy given in this document coincides perfectly with that genealogy. It even goes back one more generation, and names Licenciado Vergara’s (and Estrada’s) great-grandfather as Juan Alonso, vecino de Ciudad Real (who apparently received a carta ejecutoria de su hidalguía from King Pedro de Castilla). Here’s what the family tree now looks like:
1st generation: Juan Alonso cc ?
2nd generation: Diego Hernández Hidalgo cc Mari González de Estrada
3rd generation:
a. Diego Hernández Hidalgo “el Mozo” cc
Thank you Manny for sharing as I still had my doubts. I still have the original booklet regarding Alonso Estrada’s genealogy. It is fragile and I am looking to donate to a library, but I haven’t decided which library.
Rick A. Ricci
Hello, I am looking at a baptism record for a brother of my 5th great grandfather. I have attached the record and also here is the link: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-GYLD-7?view=index&personArk=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3A6D2Z-7KX6&action=view
The child's name is Joesph Maria Cleofas Ledesma. The entry is the last one (bottom right page).
The part I need help with is this... After his name it says "espanol de los ???" I don't know what the next word is and I am wondering if it is signifigant.
Thank you!
Laura
used to be Los Sauces
https://mapcarta.com/es/30081588
I appreciate it! You are right. My family has a long history in Tabasco :)
Or “de los Sauces” (of "The Willows") which would’ve been a place name, maybe a hacienda or a ranch or a district.
Saludos,
Manny Díez Hermosillo
My maternal line has stopped with a woman named Nicolasa Carrillo de Sandi, married to Jose Juarez Delgadillo, my 9th great-grandparents. I don’t have an information on their births or marriage, my guess is that they are located in/around Cuquío, Jalisco.
I have arrived to her through my 8th great-grandmother Juana Gertrudis Juarez Carrillo, but I have little information for her.
I do have the marriage of Juana Gertrudis Juarez Carrillo, and Juan Manuel Delgado Pacheco (son of Francisco Delgado Lopez and Rosa Maria Pacheco Nuñez) on 5 June 1724, although much is lost to the large decay on the pages: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-F4YV-9?i=132
I want to continue with research into my maternal line, but in order to do that, I need to find more information on the life of Nicolasa Carrillo de Sandi. If anyone has information or familiarity of anything “Carrillo de Sandi”, or anyone who also has her in their tree, I would very much appreciate it!
Hola Bobby,
Joseph Juarez was baptized 2 Feb 1680 in Nochistlan, he was son of Diego Juarez and Tomasa Delgadillo: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-G1VY-R?i=400&wc=3P98-J…
You can find more info about them here, including a link to a dispensation verifying that Joseph Juarez was the same who married Nicolasa Carrillo: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Ju%C3%A1rez-56
It’s possible that Nicolasa Carrillo was also from Nochistlan, there were various branches of the Carrillo de Sandi living in that area. But I see no record of Joseph and Nicolasa marrying there. There were various branches of the Carrillo de Sandi in Teocaltiche and a couple in Aguascalientes, so check those communities, too. If they married in Teocaltiche, then you’ll be out of luck, since the marriage books are missing for the years they would’ve married.
Good luck!
Manny Díez Hermosillo
La información que dice que nació en 1707 es incorrecta. Según su información matrimonial, Pedro Nolasco tenía unos 25 años cuando se casó en 1738, por lo que nació hacia el 1713. Dice que nació en la estancia de Salitrillo, que estaba en Sierra de Pinos: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-JR1C-V?i=65&wc=3JHB-4WG
Si es tu antepasado, entonces somos primos, ya que su madre era hija de mis antepasados directos, Diego Alonso de Hermosillo y doña Juana de Alderete.
Saludos,
Manny Díez Hermosillo
¿Has revisado la página de Sebatián en sito "Family Search"? (https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/GW1J-SL4) Tal vez haya algunos errores pero este es un buen página para comenzar a revisar documentos. Mira la sección de "Sources." Parece que ya se ha trabajado mucho en esta página. Hay documentos que informan que Sebastian es hijo de Juan Macias Valdez y Juana Dominguez. Sebastian se casó con Juana en 1710. El documento de defunción de Pedro Nolasco estima que nació en 1717 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:684Y-WH3C).
Y lo siento otra vez que mi español es tan terrible :/
Es hijo de Juan Macías cc Juana Hernández Gamiño y Gómez Espejo y Domínguez. Aquí su IM:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DCF9-WZL?i=347&wc=M6QX…
Y de Juana: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-JC5P-1?i=72&wc=SSL3-168
Saludos,
Manny Díez Hermosillo
En la información que me envías se indica matrimonio en 1710, mas sin embargo yo encontre que su hijo Pedro Nolasco Macias Valadez y de Gonzaliez Hermosillo nace en 1707, tendras otra informacion al respecto? muchas gracias
Lo siento porque español es mi segunda lengua pero... es posible que haya estado casado dos veces? Tal vez la primera esposa murió y él se volvió a casar? Si puede encontrar el registro de la boda, el documento a menudo dice si el señor es un viudo y indicará el nobre de la esposa fallecida. Si necesitas ayuda con los registros, por favor dígame el fecha de nacimiento de Sebastian y los nobres de los padres y de las dos esposas y yo puedo revisarlos.
Busco linea Familiar con relacion a Carlos Salas Jaramillo 1805-1833 posible padre Jose Tiburcio Salas 1738-1826 nacido en Villanueva Zacatecas
Seeking any assistance or information on Pedro Jose Montellano or Son Jose Maria Montellano either from Zacatecas or Ojuelos Jalisco, I found information related to Los Pinos or Magueyes Zac. however very limited.
Information I found in Ojuelos Jalisco, Montellano is spelled as Monteyano or Montejano, which could be a typo or possibly how it was spelled during that era.
Any assistance would be appreciated.
I don’t think Pedro Montellano, who was married to Ana Maria de los Santos Castorena, and Pedro Montejano Argote, who married Guadalupe Cirila Camarillo, are the same person. For one thing, though similar, the surnames are different and have different origins.
For them to be the same person, he’d have to have been married first to Ana Maria de los Santos, before 1786, when their daughter Gertrudis was born; according to his marriage information, Pedro Montejano Argote was born around 1780 on Rancho del Maguey and had been living on Rancho de la Jaula, both in the jurisdiction of Pinos. He was 17 and had never been married, nor had he lived anywhere else. So he couldn’t have been the same person who was married to Ana Maria de los Santos. Also, according to their marriage records, Pedro Montellano’s children were mestizos, and their mother, Ana Maria de los Santos, was spanish (white), so Pedro was mixed race, for his children to be mestizos. Pedro Montejano Argote was spanish.
So, I don
Buenos Dias!
I do agree with your observations, I was not completely convinced that Montejano was linked however 2nd set of eyes is confirming not to be.
I'll take your advice and hopefully find other leads with Pedro Montellano in the Guanajuato archives.
I appreciate your knowledge and time with this!
When did your Pedro Jose and Jose Maria live, and who were they married to? I haven’t seen Montellano nor Monteyano in Pinos nor Ojuelos, but I have seen Montejano. Most of the families with that surname living in Pinos during the 1700’s descend from Phelipe Antonio Ramirez Montejano and Paula Francisca Lopez de Avila, who petitioned marriage on 24 Jun 1729 in Pinos. He was born in Mexico City around 1705, son of Antonio Ramirez Montejano and Juana de Torres, and she was daughter of Juan de Avila and Juana de Trujillo. They had about 7 children, born between 1730 and 1750, who ended up living in Pinos, Ojuelos and in San Felipe, Gto. This family originally used the compound surname Ramirez Montejano, but most of their children dropped the “Ramirez” and went with “Montejano.”
I hope you find this useful!
Saludos,
Manny Díez Hermosillo
Gracias for your swift response,
According to the information I gathered, Pedro Jose Montellano "Argote" was married to Ana-Maria De Los Santos Castorena OR Guadalupe Cirila Cmarrillo in Los Pinos in 1797. However lived or spent time in Ojocaliente, Veta Grande, Guadalupe Zacatecas?
Simon Montellano (son of Pedro) (DOB 1792) married to Bruna Perea Perez (1812) in Palmillas zacatecas
Jose Maria Montellano - Perez (1809-1894) and married to Ponciana Martinez .Jose Maria Montellano - Grand Son of Pedro Montellano & Son of Simon,
I did find what you shared in regard to Phelipe (1705) & Paula Francisca De Avila. There is also a Joseph Joachin Montejano (1735) Villa De Reyes, San Luis Potosi married to Juana Ygnacia Argote (1720-1810) who appears to be the parents of Pedro Jose "Montellano" (DOB approx. 1750-60)
Very interesting how last names were dropped, so assuming that Ramirez was paternal and Montejano was maternal? My confusion is the spelling of the surname of Montellano which are in
I believe I have found the resting place of one Francisco Campos Aguinaga. He died in 1915 after a mining accident in Southern Arizona a few years earlier. His civil death states he was put to rest at the Panteón Francés de la Piedad in Mexico City. (The other Panteon Frances was built in the 1940s.)
An acquaintance was able to get photos of the crypt and marker. However the surname on the larger crypt is different. It is marked "Familia Casasola." The marker at the foot of the crypt, "164," is the only indicator, that helped to find Francisco's plot. (I've included photos of the grave site.)
Other than the civil death record I have no other way to verify that this is our guy.
Now it gets interesting.
After help in locating the plot with help from the Mexican Consulate in Texas, and a genealogist in Mexico DF who took photos, the cemetery is now saying that the plot may not have been fully paid for back in the day. (Is this customary?) The family would like to help restore at least
So I was doing my usual researchy thing online looking at struggle lines like Diego de Trevino when I happened up a few older research documents you guys find interesting to add to your stash.
The entomology of the name was fascinating to me so I decided to see what towns they were actually referencing in Spain. So indeed I looked up Temiño, Spain. It is an fact a real town and that is indeed the way it is spelled. It is also the town where the references "Don Alfonso Ruiz de Temirio y Doña Sancha de Velasco". Even in the old research docs the the spelling varies. These are the ancestors that Baltasar Temiño references to prove his noble lineage in Zacatecas.
So while spelling would vary depending on the scribe and their educational and cultural background it is now evident to me that Baltsar Temiño is indeed a Temiño NOT Trevino. Now it could be that the town of Temiño could have old ties to the Condes de Trevino and they are from another branch they however achieved their "grandee
Great Photos!