photos

there are many places on the web where you can do this free. Here is a
site I use: http://www.webshots.com/



sign up for the free not the premium account. You would then either
send the link to your photos to the group or put a link to your photos
in the "links" area of the group. Try it I think you'll like this
service.



here is my site:



http://community.webshots.com/user/joseph27703



joseph



ps: to answer you question directly. Ranchos photo section is full and
we don't use ranchos2 for photos.



lili pinzon wrote:

where may I create a photo album, ranchos  o ranchos 2? Thank you 
Joseph





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1550: Suave!!!

Bravo John!  Very interesting research, so much in
such a short time.  Keep us apprised of what you find on Jose Maria
Gonz de Hermo., and the Gonzales clan.  I've read the same about both towns
claiming him.  There is a book on the subject--I skimmed through it a
while back.  Maybe someone else can remember the book. 
As far as the Vallejo clan & Mariano
Vallejo. ..  Have you been to Sonoma where his family
lived.  You can tour the  Home where the Vallejos lived during
the Bear Flag Rebellion.  The home which is now a museum has a lot of
interesting history on his family.  It is just outside of the town in
Sonoma--just North West of Sacramento.  I seem to recall that his family
came via Guadalajara.  Don't recall where he & his wife Benicia
(the town of Benicia is name after her) were married.  I remember reading
something about his Vallejos being from Guadalajara at their home in
Sonoma.  There is also a group that researches Californio
families.  I've seen it in

Toribio Romo -- Mexico's Ghostly Benefactor of Illegal Aliens!

Santo Toribio has many of the features that are
commonly seen in Romos even of today.  My aunt married a Romo, and many of
my cousins have a striking ressemblance (mostly the beautiful eyes-whether they
be brown/green/blue) to Santo Toribio.  Since they haven't done any
research, I've been trying to figure out any connections for them.  In
doing this, I was able to tie in my dad's side of the family to Santo
Toribio's mother who is NOT a Romo.  This is how I came to "meet" John
G.  I still have more work to do on my Romos & my cousin's.  I
also thought that my Santa Ana Romos would tie into Rincon de Romos.  My
cousins claim that their father often told them they weren't related to the
Romos of Santa Ana--that they were from San Luis Potosi.  I just think that
their features are a bit too much to ignore.  Gotta go and dig some
more....
Emilie, am I understanding that you have Romo too, and that
you tied into the Romos in Rincon de Romos?  Just wondering...  I know
there

"Ranchos Support Fund"

Me too.

Alberto Duarte Prieto
Santa Maria, California
--- Alicia Carrillo  wrote:

> I hope everyone had or is still having a good
> holiday and I too contribute $25.00 to the support
> fund. Just let me know where and when to send it.
>  
> Con mis mejores deseos para todos........Alicia
> Carrillo de San Jose, Ca
> 
> Olivia Jaurequi-Reyes 
> wrote:
> Joseph,
> If all are in agreement I think this is a good idea.
>  You can count me for a $25 pledge.
> 
> Olivia
> So. Calif.
> 
> Joseph Puentes  wrote:For now we
> are over a hundred members strong. I would like to
> run 
> something past you that is open for discussion.
> Would anyone object to 
> having a completely optional "Ranchos Support Fund"?
> 
> I was thinking if a few of us sent in a few buck we
> might be able to 
> have $100 stipends available to send off to members
> that are in need or 
> for projects that are supportive of the Ranchos
> Group. This effort would 
> need a

Toribio Romo -- Mexico's Ghostly Benefactor of Illegal Aliens!

It's called faith and we have it.

Alberto Duarte Prieto
Santa Maria, California

--- Emilie Garcia  wrote:

> 
>
http://www.viewzone.com/gene01.htmlhttp://www.viewzone.com/gene01.html>
> 
> 
> John,
> 
> I had never heard of the saint you are related to,
> so I started browsing the internet for information
> on him, and I found this interesting article (check
> link above).  What was fascinating to me is the
> picture of Toribio Romo.  He bears a striking
> resemblance to my husband, his father, and his
> great-grandmother Marciana Cervantes who was from
> Encarnacion de Diaz in Jalisco and whose ancestors I
> have traced to Rincon de Romos in Aguascalientes
> which is just south of our areas of interest in
> Zacatecas.  
> 
> How lucky you are to have traced your ancestors back
> to 1550; I've been working so hard for over five
> YEARS and have only found our people back to the
> early 1700's. Was Santo Toribio Romo perhaps guiding
> you?  The article goes into a

photos

where may I create a photo album, ranchos  o ranchos 2? Thank you 
Joseph




Toribio Romo -- Mexico's Ghostly Benefactor of Illegal Aliens!

 
 
 
John,
 
I had never heard of the saint you are related to, so I started browsing
the internet for information on him, and I found this interesting article (check
link above).  What was fascinating to me is the picture of Toribio
Romo.  He bears a striking resemblance to my husband, his father, and his
great-grandmother Marciana Cervantes who was from Encarnacion de Diaz in Jalisco
and whose ancestors I have traced to Rincon de Romos in Aguascalientes which is
just south of our areas of interest in Zacatecas. 
 
How lucky you are to have traced your ancestors back to 1550; I've been
working so hard for over five YEARS and have only found our people back to
the early 1700's. Was Santo Toribio Romo perhaps guiding you?  The article
goes into a deep discussion about guardian angels, etc. all the way back in
history even before the Hebrews. 
 
May Santo Toribio help us all in meeting our goals as he has helped others
of our people.
 

Los Cuervos?

Does anyone know where Los Cuervos might be located or might have been located back in the early 1800's? I have a tia who is 83 years old and she was in San Jose this Thanksgiving weekend and mentioned that she had heard that my GGGrandfather Prudencio Olmos had split from the Olmos family back in the early 1800's and that as a result of that split there may have been two separate Olmos families that originated in Los Cuervos. One branch stayed put and the other was established in Nochistlan Zac. but she doesn't know if Los Cuervos is in Jalisco, Zacatecas or Aguascalientes.

Thanks, any help would be appreciated........Alicia Carrillo........San Jose, Ca

 

Jose Luis Vasquez

Joseph,
 
Jose Luis Vasquez de Frias is the gentleman I tried to contact to see if he would be willing to interview for your podcast series. He wrote a book, ''Geneaologia de Nochistlan''. I tried making contact with him via expired e-mail addresses and was un-successful on all attempts.
 
Alicia Carrillo, San Jose, Ca
 

Joseph Puentes wrote:

His name is so right on the end of my memory lobe. . .ah, who is he
again? An Author, que no?

Well here I go getting nosey. . .what are you contacting him for? Well
forget that question. If you do get ahold of him maybe you can mention
to him that I would like to invite him to visit the
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com podcast. Maybe he would consider working
on a submission to the project.

thanks Charles,

joseph

Charles Clark wrote:

>Does anyone know Jose Luis Vasquez y Rodriguez de Frias' current e-mail and
>postal address, and telephone number? Please send. I lost his book and would
>like to replace it.
>
>Sincerely,
>
> 
>



Digest Number 676

Hello Charles,
 
If you make contact with Jose Luis Vasquez via this address, could you please let us know if you did, as I had tried to contact him through various old e-mail addresses he had posted on roots-web and all of them were invalid.
 
Thanks, Alicia Carrillo de San Jose, Ca

readysetgo95814 wrote:

Hi Charles,

This is the e-mail address I have for Jose Luis: 
asturias_vazquez@...

It may or may not be current since I haven't corresponded with him in
a couple of years.

Maria

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Charles Clark" wrote:
>
> Does anyone know Jose Luis Vasquez y Rodriguez de Frias' current e-
mail and
> postal address, and telephone number? Please send. I lost his book
and would
> like to replace it.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Charles Clark
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 5:40 AM
> Subject: [ranchos] Digest Number 676
>
>
>
> There are 15 messages in this issue.
>
>

Jose Luis Vasquez

His name is so right on the end of my memory lobe. . .ah, who is he
again? An Author, que no?


Well here I go getting nosey. . .what are you contacting him for? Well
forget that question. If you do get ahold of him maybe you can mention
to him that I would like to invite him to visit the
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com podcast. Maybe he would consider working
on a submission to the project.


thanks Charles,

joseph

Charles Clark wrote:

Does anyone know Jose Luis Vasquez y Rodriguez de Frias' current e-mail and
postal address, and telephone number? Please send. I lost his book and would
like to replace it.


Sincerely,







Need help with title.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "John Gonzalez" 1gnzlz@v...> wrote:
>
> While digging my roots I came across this: " Br. Pbro. Diego Gonzalez 
> de Hermosillo. "
> 
> I know what Pbro. means: Presbitero. But what is the Br. stands for? 

I believe it refers to a secondary degree, bachiller. For example, see http://
www.musicologiavenezolana.com/bperezr/cuerpo4.htm

I have see this designation often in old records from Mesquitic area.

Ed





Need help with title.

Thank you  Ed for your response to my
question about the meaning of "Br."  Other members of the group have also
come up with the answer, Bachiller.
 
Thanks to all of you.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 11:13
AM
Subject: [ranchos] Re: Need help with
title.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "John
Gonzalez" 1gnzlz@v...>
wrote:
>
> While digging my roots I came across this: " Br. Pbro.
Diego Gonzalez
> de Hermosillo. "
>
> I know what Pbro.
means: Presbitero. But what is the Br. stands for?

I believe it refers
to a secondary degree, bachiller. For example, see http://
www.musicologiavenezolana.com/bperezr/cuerpo4.htm

I
have see this designation often in old records from Mesquitic
area.

Ed





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Digest Number 676

Hi Charles,

This is the e-mail address I have for Jose Luis:  
asturias_vazquez@...

It may or may not be current since I haven't corresponded with him in 
a couple of years.

Maria

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Charles Clark"  wrote:
>
> Does anyone know Jose Luis Vasquez y Rodriguez de Frias' current e-
mail and 
> postal address, and telephone number? Please send. I lost his book 
and would 
> like to replace it.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Charles Clark
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 5:40 AM
> Subject: [ranchos] Digest Number 676
> 
> 
> 
> There are 15 messages in this issue.
> 
> Topics in this digest:
> 
>       1. Need help with title.
>            From: "John Gonzalez" 1gnzlz@v...>
>       2. Re: "Ranchos Support Fund"
>            From: Olivia Jaurequi-Reyes 
>       3. Re: Need help with title.
>            From: "Emilie Garcia"

Gonzalez from Jerez, Zacatecas, WAS Re: [ranchos] Br. Abbreviation.

Dear John,

(I've always wondered what it felt like to write that!:P) My Cenobio was born in Jerez around 1846, and I don't know if he was an only child or youngest or middle or oldest son. I found matrimonial information pertaining to his first marriage in 1864. His first wife was Eleuteria Tovar and she was 15 to his 18 years. They had the following children: Josepha, Candelaria, Jesus, and Herlindo (1878).



My great-grandmother, Francisca Saldivar, was his second wife. With her, he had Paula (1883), Matteo, Jose (1899), Juan, Altagracia (1894), Sarah, and Francisco. Hope we can connect somehow. Marge:)

On Nov 26, 2005, at 10:09 PM, John Gonzalez wrote:


Hi Margarita:

My grandmother was from Jerez and her last name was Gonzalez.  I have not had a chance to start looking in that area yet.  Her name was Apolonia Gonzalez married to Preciliano Cerros.  About 1880...

 

1gnzlz@...

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Digest Number 676

Does anyone know Jose Luis Vasquez y Rodriguez de Frias' current e-mail and
postal address, and telephone number? Please send. I lost his book and would
like to replace it.


Sincerely,

Charles Clark

----- Original Message -----
From:

To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 5:40 AM
Subject: [ranchos] Digest Number 676



There are 15 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

     1. Need help with title.
          From: "John Gonzalez" 1gnzlz@...>
     2. Re: "Ranchos Support Fund"
          From: Olivia Jaurequi-Reyes 
     3. Re: Need help with title.
          From: "Emilie Garcia" 
     4. Re: Need help with title.
          From: "John Gonzalez" 1gnzlz@...>
     5. Re: "Ranchos Support Fund"
          From: Alicia Carrillo 
     6. RE: "Ranchos Support Fund"
          From: "Irma GomezLucero" 
     7. Re: "Ranchos Support Fund"
          From

1550: Suave!!!





John Gonzalez wrote:

I can give a very brief account of
what I've been doing, but I feel that being able to go back  about 455
 years was mostly luck and the fact that my ancestors stayed in the
same town  (Jalostotitlan, Jal.)  for that whole period.  From about
1550 to 1917 , when my Grandfather brought his family to California. 
 
I got started with the family tree
about 5 months ago, not knowing anything at all about findings roots
and doing  research.  I was surfing the internet one day and just
happened to run into the Ranchos web site.  I noticed that the area of
research being done by the group was mainly in Los Altos and
sorrounding areas.  I only had one piece of information when I
 started, and that was that my grandfather was
from Jalisco and that he had been born in 1875.
 
I went to visit a cousin, who is
80 plus years old,  to see if I could get him to tell me something
about the family. I found out that the family was from Jalostotitlan,
and

Gonzalez from Jerez, Zacatecas, WAS Re: [ranchos] Br. Abbreviation.



Hi Margarita:

My grandmother was from Jerez and her last name
was Gonzalez.  I have not had a chance to start looking in that area
yet.  Her name was Apolonia Gonzalez married to Preciliano
Cerros.  About 1880...

 



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Gonzalez from Jerez, Zacatecas, WAS Re: [ranchos] Br. Abbreviation.

Is anyone else besides me descended from Cenobio Gonzalez? His parents are Prudencio Gonzalez and Severiana Salcedo. I'm stuck there, can't find anything about their parents! Any of you Gonzalezes out there connected to them? Help! Marge V:)



On Nov 26, 2005, at 8:43 PM, John Gonzalez wrote:


Thank you for the information Jose.

Have you researched your "GONZALEZ" side of your family yet?

I am a Gonzalez from the "Gonzalez de Hermosillo" from Jalostotitlan, Jalisco.

 

1gnzlz@...

----- Original Message -----

From: José Román González López

To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com

Sent:

Br. Abbreviation.

Thank you for the information Jose.
Have you researched your "GONZALEZ" side of your
family yet?
I am a Gonzalez from the "Gonzalez de Hermosillo"
from Jalostotitlan, Jalisco.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 4:37
PM
Subject: [ranchos] Br.
Abbreviation.

Hi John:
The "Br." abbreviation is meaning to "Bachiller" (Bachelor).
Success!
JRGL.
Mexico City.
 
John Gonzalez wrote:
While digging my roots I came across this: " Br. Pbro. Diego Gonzalez

de Hermosillo. "
I know what Pbro. means: Presbitero. But what is the Br. stands for?
I know it is a religious title.  Is there any member out there that
has
any idea or can suggest a resource to look it up?  Any help will
be
greatly appreciated.  The subject was my gggggg Grandfather from

Jalostotitlan, Jalisco.

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1550: Suave!!!

I can give a very brief account of what I've been
doing, but I feel that being able to go back  about 455  years was
mostly luck and the fact that my ancestors stayed in the same town 
(Jalostotitlan, Jal.)  for that whole period.  From about 1550 to 1917
, when my Grandfather brought his family to California. 
 
I got started with the family tree about 5 months
ago, not knowing anything at all about findings roots and doing 
research.  I was surfing the internet one day and just happened to run into
the Ranchos web site.  I noticed that the area of research being done by
the group was mainly in Los Altos and sorrounding areas.  I only had one
piece of information when I
 started,
and that was that my grandfather was from Jalisco and that he had been born in
1875.
 
I went to visit a cousin, who is 80 plus years
old,  to see if I could get him to tell me something about the family.
I found out that the family was from Jalostotitlan, and that they had come to
California

Br. Abbreviation.

Hi John:
The "Br." abbreviation is meaning to "Bachiller" (Bachelor).
Success!
JRGL.
Mexico City.
 
John Gonzalez wrote:
While digging my roots I came across this: " Br. Pbro. Diego Gonzalez
de Hermosillo. "
I know what Pbro. means: Presbitero. But what is the Br. stands for?
I know it is a religious title.  Is there any member out there that has
any idea or can suggest a resource to look it up?  Any help will be
greatly appreciated.  The subject was my gggggg Grandfather from
Jalostotitlan, Jalisco.


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Questions for Colotlan interview

great questions thanks Ed. . .I'll be using many if not all.



thanks,



joseph







Edward Serros wrote:

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:
  
All the Colotlan and nearby area researchers of this group. Help me come 
up with some interview questions for these Historiadores.

what do you want to know?

joseph


    
 
1. What is the mining history of Colotlan?
2. Were the inhabitants of Colotlan and nearby areas migratory in nature, looking for the 
best jobs they could?
3. Did the Native American Indians of Colotlan survive? Are they still there?
4. Is it true the haciendas turned over every three generations?
5. What percent of the population in the 1700's and 1800's actually lived in the "city", like 
Colotlan vis-á-vis on the small ranches/haciendas?
6. How did Colotlan compare in the 1700's and 1800's to the major cities of Guadalajuara 
and Mexico City?
7. Who were the important figures in Colotlan history, both Spanish and Native

1550: Suave!!!





John Gonzalez wrote:

Br. Pbro. Diego Gonzalez de Hermosillo was
in charge of the Church ( Templo San Jose) in Teocaltiche, Jal.  But my
guess is that he was either a son or a brother of my  ggggg
granfather.  I'll probably find out later.  I am related to Santo
Toribio Romo. Third cousin, once removed.  Have you ever heard of this
Saint?  Santo Toribio Romo was from Santa Ana, Jalisco, just outside of
Jalos.  They have just placed some of his relics in the new (remodeled)
Cathedral in Sacramento!   He is the patron saint of the immigrants.
 
By the way...Last week I was able to trace
my ancestry all the way back to about 1550 !!!

Suave! 1550. . .wow. give us the details. You don't have to tell every
little detail but some of them would be great. Maybe some could pick up
some points in doing their own genealogy research.



. . .and just a thought. I don't believe that you can say you have hit
a wall until you have thoroughly examined all those records you