I would like to clarify that Antonio De la Cadena does not descend from the Gutierrez Cavalleria. He descends from the Cavalleria family, but does not have Gutierrez in his last name. His Cavalleria ancestors are a couple of generations back. Antonio De Saavedra Guzman and his wife were second cousins through their Estrada lines, and distant cousins through their Cavalleria lines.

Rick A. Ricci

Arias De Saavedra descent throughJosefa Perez Maldonado who married Manuel Lomelin and left many descendants in Los Altos De Villanueva, Nueva Galicia [presently known as Los Altos De Jalisco, Jalisco]. The first section that was compiled by Jose De Meza. This tree is based on “el ARBOL GENEALOGICO Y BLASONES DE LA ILUSTRE CASA DE SAAVEDRA HASTA DON FERNAN DE SAAVEDRA, POR RODRIGO MENDEZ SILVA, CORONISTA GENERAL DE SU MAGESTAD CATOLICA EN ESTOS REINOS DE ESPAÑA, Y MINISTRO DEL SUPREMO CONSEJO DE CASTILLA, 25.9.1653”. I compiled the second section of this line staring from (27.)

Josefa Perez Maldonado is my and my wife’s tenth great-grandmother. This line that I show here goes to my wife’s grandfather, Francisco A. Tostado y Casillas

I still need to review every step to confirm this work. I added a correction as to the ancestry of the Martel as the evidence points not to French royalty as many genealogists claim, but to French Jewish ancestry.
Rick A. Ricci.

1.) FERRANDO

Many years ago a drawing was being passed around as the image of Martin Casillas “el Alarife”. It turns out that the image was really of another one of my ancestors Antonio Saavedra Guzman, an historian and poet. Antonio Saavedra Guzman is the maternal grandfather of Josefa and Angela Perez Maldonado.

https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archivo:El_peregrino_indiano_Texto_impr…

Rick A. Ricci
Source Mygenes2000

I descend from Josefa Perez Maldonado and Manuel Lomelin. Josefa Perez Maldonado is the daughter of Isabel Saavedra Monroy and ? Pérez Maldonado. In the record that I show here it lists her father as Luis Perez Maldonado. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-6D92-M7?i=1069&cc=1874…

I believe that some of the confusion regarding whether the father’s name is Luis or Diego is that there were two “Luis Perez Maldonado”, father and son, and the elder Luis is the son of a Diego Perez Maldonado.

Isabel Saavedra y Monroy is the daughter of Juan Saavedra Guzman who descends from Alonso Estrada el tesorero, (who claimed to be son of King Ferdinand II el catolico) through two of his daughters as again we find endogamy in the family. Juan Saavedra Guzman also descends from King Pedro “el cruel” Rey De Castilla.

There is also some confusion over Isabel Saavedra y Monroy’s mother as her father was married twice. I am unsure as to which wife is her mother though I suspect

This is what I see...

"Manuel Sanchez y Juliana Sepulveda ya finados. Fueron testigos Esteban Treviño y Guadalupe ... mayores de edad y vecinos de esta...firmaron conmigo..."

Sorry, that's as much as I could make out. I hope this helps. Maybe someone else can fill in the blanks.

In general, from my own experience reading through the Tlaltenango films, I've seen far more people classified as mulatos libres than esclavos. But they do exist.

Depending upon what year it was corresponding to the record you submitted, the Balthazar Correa who is named might very well be my Grandmother's first husband's Great Great Grandfather whose name was Miguel Castañeda Correa. Balthazar de los Reyes Correa was married to Maria Magdalena de Avila in Tlaltenango in 1737. I made the following note taken from a baptism where they are referred to as a couple: "Don Baltazar Correa and his wife Doña Maria Magdalena de Avila are named in the baptism of their grandson Lugardo Gonzalez Correa in Tapias, Zacatecas, close to Atolinga, Zacatecas" . Regardless if this is the same Balthazar Correa, slavery as unfortunate as it may be was not uncommon in the region. You'll find many of us share ancestors in the Tlaltenango region who were slaveowners. And you'll also find many who will trace their roots to slaves and thus are part of our heritage.

Other references to slaves are found in many of the older Tlaltenango census lists as well.

Hola-
La siguiente cita es para la partida de matrimonio de Francisco Javier Plascencia con Juana Fabiana de Álcala, quienes casaron el 15 de agosto de 1754, en Jalostotitlán. El es hijo de Antonia Plascencia y padre no conocido y ella hija de don Andrés de Álcala, ya difunto, y María Gómez.
"México, Jalisco, registros parroquiales, 1590-1979," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-XYZ1-T?cc=1874591&wc=3J4P-… : 28 June 2014), Jalostotitlán > Nuestra Señora de la Asunción > Matrimonios 1748-1768 > image 124 of 723; parroquias Católicas, Jalisco (Catholic Church parishes, Jalisco).

El árbol genealógico de Juana Fabiana se encuentra en el siguiente sitio:
https://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/de%20Alcal%C3%A1-Family-Tree-78

Saludos
Austin Pérez

Así es colega, los curas casi siempre notaban en los registros matrimoniales parroquiales si fuesen dispensados y en que grado por consanguinidad o afinidad.

Un saludo,

Daniel Méndez de Torres y Camino

Hi Vanessa,

At WikiTree each person's profile includes "Sources", e.g.:

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Hurtado_de_Mendoza-10

You can find in "Sources" the record of his defunction and a Dispensa showing some blood relationships.

Checking the sources on each profile you can form an opinion about how trustworthy the family tree could be.

Profiles and sources are entered by volunteers as the result of their own resarch.

There is a good chance this is the chiristening record of Pedro:

Name: Pedro Nolasco de la Pas
Event Type: Baptism
Event Date: 25 Feb 1810
Event Place: Nuestra Señora de los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jalisco, Mexico
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 20 Feb 1810
Mother's Name: Agapita de la Pas
Maternal Grandfather's Name: Mariano de la Pas
Maternal Grandmother's Name: Tomaza Flores
GS Film Number: 634027
Digital Folder Number: 004739971
Image Number: 00548

Citing this Record:
México, Jalisco, registros parroquiales, 1590-1979, database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:ND1R-5V8 : 28 July 2015), Pedro Nolasco de la Pas, 25 Feb 1810; citing Baptism, Nuestra Señora de los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jalisco, Mexico, parroquias Católicas Jalisco (Catholic Church parishes, Jalisco); FHL microfilm 634,027.

The records states hijo legitimo by mistake. There are no father or paternal grandparents listed.

Not all of the Teocaltiche church records (baptisms and marriages) have been extracted. You can check which ones by looking up Teocaltiche in the Family Search catalog. If these films cover a critical time period in your research you will need to look at these films page by page. They are, however, all online at Family Search.

George Fulton