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Los fundadores de la linea son Macedonia Arellano Alcalá de Gómez (1859–1922) de Santo Cristo Milagroso, Tanhuato de Guerrero, Michoacán y Cenobio Gómez Peña (1860?-1915?) tambien del estado de Michoa
En el caso de los Gómez/Rico aun su identidad es una conjetura: El lugar y tiempo estan correctos, y Atilano es un nombre familiar; pero realmente ni se siquiera si son las personas correctas.
Algunas ramas de la familia estan emparentadas con Pio Pico (el ultimo gobernador mexicano en la Alta California antes de ser apropiado por EEUU, por el lado Verdugo,) y otros de nosotros con su esposa, Maria Ignacia Alvarado (por el lado Collins/Robinson/etc.)
Uno de los topes con que me he encontrado es el apellido de Rico: Aparece una sola vez en la rama Gomez (via el abuelo Carlos Gomez); pero investigando a los Pico me doy cuenta que los Pico tambien provienen de Michoacan.
En un instante de inspiracion, me he preguntado si en algun momento no habra habido una confusion con los nombres Pico y Rico.
Efectivamente los Pico parecen ser mas populares que los Rico en esta area de Mexico.
No se si sea util investigar mas a los Pico de Michoacan, pero ahi se los paso al costo.
Como se podra observar, las ramas de Felipe Perez y Juliana Esparza estan incompletas. Desgraciadamente se me han acabado las pistas, y no me es posible continuarlas.
Hello all:
Hello and welcome German,
I am related to you through your Altos de Jalisco lines. The closest relationships are through the Padilla and De La Torre lines.
Good luck on your research,
Rick A. Ricci
Welcome, there's lots of resources here to help you. Also, plenty of people to assist if you have a specific question.
Paige
Hi members,
My sister did the ancestry dna test.
Three percent of the results show from
Thr Aegean Islands. My sister has some Greek in her genes.
Hola:
Muchos de los marinos que acompañaron las expediciones eran griegos o genoveses, personalmente creo que los Martin (Pinzón) pudieron haber tenido ese origen, yo desciendo de uno de ellos, el capitán Onufrio Martin, que naufragó frente a las costas de Venezuela en 1540. Pero hay otras familias de origen griego como la del conquistador Juan Griego cuya familia pasó a Durango, eran carreteros, otros Griego fueron a Nuevo México, el conquistador Pedro de Rodas fue otro caso, la familia Candía (Sandi en algunos registros), loa Argüello, Argüelles, los Livera.
I found in familysearch.org an online book of the diary of Alarcon that went into Texas in 1718.
Hi Mr. Madera
Thanks for the info and link!
For those with connections to San Antonio, I would to add that you have provided other good info here:
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/24877
in a thread I started about a padron for San Antonio 1735.
Best Regards
Denise Fastrup
Hi Denise,
Yes, There is something interesting here in the census of San Antonio 1718. If you compare this census with the census of San Antonio in 1763 where the population got a little bigger in 1763 but they all have the same surnames of the people of 1718.
I see two of them Joseph Velasquez, Antonio and Agustin Perez. If they are the same ones in my family tree. Velasquez was originally from Xerez.
I found this list of painters of New Spain in case any of you want to look up the art work of these individuals that made paintings of Nueva Espana:
Simón Pereyns (Flemish)
Hi to all Nuestro Rancho members,
Can someone look at this half page document for me and rewrite it clearly so I can see what it says?? It is about my ancestor Blas Madera. Thank you.
Literal transcript without abbreviations plus capital letters. In case you need the other little details besides what Mr. Ricci has mentioned.
Not sure if the brides mother's last name is "peres" or "lares". probably the former.
Blas Madera mestiso originario de Minillas y vesino de esta pheligrecia veinte años a, y viudo de Teresa de Avila cuyo cuerpo se sepulto en esta yglecia tres años a, hijo legitimo de Joseph Madera y de Josepha Velasques, Paresco ante vuestra majestad como mejor aya lugar en dicho. y digo que por quanto tengo ajuntado mi casamiento con Maria Lorensa española de los Sauses y vesina desta pheligrecia seis años a, hija legitima de Sevastian Magaianes y Ephigenia Peres? para poder contraer dicho matrimonio....
This is a marriage record For Blas Madera and María Lorenza. It says that he is a widower and that his parents are Joseph Madera and Josepha Velasquez. It seems that they initially forgot to name the parents of Maria Lorenza (Magdalena or Magallanes)
Rick A. Ricci
In the 23 Sep 1760 Colotlan baptism of Matheo (second from bottom right at https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-F9S3-KX?cc=1874591&wc=3J4B… ), his birth is placed at Hazcata.
Giving it just a quick look, the first thing it comes to my mind is "tlazcala" the "H" kind of resembles the "tl" in the word Colotlan at the beginning of the record, and what it looks like a "t" could also be a "l" at the last syllable. Thus maybe a town of that name within Colotlan? Just a thought on other possibles spellings.
Suddenly every image of the Tlaltenango baptisms 1888-1889 on FamilySearch have blue boxes, outlining and sometimes obscuring the text.
I notice that too, for now I can only think of clicking on any of the indexed person in the bottom on the "image index tab" and it will highlight only that person allowing you to see the rest of the image.
Hopefully they implement a switch for ease of viewing. (unless there is one already, haven't check thoroughly.
Confusion Pico/Rico en Michoacan